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  1. Just over a year ago I posted a thread and suggested everyone re-evaluate "hitting up with the driver." I take my own advice to all of you (to question everything) to heart, and I've spent - off and on - the past year re-evaluating this advice myself. And after a year more of instruction, consideration, and thought, earlier this week I proposed to Dave that we stop teaching people to hit draws with the driver and allow for perhaps a bit more of a fade pattern - a straight fade pattern. I know I've helped make popular these charts showing that the average PGA Tour player hits down on the driver -1.3°, but the average PGA Tour player hits the ball 285 yards or so. The average golfer doesn't, and the numbers are undeniable - players who swing up slightly hit the ball farther with the driver. Their launch conditions - both launch angle and backspin rate - tends to improve. Now, many of you know that the stock shot from a neutral alignment and a swing that's perfectly on-plane with an iron is a push-draw stroke (or a push stroke) because when a ball is struck before low point, the clubhead is still moving slightly outward. Again, if the club is swung perfectly on plane, or "in-line," and the baseline of the plane is pointed directly at the flag, and you catch the ball before low point, then the path will be forward (duh), down (duh again), and slightly outward. If you're having trouble imagining this, imagine holding a plate on about a 45 degree angle. The low point is where the plate sits on the table. That's the deepest part of your divot. Notice that any tangent prior to this low point is still traveling outward, and any tangent afterwards is traveling inward. Anyway, the takeaway is this: for any swing, any ball struck before low point will be struck with a club traveling outward relative to the base line of the plane, and any ball struck after low point will be struck with a club traveling inward relative to the base line of the plane. Thus, for a base line oriented at the target, any downward angle of attack will result in a clubhead path to the right, and any struck upwards will result in a clubhead path to the left (that's a good chunk the entire D-Plane concept in 10 seconds, by the way). Now, you can manipulate things, of course. If you orient the base line 6° right, you can swing up on the ball 3° and still have a clubhead path that's roughly 3° right (the clubhead path with a driver is roughly 1:1 relative to the baseline with AoA). And you can play a fade by shifting the baseline 8° left and hitting down on the ball 4° too (clubhead path would be 4° right of baseline, so still 4° left of target). But that's neither here nor there... I want to talk about an inline or on-plane swing. Here's a picture of Charlie Wi (I could have used virtually anyone, but he illustrates my first point as he draws every driver he hits). What you'll see in this image are three lines. The red line shows his ball position. The blue line shows the center of his swing arc, or the low point in his swing. The green line shows a point at which he could position the golf ball to catch it slightly on the upstroke. Note: low point can be anywhere in a golf swing, but to keep things simple low point is going to be shown off the left shoulder, as it's almost always really close to the left shoulder in a good golf swing. It can move a little forward or back, but for all intents and purposes, "low point is straight down from the left armpit or shoulder socket" isn't going to get you into any trouble as a general rule of thumb. If Charlie swings perfectly on-plane, with this ball position, he'll be swinging ever so slightly to the right. If his clubface is slightly open to the target and closed to the path, he'll hit his stock push-draw. If it's square to the path, a straight push, and open to the path a push-fade. If Charlie's ball was teed up at the blue line, he'd be hitting the ball perfectly level. A clubface pointed directly at the target would result in an awfully straight shot. If Charlie's ball was teed up at the green line - just inside his toes or his left heel - Charlie would be sending the driver slightly to the left. A clubface closed to the target and open to the path would produce a pull-fade. A clubface square to the target and thus open to the path would produce a straight-fade. And the third, a push-fade, you can figure out. Here's a circle that illustrates this further. Let's consider that the clubhead swings in a circle (it doesn't - wrist cock/hinge changes the radius) with the center point being the left shoulder. The dots in this image correspond to the image above of Charlie: Note that this diagram serves a double function. We can consider this as an overhead view OR a face-on view. In either view, the blue dot is the low point (face-on) as well as the outermost point (overhead) on the circle. The red point is prior to low point (like an iron shot), and you can see it's struck while the clubhead is still descending to low point (face-on) and moving outward (overhead). Conversely, the green point is struck while the clubhead is ascending (face-on) and moving to the left, or inward (overhead). So, circling back (no pun intended) to our students, two things are true. 1. We don't want to teach two wildly different swings to people. The conditions are different for each - a ball on a tee versus a ball on the ground - but if the swings are really different, we want to avoid doing that. 2. Our students - and all of us - aren't on the PGA Tour. Distance is perhaps the biggest advantage you can have in golf, and we want to do all that we can to maximize driver distance for our students. So What are we going to do? We're going to start teaching students to hit the ball on the upswing. ::shock:: ! ::horror:: !!! How? Simple. Same swing - ideally an inline, on-plane swing - with a ball position that's slightly forward. This will produce an angle of attack into the ball that's level, +1, or +2 degrees. Maybe +3 (shoulder width, width of stance, any upper-body movement in the swing, etc. all play a role). Since this means the clubhead will be moving roughly 0 to 1.5 degrees left at impact, the stock driver shot we'll teach will be a straight fade or a push-fade (the path is going so little to the left that we'll likely default to a push-fade, because a straight fade aimed up the left side won't take a clubface more than one degree too closed to produce a baby pull or pull-draw). Now, it's important to note that this is a very slight change. People who talk about "staying behind the ball" and "hitting up on the ball" and all that tend to do a few things that are bad for their swing. First, and foremost, they'll drop their head down and backwards. This will lead to a number of problems, including a path that's too far left and too far up (ever drop-kick a driver?). Players will tend to flip and have a higher rate of closure, which will make the shot tough to time. This faking of the secondary axis tilt will prevent their weight from going forward, which can double up on these issues. No need for that - you can still pre-set the hips a little farther forward, your chest can still be roughly in the center of your stance, the ball can be inside your left toes and near or just forward of your left heel (your left arch, roughly), and you can push the hips forward, keep the head stable, catch the ball on a +1 or +2 degree upswing, achieve great launch conditions, and play a nice tight fade with the driver. If you want to hit a draw, by all means, move the ball back to Charlie's position. Or, better yet, set up slightly closed so that the baseline of the plane is oriented to the right. P.S. Not that he's the best example of anything relating to the driver, particularly back when this video was filmed when he was hitting down three degrees with the driver... but consider this image: P.P.S. Was I wrong? Sure, if you want to say so, I was. I consider this more an adaptation to how I teach, how we teach, but if you want to think I'm wrong, go for it. I never want "admitting I was wrong" to hold me back from changing something for the better. Nothing changed about my geometry... I just think that, for the average golfer, we can allow for a slight upswing contact and a fade rather than a slight downward angle and a draw with the driver, because distance is so important in the game and if this gives someone another 5 or 10 yards, so be it.
  2. That's once you get in. But the smaller the field, the harder it is to get in. So do you look at which is harder to win starting from scratch, or which is harder to win starting from the first tee? Maybe the reason the Masters has so many repeat champs is because they have lifetime exemptions. Nicklaus would not have qualified for the 1986 Masters if it gave, say, a ten-year exemption for Masters winners, and a five-year exemption to winners of other majors, which is the scheme the US Open uses (ten years for US Open winners, and five years for the other three). The PGA and British also give effective lifetime exemptions to their winners (the Open cuts it off at 60), but with their larger fields, they aren't as hard to get into, so the lifetime exemption doesn't matter as much.
  3. I think the notion that one of the majors is the most difficult to win is kind of silly, IMO. Doesn't each one have exactly one winner? Now if we want to talk about the hardest one to win for a particular player that might make sense. Clearly the US Open was the hardest one for Sam Snead to win. The PGA was the hardest for Arnold Palmer and Tom Watson. The Masters was the hardest one for Lee Trevino. The British Open was the hardest for Ray Floyd.
  4. Long ago, say 1954, Bobby Locke, on the final hole of the British Open, marked his ball one putter head to the side as requested. When Bobby's turn to putt, he placed his ball at the marker, not one putter head off. Bobby made the putt, won the tourney. Later on the old timey newsreel this error was found and weeks later the R&A; ruled 'no harm no foul', results stand. The rulesmakers decided that Bobby gained no advantage in his error. We cannot argue with the judge.
  5. Sure, some clubs from one model might benefit a player over clubs from another model. But the scale is way off for that comparison. Irons, drivers, etc, have detailed specs they have to conform to. Ultimately any difference between clubs comes down to using the clubs the same way while getting a different experience from them. But anchored putters change how the club is actually used, which is very different. That's really the crux of the complaint against anchored putters: That they change a fundamental manner in which the putter is used.
  6. Everyone has heard about Jose Manuel Lara being DQ'ed after his caddy attempted to hide a 15th club in the bushes at the BMW International Open in Germany. Now it has been announced that his caddy, Mathias Vinson, has been banned indefinitely from the European Tour . Too harsh? Your thoughts
  7. Yesterday we teed off at 9am. Thinking we'd beat the heat, I had been looking forward to our Sunday round all week. But what started as a beautiful day here in N Tx quickly turned into a sweltering sweat-fest. My drive off the first tee was tremendous, fading around the dog leg right to about 80 yards from the green. My approach was flawless, and my rusty Vokey 52 put the ball about 8 feet from the pin. I two putted for par. It would be another 5 or 6 holes before I managed to repeat what I'd done on the first hole. The humidity hunkered in like an invisible fog. The air temperature quickly climbed into the 90's. Hole #3, the first par 5, chewed me up and spit me out. 15 yards left of the green on my 3rd shot put me in deep rough where I hacked my way up to the green and in for a double. I was already sweating so badly I had to dodge the steady stream of perspiration falling from the brim of my cap just to concentrate on my putts. By noon I was drenched to my knees. My goal was to two putt every green. And although I accomplished that goal and my drives were almost all good, my fairway shots and chip shots suffered from the toll that the almost exhaustible heat and humidity was taking on me. We came to the #1 handicap hole on the course, hole #13. This long par 5 has a river running almost the entire length of the fairway on the right, a large pond 150 yards from the tee box on the left, and another large pond, requiring a 175 carry, separating the fairway from the green, for the 3rd shot to the pin. My drive caught turf just before I made contact with the ball, something I never do, and went wild to the left and into the pond. Despite my constant intake of water, my muscles were fading from the heat. I dropped at the pond and hit up the fairway just past the 150 yard marker. Laying 3 now, I pulled out my #2 hybrid and went for the green, hitting the ball right on the sweet spot, sending it over the 2nd pond, landing on the near edge of the green, and managed to two putt for a respectable bogey. Next hole was a 115 yd par 3. The air was so thick with humidity you could see it, like a thin layer smoke from a distant fire. I pulled the 9 iron and put it 12 feet from the pin. Another two putt for par. The next couple of holes weren't so forgiving and my endurance was fading with each shot, resulting in another turf-first drive, bad chips, another ball in the water, and finally here came the beer cart. Hoping a cold one would take the edge off what was turning into a messed up back nine I tackled the last 3 holes with renewed mental fortitude and tried to overcome my exhaustion. When we hit #16, I really had nothing left and knew it. My muscles were now spent and the heat was taking it's toll on all of us. It wasn't pretty. But with two holes to go I rallied. Hole #17 gave me my longest drive in two years. 280 yards with an easy pitch to the green and another par. #18, a narrow par 5 with sand all over the approach to the green and water just shy of the sand to the right, requires precision like threading a needle. I usually have no trouble with #18. I landed my 3rd shot 5 or 6 yards shy of the green to the right, just past the bunker, but in deep rough. Then I totally botched my chip from the rough and squeezed the ball two feet closer to the green. If I didn't love that wedge so much I might have sent it spiraling into the pond. I should have parred the hole but ended up with a double. The double bogey. Ugh. I saw several of those Sunday despite my good drives and consistent putting. Water claimed a few balls and even though I was chipping like a pro on the practice green before the round, by the time I hit the back nine my chips were just downright sorry, but for a select few. I salvaged a 91 for the day and was darn happy to leave the course with that. Looking back I could have cut 5 strokes from my score if I'd only been able to maintain muscle control on the short approach shots. All in all...despite the heat and humidity it was still a great day on the course!
  8. 76 this morning while playing a round withe coach/club pro. Beat him for the first time ever, he shot a 78, mostly due to two very unlucky drives, but I still beat him. I booked an amazing eagle from 187 yards on 16 after a horrible tee shot. My first ever full swing shot to the hole with anything but a wedge. Hit a beautiful 25* Hybrid, crossed the hazard in front of the green, bounced twice straight towards the flag, rolled in the cup for my third eagle of 2012. I even saved the ball to put up in my trophy mantle, as I have with all my big golf firsts, like first eagle, first birdie, first chip in, first ball to last 18 holes. I just mark em and put em in the case. Every golfball, puck, baseball, and medal in that case has a memory attached to it. The only thing missing is the panties my wife was wearing the first night we 'spent together', lol. I tried to add them to the case, but she got all upset about it for some reason. We also witnessed another club regular albatross the Par 5 5th. He hit his tee shot while we were on the green. Waited till we were clear [no, we weren't slow, they just tee'd off right behind us and kept pace), fired at the pin and it dribbled in. Hedley and I saw it roll in, he didn't. He comes up and see's us on the 6th tee, waiting on the group in front of us. We hear him say, 'damn, that looked like a good shot, but I dont see my ball', to which I looked back and said 'check the cup!'. To say he was extatic is an understatement. And who is to blame him, he just got a 2 on a par 5, in front of his partners, the club pro, and myself, who are all well known around the club. It was cool to see, and the guy who did it is both a great golfer and a great guy. I bought him 3 beer the next time the refreshment cart passed. One for each stroke below par on the hole.
  9. Had a pretty great day. Tough course especially for a 16 handicap rated 72.6 with a slope of 130. Started off par par par then then went 6 over til I got another par then a double bogey to end the front 9 (+8 on the front). Then I drove the green on a dog leg left against my better judgement ended up just over the bunker. Started the back 9 with a birdie. Then play got really slow and then hole 11 par 5. My drive sliced and landed under a tree. Punched out like 10 yards. Then snap hooked a 5 iron into the fairway bunker. 135 yards out with my 4th shot I put it about 15 feet from the green. Just missed the put but saved bogie after a terrible hole. Next hole sliced again but hit that 9 iron 145 to 5 feet from the pin from the other fairway. DIDNT CAPITALIZE! Next hole 170 par 3 and drop my shot about 10 feet from the pin and made the birdie. Next hole my 3 iron laying up to a short par 4. Ended up with a tree in my way. Could have punched out 100 yards down the fairway and up into the green. Decided to try and bend it like bubba with an 8 iron, most beautiful shot Started about 5 feet left of the tree and bent it all the way back to the middle of the green pin high, saved par. Next hole par 5 I had a birdie putt from 5 feet but a sideways slider that I missed. Next hole 3 putted for bogie on real short par 3 (so far EVEN through holes 10-16) which is unheard of for me. Especially when I was sitting one under through a 5 hole stretch. Next hole I start counting my score realizing I may be able to put up a score in the 70's. Next drive was a straight pull OB. triple bogie and bogied hole 18 to end with an 84. Im still really happy with the day. It showed my potential to be doing that all the time.
  10. he had two options 1) say "hey lara, ive ballsed up and brought 15 clubs, sorry dude" - His player gets a 2shot stroke and "perhaps" the caddie gets sacked by his player,.....but life goes on, people forget about it after a few months and hes caddying for someone else, this is lesson learnt 2) lie, cheat and try to not get discovered, got his man DQ'd and got himself thrown off tour, where no players will now touch him Regardless of the punishment and wether it fits the crime or not,....he had two options, the smart, honest option,.....or the dishonest, stupid one he dug his grave tbh
  11. Quote: Originally Posted by Irish-Ace Indeed, the wording is slightly vague. So for the rule to apply in my case, we have to presume that the "act of marking the ball" includes the removal of the said marker. Thanks for all the replies. Here is the decision explaining what the rule means by "directly attributable". Quote: 20-1/15 Meaning of "Directly Attributable" in Rules 20-1 and 20-3a Q. What is meant by the phrase "directly attributable to the specific act" in Rules 20-1 and 20-3a ? A. In Rule 20-1 the phrase means the specific act of placing a ball-marker behind the ball, placing a club to the side of the ball, or lifting the ball such that the player's hand, the placement of the ball-marker or the club, or the lifting of the ball causes the ball or the ball-marker to move. In Rule 20-3a the phrase means the specific act of placing or replacing a ball in front of a ball-marker, placing a club to the side of a ball-marker or lifting the ball-marker such that the player's hand, the placement of the ball or club, or the lifting of the ball-marker causes the ball or the ball-marker to move. Under either Rule, any accidental movement of the ball or the ball-marker which occurs before or after this specific act, such as dropping the ball or ball-marker, regardless of the height from which it was dropped, is not considered to be "directly attributable" and would result in the player incurring a penalty stroke. x
  12. As long as you put your ball back where it was, youre good.
  13. That's the beauty of golf. You don't need a partner to play it.
  14. The lead statement that the OP posted is the opening of a chapter in Whitworth's book, Golf for Women. In the five-page chapter, she explains what she means. Though she says the left side should be dominant, she does not mean that the right side has no role to play. Beyond that, I would suggest you read the chapter, because her explanation makes good sense.
  15. Then you undestand wrong. You claim to be educated about the history of marijuana , but claim that it is harmless! And then you say that I am ignorant! Anyone who thinks that marijuana is harmless has obviously smoked too much of it. But then, cancer and brain damage aren't really "harm", are they? Really, you can smoke as much as you like - but don't kid yourself into thinking it is harmless. As I said earlier, the grumpiest and angriest people in this thread are those who in sist on their "right" to do something that is illegal, antisocial and unheathy. I have worked with too many adults and youths whose brains are irreparably damaged by "soft" drugs like marijuana.
  16. I did a screen capture on your vid. What I'm pointing out is look how far your club has moved on takeaway and your shoulders have not started to move yet. You have picked up the club to almost 45* completely with your wrists. I have this same problem from time to time. I have to really concentrate on my left shoulder initiating the takeaway. This keeps me from picking the club up and bringing it too inside. Please keep in mind that I'm a 23 hdcp! This is just what I see, I am in no way qualified to give swing advice!
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