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3 hours ago, Cantankerish said:

Please let me know if I have achieved the correct angle (or anything else that is wrong).

What do you think?

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How about posting a video of you doing the driveway sticks drill from the video I gave you as a Christmas present last year? 🙂

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2 hours ago, iacas said:

What do you think?

 

How about posting a video of you doing the driveway sticks drill from the video I gave you as a Christmas present last year? 🙂

I think I wasted a little of your time and a lot of mine.  I can not get my body to bend over more.  I will have to try the stick and hope it teaches me.

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5 minutes ago, Cantankerish said:

I can not get my body to bend over more.

Unless you have a physical limitation I can’t see how this is true. What you need to do is train yourself to do the movement differently.

Do you record yourself when practicing or do mirror work at home?

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12 minutes ago, Cantankerish said:

I can not get my body to bend over more.

I don't believe that's true. I mean, maybe, but highly, highly unlikely.

What you can't do right now is "bend over more while making a full-speed golf swing and hitting a ball."

So don't do that. Because you can't. You're practicing failure.

Practice success:

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On 6/6/2020 at 7:05 PM, billchao said:

Unless you have a physical limitation I can’t see how this is true. What you need to do is train yourself to do the movement differently.

Do you record yourself when practicing or do mirror work at home?

 I have never practiced in front of a mirror.  Do you do this?  Is it common (useful) practice?

My bigger question Is one of spacing.  After experimenting with trying to bend over more, I am stuck in an issue.  Not a physical one.  Does one accomplish more bent over by curling the back or by moving the feet further from the ball?

 

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@iacas can correct me if I'm wrong, but maybe you want bend more from the hips and not as much from the waist. If you can lower yourself butt-first in a low chair, you can do this.

 

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16 minutes ago, Cantankerish said:

I have never practiced in front of a mirror.  Do you do this?  Is it common (useful) practice?

Absolutely.

16 minutes ago, Cantankerish said:

My bigger question Is one of spacing.  After experimenting with trying to bend over more, I am stuck in an issue.  Not a physical one.  Does one accomplish more bent over by curling the back or by moving the feet further from the ball?

No, you're far enough from the ball.

Dude, just do the "driveway sticks" thing. Or Day 2. Film it. Post it here from FO and DL angles.

And let's be clear about something: it's not about bending forward at setup. It's about bending leftward more during the backswing, about staying in your "inclination" to the ground.

@Cantankerish, make today the day you commit to a positive, real change. Film your work in a mirror. CHANGE this picture:

On 6/6/2020 at 4:41 PM, iacas said:

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How about posting a video of you doing the driveway sticks drill from the video I gave you as a Christmas present last year? 🙂

 

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18 minutes ago, Cantankerish said:

I have never practiced in front of a mirror.  Do you do this?

Do bears shit in the woods? ;-)

18 minutes ago, Cantankerish said:

Is it common (useful) practice?

Feel ain't real. If you're working on a swing change you need to observe if your feels are producing results. Sometimes a feel for me will work for a while and then produce different results at a later time so I'll adjust.

20 minutes ago, Cantankerish said:

After experimenting with trying to bend over more

I haven't been following your swing, but why are you doing this? I thought your issue at the moment is a flat shoulder turn?

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9 minutes ago, billchao said:

I haven't been following your swing, but why are you doing this? I thought your issue at the moment is a flat shoulder turn?

He could just be saying it wrong, but yes, it's maintaining his inclination to the ball. His setup is decent, and then he turns very, very flat.

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Can we see the video?

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17 minutes ago, Cantankerish said:

I am struggling to get my torso to do these things.

I'm not sure what that means. You did them. You did them at a very fast rate of speed (I'd do them much more slowly).

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Is the form reasonably correct?

I felt that I had to lower my head to get my hands in the correct spot on the shoulder one, and that even then I am still not doing it right.

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1 hour ago, Cantankerish said:

Is the form reasonably correct?

I felt that I had to lower my head to get my hands in the correct spot on the shoulder one, and that even then I am still not doing it right.

Your head doesn't go down much.

And, again, do it MUCH slower. And let your hands go above your nipples, man.

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19 hours ago, Cantankerish said:

I made some videos.

 

 

 

 


These are after practicing some with each.  I am struggling to get my torso to do these things.

I do the stick drill as a warm up before each practice and round. I do both directions and do it a bit slower and hold the finish to stretch my torso. You did it fine, but try and slow it down with a three count during the turn.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Been practicing...

Question: The way I come square while maintaining proper inclination results in quite a bit of extra torso-ahead-of-the-hands motion.  My guess is that this is a good thing.  But two things are happening that concern me:

1. I feel that my swing is kinda wild.  I am whipping around so much with my arms so loose that I occasionally have crappy contact.

2. There is a considerable fade worked into my swing where it used to be a draw.  I prefer not to have this.

 

Are these natural side effects of learning this movement that I can later work out?

I'm going to try to take some videos this weekend.

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25 minutes ago, Cantankerish said:

I'm going to try to take some videos this weekend.

Feel ain't real. Videos will help.

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