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  1. This is a bit of a "put up or shut up" kind of forum. In that spirit, I'd suggest that, if you care to be taken seriously, you find some way of supporting your claims. Perhaps some Game Golf or Arcos data showing real-life distances. Perhaps some Trackman records. Better still, post a video of yourself in the Member Swings area. Until then, you'll continue to look like a typical troll.
  2. No sense in delaying… let's get right into it! Kickstarter of the Year These members started the topics that had the most posts throughout 2017. I did not count any topics started by myself (like some major championship topics, or "What'd you shoot today?," and I didn't consider wildly off-topic (non-golf) threads, either. These topics that survived and came out on top saw a lot of great discussion. KOTY #3: TST's Bronze Kickstarter of the Year is… @Wally Fairway, for starting a thread about the British Open. Tiger held the lead at one point, standing on the 10th tee, before making a double and a bogey and falling to the very, very steady Francesco Molinari. KOTY #2: TST's Silver Kickstarter of the Year is… @Valleygolfer, for starting what would ultimately become the Tiger Woods Catch-All Discussion topic. Yes, the topic still dates back to 2014, but it received the second-most posts in 2018 from a non-staff-member-started topic. This marks the third straight year this topic has finished second. This year this is somewhat surprising… seeing as how Tiger came back and even WON an event this year! KOTY #1: TST's Gold Kickstarter of the Year is… @lastings somehow managed to post a topic that wasn't entirely Tiger-centric, and yet which received the most posts in 2018*. Granted, Tiger played in the Ryder Cup, winning one point, which was nowhere near enough to help the U.S. squad win on European soil. Maybe in 2022… :sigh: * The most posts were actually in topics 96205 (5 Minutes Daily Practice), 96860 (Masters Discussion Topic), 2203 (Jack vs. Tiger for GOAT), 97462 (U.S. Open Discussion), but those were started by staff or members who have not visited in quite some time. Rookie of the Year These members joined the site within the last month of 2017 or any time in 2018 and amassed the most reputation points while remaining in good standing throughout the year (only points earned in 2018 count). Just as you'd expect, of course! These members have a bright future ahead of themselves! Note: winning Rookie of the Year does not preclude you from also winning Member of the Year awards. It'd be like a rookie in a major sport also winning the MVP - it can happen. It just didn't happen this year… 😄 ROTY #3: TST's Bronze Rookie of the Year is… With 48 reputation points… @ChetlovesMer! Chet joined TST at the late date of August 21, 2018! ROTY #2: TST's Silver Rookie of the Year is… With a grand total of 122 points, and having joined us early in 2018, on January 29… @GrandStranded! ROTY #1: TST's Gold Rookie of the Year is… With a whopping 131 reputation votes in total, a member who joined the TST community on the very last day of 2017 (December 31), and a guy whose username I don't even try to pronounce… @HJJ003! Congratulations! Now, it's on to the big one. The one we've all been waiting for. The… Member of the Year These members are the best of the best. They amassed the most reputation points during the calendar year 2016, and remained in good standing throughout the year. Their peers - you guys and gals - felt their posts were worthy of the most thanks, skins, fist bumps, high fives, or reputation, whatever you want to call it. These are the elite. The people who make insightful posts that help further the discussion… even if you disagree with them occasionally. Or frequently. Reminder: staff (me, @nevets88, @billchao, @NCGolfer, @boogielicious, @tristanhilton85, @mchepp, @georgep, @Pretzel, @Shindig, @mvmac, @RandallT, in no particular order) are ineligible for yearly awards, or we would have taken home some hardware here. But, moderating you fine folks is prize enough, and we thank you for your contributions to our community here! Without further ado… MOTY #3: TST's Bronze Member of the Year is… This member has a current content count of 3,896 and joined the site on January 14, 2015. He plays about as much golf as anyone here despite having a mostly full-time job, a wife, and enjoying traveling and meeting up with people. He's a two-time Newport Cup participant, and he's made the most of his 3900 posts, and rarely posts something which doesn't stop to make people think, whether you agree or disagree with him. He's been a single digit golfer for a while now, and racked up 220 reputation points during 2018… our bronze award winning Member of the Year is @DaveP043! MOTY #2: TST's Silver Member of the Year is… This member joined on May 29, 2014. He does things his own way, which is fine, and doesn't really get into the instructional conversations too often except to occasionally offer some of his own experiential advice. He plays to about a 15 index, and doesn't take this site (or golf) too seriously, because he realizes that at some level, golf is just a silly game. With 4,853 posts, and 270 reputation points earned in 2018 alone, the silver Member of the Year for 2018 is… @Patch! MOTY #1: TST's Gold Member of the Year is… Now it's time for the big cheese. When this member isn't shanking the ball (or complaining about shanking the ball), he posts on TST with a little bit of attitude, which is fine. He's passionate about his golf, and he's a lifelong student of the game. He's bald, he joined the site one day after my birthday on March 24, 2014, and he's amassed 3,240 posts in his time here at TST. In 2018, this member blew away earned 0.833 points per day (for a total of 304 points). The best of the best of the best, the Brooks Koepka (?) of TST for 2018, the cream of the crop… @Vinsk!
  3. iacas

    Speed from the Arms in the Golf Swing

    Oh for goodness sake. You can't swing 140 MPH without using your muscles, without feeling a ton of force and speed and torque and expending energy. Please find the part where I said anything like "tension creates speed." I'll save you the time, because I haven't. I'll also save us the time, because you cannot show the physics here. And actually, now that I think about it, there are times when tension can create speed. The stretch-shorten cycle creates tension in your body, and the undoing of that tension creates speed. So, there's an example. C'mon, you're out of your depth here. I've disagreed with two statements you've made: Anyone "feeling tension" is doing it badly. The body naturally adjusts to things. I believe both of those are incorrect at least a good chunk of the time. Others have told you the same thing. That's it. If you want to keep reading into things that were not said, or putting words in the mouths of others, go ahead. It doesn't fly, though. 🤦‍♂️ Feel ain't real. Jack is one guy. Other guys will tell you they're expending a bunch of energy as they can to generate speed. They're not feeling "loose." They might even say they're creating tension. Heck, some guys used to feel that they were resisting with their lower body - creating tension between their upper and lower bodies - to create speed. If you don't think that Cameron Champ, Dustin Johnson, etc. could hang with Jack, I don't know what to tell you. Jack occasionally hit a 350-yard drive, but he spent most of his career popping them out there 265 to 280. His average was 269 the first year they measured these things (he was 40, he had persimmon and balata, etc.). Dustin Johnson also hit Jack's 1-iron 290. The Cherry Hills thing was a lark - they were given a swing or two and did it for the heck of it.
  4. I've tested over a hundred people. Almost none of them could point the line inside the hole from 12-15 feet. Hence, the line actually impairs your ability to aim, or doesn't help you at all. I just use the white part of the ball.
  5. Asheville

    USGA/R&A Finalize 2019 Rules of Golf

    #3 is seriously incorrect. Free relief for an embedded ball is not permitted in a bunker or a penalty area. #9 is somewhat misleading. You may not touch the sand immediately behind or in front of the ball. #11 is incomplete. That refers only to relief for an unplayable lie in a bunker, #18 should, for most of of us who play without caddies, say that partners are not allowed to help us line up. I doubt, despite the logos across the top, that this is a R&A/USGA document.
  6. mvmac

    Importance of Strike on Distance

    Yes he is. If we went to the range (even after his 85) you would still be able to tell who was the pro and who was the +3. I don't know what player or what tournament you're referring to but his ball-striking is what got him to a level of playing golf for a living and good enough to be featured on TV (I'm assuming). I have no chance of ever doing that. Correct on both accounts. They are the best in the world and not every shot they hit is their best. They might hit one or two good shots a round but those "misses" are still better strikes than the vast majority of golfers in the world. I've seen tour players hit horrible shots that I would be pissed or embarrassed at, but it's very rare. Most of the time it's pretty darn solid, otherwise they couldn't play for a living. A tour pro's "scrape it around" looks very differently than my scrape it around. It's also a reason they hit the ball as far as they do (trying to get it back on topic). I agree they aren't gods, for the most part they are just regular guys who are very skilled at hitting a white ball. 2015 was Fisher's worst scoring year in the PGA Tour (I just went back to '10) and he averaged 72.121. You have to hit the ball very well to do that.
  7. Piz

    Golf Philosophy… Which One for You?

    Philosophy Three: You don't care where anyone else plays from or what clubs they hit. You face each shot with every intention of playing it exactly as you imagine. And you maintain that attitude no matter what happens. Happy Holidays everybody...keep hitting the ball.
  8. Every now and then, someone comes onto the forum with a grand idea about how "natural" the golf swing should be, about how "modern instruction is too technical," and about how they, despite rarely having broken 90 and having taken a few lessons and having seen a few YouTube videos, have the solution for what ails all golfers across the land. In this topic, I'd like to quickly tackle a few of the arguments that are commonly lobbed out there by these types of people. These comments are often made as if they're self evident, and obvious, when in reality they're just based on a hunch and a tiny dash of personal experiences. These comments are also often made by someone who has had limited success in the game, in part because — I believe — that the work it takes to get down to a low single digit handicap, for example, tends to make one very aware of just what is actually required. Note: I'm one of the first guys to tell you that I think most instructors aren't very good. And I have reason to dislike those guys more than most, because they actually make it more difficult for me to do well in my instruction business. If the perception is that instruction is bad (because it is), then that de-motivates people to seek out good instruction. It's a bit of a sinking tide lowers all ships sort of deal. What's the reputation of used car salesmen? Poor, right? I imagine nobody hates that reputation more than the good used car salesmen out there, as they have to work harder to overcome their perception of their peers as well as the normal things that come up in selling a car. In no particular order, then, here are some pins and my short (for me) responses knocking them down. Golfers Should be Taught the Basics and then Left Alone to Do What is Natural There's nothing natural about the golf swing. It's not even a move we've developed via evolution as a necessary hunting/gathering/whatever type move, like throwing or hitting something might be. Fewer than 20% of golfers ever get instruction, so most of what you see on the golf course is people trying to do what is "natural" to them. How's that working out for them? Not very well - most people's "natural" golf swing is a train wreck, and the reason why they can't break 100 very often. As humans, I'm not going to argue that we don't have some sort of natural hand-eye coordination. We do, to varying degrees. But golf is a whole new world of precision and speed with very little margin of error. So, yes, with a little practice the average human can get pretty good at making contact with a ball nearly every time they swing a club… but that motion, what they come up with "naturally," will often not be very good at all for playing golf. No Other Sport is as Technical as Golf Instruction Two quick things to say to this: Other sports are easier. I played soccer for a long time, and a bit of hockey. Skating isn't all that complex. Even puck-handling and shooting isn't all that complex. You can say things like "you roll your wrists like this, drag the puck like this, and then flick like this" or whatever, and that's - at most levels - about as complex and difficult as it gets. Golf is much more difficult than virtually any other sport - nearly every muscle in your body is involved in the thing, we have to hit shots accurately with the longest implements swung about as fast as anything else, our margin of error is ridiculously small (a putt from 3' with dead weight misses the hole entirely if it's not within 4° of accurate… and that's a three footer… have the wrong clubface angle on a driver by 3° and, hooo boy!). Anyway… golf is freaking difficult. Other sports, at the higher levels, are also incredibly technical, making the statement above in red a lie. Pitching coaches have all sorts of video and 3D motion capture devices. They analyze all kinds of things. Do we do this in Little League? They often aren't all that "technical" at the early stages, but things can ramp up for the better players. Some pitching camps and clinics will expose younger kids to this stuff. Every sport has things to gain from using science and technology, and the higher level you get. Other sports are incredibly technical. If you consider Formula 1 or NASCAR a sport, those sports are incredibly technical. Everyone is a Feel Player and Modern Instruction is Too Technical I agree that everyone is a feel player, and that giving a player too much technical "stuff" is bad, but that's inherent in how I stated it: "too much." Nobody would argue that giving the student "just the right amount" of technical "stuff" is bad, because again it's inherent in how I wrote it: "just the right amount." Some take this even further, and say things like "any technical information is too much," as if telling someone some basic technical thing is going to short circuit their brains and lead them to a complete inability to function. The truth is, mechanics are how you hit the golf ball. Someone who has the clubhead 18" outside their hands at A6 DL has bad mechanics, and those need to improve for them to be a better golfer. I see my job as an instructor to focus the student on the mechanics they need to improve (their "priority piece"), and then I use feels to get them to change those mechanics. The hypothetical student swinging across the ball here would understand that we generally want the clubhead somewhere inline with the hands at A6 DL, but feels are how we'd get there. Feels, drills (drills are just motions or exercises that help encourage the new mechanics to feel more normal and repeatable at higher and higher speeds), and other tools are what allow the students to change the thing, and if they understand the basic mechanics, they'll have a better chance of continuing to practice on their own properly. When students leave my lesson, they should understand the hows, whats, whens, and whys of their lesson: what the priority piece is, why it's important, when it occurs in the swing, and how to go about improving it. But the last thing is almost always feels and drills to enhance/encourage those feels. If the Instructor Talks about Mechanics, the Player Will Only Think About Mechanics This one comes about because sometimes people don't give enough credit to other people. If I tell a student "Okay, from the top what you're going to see is your hands shifting out, the club shaft steepening, and kicking out to here at A6 where it's 18 inches outside of your hands. This is why your good shots are big pulls and your bad shots are slices and wipey cuts" that doesn't mean the student is going to be thinking about "okay, my hands need to do such and such, my shaft needs to do this and that, and at this point, I want to have the clubhead and my hands at this point in space…" They might think that if you stopped the lesson there, but that's literally ten seconds of a lesson, and the next thirty plus minutes is often you working with the student to find the feelings, drills, etc. that help them improve those mechanics. If the student feels like his hands travel down toward his right pocket from the top of the backswing to fix the issue, then that is what the student leaves with, as well as an understanding of the what, when, why, and how… My students aren't thinking about mechanics. They know the mechanical change we're trying to make, yes. But I give people the credit they deserve: they can understand what mechanical change we're trying to make, and even why, while still being able to process, understand, and remember HOW they should go about making that change. Instructors who Draw Lines on Video Only Care about Positions, but the Golf Swing is a Dynamic Moving Thing High speed video is like having super-human vision. I say that a lot, because it's true. I wrote a lot more about this one here, but in short… the "positions" in the golf swing are merely "checkpoints" through which we pass through while making a dynamic motion. So that golfer with the clubhead 18" outside his hands at A6 DL that I've used a few times… on camera, he wants to start seeing the clubhead lining up closer to the hands. But he can't get there just by kind of posing it there, he has to get there dynamically, by finding the feeling that lets the clubhead pass through that "checkpoint" dynamically. At the end of the day, too, the camera often becomes more for the student than the instructor. The student can see that "wow, I did it!" They can try a feeling and see what happened in reality. They can experiment with how much of a feeling is needed to get something to pass through the "checkpoint." And they can use the photos the instructor makes and the notes they write down for them to continue guiding them as they practice. An Instructor with Lots of Gadgets is Obviously Too Technical Gadgets — launch monitors, high-speed video, pressure plates, SAM PuttLab, FocusBand, training aids, GEARS, etc. K-Vest… etc. — are tools. The good golf instructors I know have a lot of tools at their disposal. Just because they have every tool available to them doesn't mean they use them in every lesson. High-Speed video, for example, is like super-human vision. The golf swing happens too fast to see little pieces, and yet given the margins of error we have in the golf swing, we sometimes need to see those little pieces. And… I don't believe for one second that some of the famous instructors that pre-dated technological advances would have continued to teach the way they taught before. Ben Hogan would have been one of the first people to buy a FlightScope or Trackman, I think. The old instructors would have loved using high-speed video. Technology would have expanded their tool box, and they'd be foolish not to give themselves more options. As the saying goes, when you only have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. But when you have a full toolbox, you can fix all kinds of things, even if you don't use every tool in your toolbox on every job. Golf Instruction is One Size Fits All and Does Not Adapt to the Student / Golf Instructors Have Only One Method and Everyone Fits that Model I've heard some people say that some golf instructors teach one thing to everyone. I think every instructor tends to have things they prefer, or like, but the best instructors are incredibly flexible. For example, I "prefer" something closer to a one-plane swing… but I have a number of students with Justin Thomas style backswings, very high hands, very two-plane-swing type motions. My only real constraints are working within the 5 Simple Keys®, and I'm always working toward improving one of those in the full swing. My instruction, and the instruction of good instructors I know, is highly personalized, and that doesn't just mean what they're actually told to do and fix and change in their golf swing. Some students aren't going to visit the range very much, so they're given lessons which focus on things they can do at home for 5-10 minutes per day. Vice versa for someone who I see 3-5x a week hitting balls 20 feet from me at Golf Evolution - they might get more drills you can do while hitting balls. Some students are able to "buy in" more if they understand some of the little details of what they're doing. Other people just have complete faith in you and are confused by or don't want to hear anything except what they're supposed to be doing. They don't even want to know why; your word is good enough. Some students learn by observing. Some like external cues, others internal more. Some like auditory assistance. People learn differently, and while you won't always get this perfect, good instructors try to notice those things and tailor everything they do and say to fit that person's mentality. Heck, one of my students loves to shoot the breeze, and get his little priority piece in about ten minutes, hit balls for five more minutes, and then shoot the breeze for a bit more. Then he goes off and works on what he was given, occasionally sends me a text with a follow-up question. He was a 22 three years ago. He's a 4 now. Getting to know your golfer, your student, is important, and while poor golf instruction might be one size fits all, good instruction is not. Golf Instructors Tear Down Your Swing before Building it Back Up Again This almost never happens, and when it does, odds are high that the instructor is horrible, lazy, or at best unimaginative. I've never actually heard a golf instructor say this to a student, and I've sure as heck never said it to a student. Golfers come capable of breaking 100, or 90, or 80… or whatever. They come with skills. What good instructors do is correct the priority piece at the moment, leaving everything else the golfer is doing well already alone. Oftentimes, fixing one thing improves several other things, too. I had a mother of a golfer — a girl, not a great swing, but she can sometimes shoot in the 80s, and other times barely breaks 100 — tell me that she didn't want to get instruction for her daughter because "she has a unique way of doing it and she doesn't have time to start over from the ground up and rebuild her swing as she's already a sophomore." Uhhhh… right. So just because the perception is out there, and because a few instructors might actually take this approach (e gads!), it doesn't mean it's valid or widely done. Let me put it another way… an instructor who wants to "rebuild" is telling you that they're incapable of working with the skills that you have now, and that he is only capable of teaching you how to play golf if you swing one way the entire time. He's saying that he's incapable of finding and fixing a priority piece while using the skills you already have. It's an utterly ridiculous way to approach instruction. The cynic in me thinks that anyone who says this is basically trying to lock you up for a bunch of lessons. After all, you can't "rebuild a swing from the ground up" in only two or three lessons. Comparing Someone to a PGA Tour Player is Pointless Because Golfers Aren't Built Like PGA Tour Players Golfers are built like PGA Tour players. Like PGA Tour players, they have two arms, two legs, a head, fingers, hips, and all sorts of body parts in common. They're also using similar tools — clubs, balls, etc. — and trying to perform a very similar task. Instructors often use a PGA Tour player to show something being done correctly. For example, if someone doesn't transfer their weight/pressure to their front foot, I might show them a PGA Tour player doing this, so that the person a) understands that it can be done, b) starts to realize that it probably should be done, and c) has a glimpse into how it's done or what it looks like. Then, I work with that student on feels that produce better mechanics - squishing a foam ball under their lead foot, bumping the fridge door closed from the top of the backswing, letting the hips coast downhill, etc. Average golfers may not be able to swing like a PGA Tour player, but they can certainly improve at one of the 5 Simple Keys®, the commonalities found in all great players, and comparing a golfer to a PGA Tour player can often be illuminating for the student. Plus, as the student begins to have success improving her mechanics, she'll often be thrilled to see you comparing her swing to a successful golfer and happy to see that, at least in the piece you're working on, she "looks like an LPGA Tour player" (or whomever). No, we don't show an 85-year-old guy the golf swing of Justin Thomas and say "we want you to swing like that" and leave it at that. But if JT does some small piece that the golfer in front of you can do, the comparison may be perfectly valid. I Saw a Video Online and it was Bad, So Lessons are Bad Videos online are often NOT lessons. Even videos of private lessons are often not the same as a true private lesson, because the instructor is often talking to the audience behind the camera as well as the student in front of him. Online lessons often focus more on mechanics than "feels," but that's almost bound to happen when you do not have a student right there in front of you. Videos try to give generalized instruction, and because everyone's feels may vary, they almost have to focus on the mechanics, trusting players to do the mechanics themselves and to find their own feels. Outside of saying "students often tell me they feel like X, Y, or Z when they do this move," videos can't really get into feels much, because two people given the same feels might produce very, very different mechanics, and both could be "wrong," but they'd feel like they did what you asked (and they're being honest, because they did the "feel" they were told to feel) and consider the video and the instructor in it to have failed. If You're Not Hitting it Better at the End of the Lesson, It's a Bad Lesson If this one said "you should know how to hit the ball better at the end of the lesson," then cool. But no, not every golfer is going to be hitting the ball better at the end of every lesson. You want to know a sure-fire way to hit the ball better at the end of a lesson? Do nothing. Just have your student hit 7-irons for 35 minutes or so. By gosh, they'll get in a bit of a groove and be hitting the ball better at the end — hey, why wouldn't they, they've been hitting a 7-iron for 35 minutes straight — than they were at the beginning. That's not a lesson. There are a ton of lessons where the student will need to work on something for a few days, weeks, even months after the lesson. They may be slightly worse for a time, and then as they begin to get better and better at the new skill, meet and then surpass their previous performance level. Golf is hard®, and changes take time to incorporate at full speed. If you insist on hitting the ball better at the end of the lesson, on being literally a better golfer at the end of a lesson, right at that moment… then you're likely only looking for band-aid type lessons. Quick fixes. The thing is, those types of lessons often don't last. There are occasions when they do, but true, lasting changes often take time. Changelog: Version 1.0 - 2018-12-18 - Initial Draft. Version 1.0.1 - 2018-12-27 - Added an image so that embedding this topic elsewhere will use that image. I plan for this to be a living, breathing document of sorts, and I'll add things here and there, revise the wording, etc. as time goes on. Changes for more than grammar/spelling/clarification I will try to note in the changelog.
  9. 3 points
    I have found getting used to the new Rules of Golf to be a bit of a challenge. In time there is no doubt the revisions will become part of my golf process. A number of the changes, however, are not reflexive and I have to consciously think about them. The easiest new rule to re-learn is having the option to leave the flag in or take it out. Since December I have been playing with the flag stick in. After six rounds, it still looks odd putting from 20 feet or less with the flag in the hole. In casual play I have often left the flag in for long putts but it is reflex to take the flag out on shorter ones. Over time I am confident the presence of the flag will fade into the background but currently it is a distraction. Dropping from knee height is another one on which I need to re-educate myself. I took a few drops this past weekend (casual water) and I dropped from shoulder height without thinking. At least the USGA/R&A left the measurement for determining the area of relief as a “club length” rather than an inch/centimeter measurement. Removing loose impediments in bunkers and grounding my club in “penalty areas”, among other new allowances, will just take some practice. At least there is no penalty for not doing either of those things. Time will tell whether fixing damage to the green becomes a pace of play issue. I have no problem adding careless player’s scuff marks and deer tracks to things we can fix. I have never been meticulous in manicuring the line of my putt but some of my fellow players are. Players slowing to a glacial pace on the green has been an issue with our tournaments. We may need to hand out some pace-of-play penalties early in the season to make a point. 2019 will be my chance to prove that one can teach an old dog new tricks.
  10. jsgolfer

    What'd You Shoot Today?

    @kpaulhus and I on the course. Wish our scores would’ve been a little better. 44-40-84 mission Inn Las Colinas too many bad shots today. But loads of fun!
  11. cindysbike

    I Saw a Woman Playing Alone

    I'm an older gal, new to the game, and really enjoy playing as a single. There's only so much you can learn with an instructor or at the driving range. There comes a time when you have to put it all together play an actual course. Since I'm still a "newbie", I'm very self-conscious about my play and prefer not to inflict my gaffes onto others. I enjoy walking the course and make sure that I don't slow down others that are playing behind me. So, if you see me out there, give a smile and a wave, I'm really not an illusion!
  12. iacas

    My Swing (iacas)

    So, I thought of making this a long post, but in the end, it's going to be a lot shorter than I had originally planned. I worked hard all of last winter, and was doing really well early in the spring. Then I hurt my ankle in soccer, and had a hard time playing for awhile. Then I hurt my groin, and likewise had a hard time playing. So that kinda sucked, because in the spring I was doing really, really well. Golf felt "easy." For like two or three weeks. 😛 Fast forward to the winter now, where things have settled down and I've gotten back to starting to do this work hard core. I worked hard for about three weeks, and shared a video or two with Mike. And this is where I'd like to thank @mvmac for getting my head out of my ass. I spent those three weeks working so hard on what my arms, right elbow, wrists, etc. were doing, that I'd gotten into a bit of a clusterf*** below the belly button. I focused so hard on what everything above my belt was doing that my lower body was just kind of doing very little. When my lower body does "very little," it stays in place. My left knee doesn't move, my upper weight stays forward* * In the A1 picture at left above this is actually closer to A1.1. I sometimes get into a little habit of a little sway back to start the swing and then I "rebound" forward a little. Kinda like the opposite of Gary Player's forward press to start his backswing. I'll sway back an inch or two and then "rebound" by turning forward a bit. Normal setup for me is about 55-60% forward. At any rate, even doing that crap, I could play golf because I have Keys 1 (pretty well), 2, 3, 4 "okay", and 5 really well: So, I could still play golf pretty well. Anyway, Mike reminded me of a little bit. Which got me the next day (yeah, again, I'm wearing the same clothes, because I'd literally worn them for about 90 minutes the day before): Some key points there are that the tilt is better, the left knee is allowed to move a little bit, and the left shoulder moves not only down but back. This will eventually provide just a hair more room for the right elbow to work, because even though it lines up pretty well at A6 (right, below), how it gets there is "blech": That's from this: The elbow and wrist load a little too late and, honestly, run on a little too far, and then when the torso starts down ever so slightly before the arms, the shaft gets that tiny bit across and steep coming down. I have the fix for this. It's not "easy" per se, but it is simple, specific, etc. I can have success doing this. Basically: Elbow/wrist a bit sooner. Arms maintain width so they stop a bit shorter (left arm not quite as close to the chest) Start down (feeling) with a right elbow move, not the torso. That's just a slightly bigger version of the animated GIF. Thanks @mvmac.
  13. DaveP043

    USGA/R&A Finalize 2019 Rules of Golf

    Just to answer your first question: That's from 14-3.b(3).
  14. iacas

    Tiger Woods Master Catch-All Discussion

    HEEEE’S BACK! Tiger Woods’ former coaches think a major is now realistic - Golf Digest His former teachers have watched from afar over the last year . . . and they all like what they see
  15. Oh yeah?! Well I'm 5'1", 85lbs, 65 years old, am so inflexible I can't even touch my knees, much less my toes, 1-rep max bench press even 30 years ago was 25lbs, have TWO bulging discs plus a left shoulder that barely stays in the socket at rest from so many dislocations, and nerve damage that limits movement on my whole right side. But apparently I understand the grip and the swing better than you, because I've driven a 390 yard par 4 and average 320 yard carry!
  16. mvmac

    My Swing (mvmac)

    Some 2018 stats: 133 posted rounds Index beginning of the year was .7, ended the year +2.1, lowest during the year was +3.1 72.3 scoring average Highest round 79 Lowest round 63 (home course) 47 rounds under par 17 rounds in the 60's (16 at my home course, one at TPC Summerlin) Frustrating year for tournament golf, scored horribly for how I hit it. Not winning the club championship still hurts. Ended the year on a positive note with an under par qualifying round and was +1 for two days at the event on a tough, windy course. Mechanics wise I feel I've made some nice improvements. Speed is faster than last year, I like my feels/cues for the swing, think I condensed some feels and made it more simple. Just keep moving things in the same direction. Keep things as athletic or dynamic as possible, good rotation with the trunk, better pressure sequence and create more separation with the ribs and shoulders in transition. Goal for the next year is to get the swing speed averaging 115, have more rounds under par than over at my home course and have multiple tournament rounds under par (I'll post in the 2019 thread later). Some recent practice. Smashed it in the caddy view swing, 180 yard 7-iron With putting, ball feeling middle of the stance, shoulders level, stroke is right hand/arm focused. Elbows less flared out during the stroke and follow though.
  17. rustbelt

    Hickory Golf

    Been doing some reading into the hickory golf scene, sounds like fun. Picked up this Otey Crisman 18HB Mallet putter, solid & straight with pretty good leather grip at a local second hand sports shop for $12 after their 20% golf equip discount for the season. Might just be the start of a 6 club hickory set. To ChetlovesMer, that picture of you and your Dad dressed up for the Hickory Tournament is priceless !!!!
  18. iacas

    Tiger Woods Master Catch-All Discussion

    Undercover Tour Pro: Is There A New Tiger Versus An Old Tiger? - Golf Digest This past season much was made about Tiger Woods being a changed person. Friendlier... Tiger haters won’t want to read that. Says what I have always said: Tiger (and Vijay) are well liked by their peers.
  19. iacas

    Importance of Strike on Distance

    You're not giving anyone here enough credit. I don't care if you're standing between Tommy Gainey, Jim Furyk, and Eamonn Darcy in his prime… people are going to very quickly identify you as the five handicapper. Nobody has said that, IIRC. Or is it that people "jump all over" those with a wrong view on things? Dude, if you put you on the range with PGA Tour players, even someone who doesn't know a bunch about golf is going to identify you as the five handicapper pretty quickly. If you put the guy with whom I work, Dave Wedzik, on the range with PGA Tour players, decent golfers would quickly figure out which one is the former Tour pro. That's in his words. Or… maybe people just all think you're wrong. Nobody's said anything that contradicts anything there. No. Nobody's acting like that. You apparently think that everyone judges a swing by how it looks, when nobody's really said anything like that. Once again… a 5 handicap is miles from a Tour player. Miles. @mvmac would have to give you three a side, and a Tour player plays at his course… Xander Schauffele. He would't compare himself, six shots better than you at your best, to a Tour player. But you are… I have. I talk about sound all the time, especially on specialty shots. I doubt that even your great strikes sound the same because of your ball position, never mind that you're going to have far, far, far fewer of those great strikes. It's off topic for this discussion, but I don't understand how you and @Faksakes act like your years playing righty have no impact of influence on your ability to do it lefty. Here's the part you seem to be missing… nobody really disagrees with that. Striking the ball solidly is very, very important. It's only when you go off the rails with this "a 5 handicapper is very near to a Tour player" that you lose people. And rightfully so.
  20. mvmac

    The Not Tour Player Swing Videos Thread

    My new swing model 😀 To me it's closer to Bubba's swing than Furyk. Furyk takes the hands a lot more, has more radial and doesn't turn his hips much. Wolff and Bubba don't set the wrists until late backswing, turn their hips, allow the lead heel to raise and "fly" the lead foot on the downswing. They also both bomb it.
  21. mvmac

    How to Make a Centered Hip Turn

    Always enjoy it when I hear a mechanics piece described in a new or different way. Good visual for the pivot from a great coach/instructor who happens to teach at my club.
  22. iacas

    USGA/R&A Finalize 2019 Rules of Golf

    I hope everyone here who is interested in this reads (and subscribes to via the free email thing) RulesGeeks.com.
  23. billchao

    My Swing (nevets88)

    You've been away too long @JetFan1983. If @nevets88 quit his job, in four months he might only get two rounds of golf in. Because winter 😜
  24. dennyjones

    Tee or No Tee?

    I always use a tee when appropriate. I found this on the web: Hitting from a tee gives around 3 yards extra distance and so some pros prefer not to add the extra variabile of a tee when they know their yardages so precisely. It was Sam Snead who said something like: I don't know of a golfer good enough not to put the ball on a peg when the rules of golf allow it.
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