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  1. Not really a song, but I probably ought to have air-raid sirens. That way anyone around can duck and cover.
  2. Just saw your post on dividing up practice time iacas. Your explanation and reasoning is really well thought out with solid statistics to back you up. I completely agree with your assessment and for once there is nothing to debate! Ha! I didn't read all 32 pages of this thread, so I'm not sure if this was mentioned, but last year a guy named Peter Sanders wrote an article where he compared a scratch amateur to a PGA Tour pro to see how much difference there is in different areas (driving, approach shots, short game and putting). The article starts off with the overall difference in scoring…a PGA Tour pro has a scoring average 2.25 strokes better than a scratch amateur, but Tour pros also play courses that are 3.2 strokes more difficult, so the difference is 5.45 shots which was rounded to 5.5. The breakdown looks like this: Tour pros are 4 shots better than a scratch player in driving and approach shots, and 1.5 shots better for short game and putting. This supports the 65/20/15 concept as well. It might be hard to change the perception that has been preached for so many years, but I am a believer.
  3. 1. The first major surprise was all of the merchandise we were given, golf bag, shoes, clothes, balls, etc. The second, and even more surprising thing, was the final score. Who could have guessed we'd end up tied? 2. I like all of the formats, really. Foursomes (alternate) is maybe the more stressful, and the hardest to get into a rhythm, but its still fun. I'll agree with most of the others, I probably enjoyed the team matches a little more than the individual match. 3. There were no pushovers on either team, everyone was a strong player, but @Club Rat may be the toughest of the tough from the red team. 4. We tied, how much better can handicapping work? Getting or giving strokes doesn't matter all that much when the range is so tight. Either way can get into your head if you let it ("I get a stroke here, I better win this one" or "I better play extra-hard here, I'm giving a stroke"), you just have to put it out of your mind. 5. I think I'm a reasonably fast player, but @kpaulhus was definitely faster than me. 6. I'm sure there were drives around the 300 yard range, I'm sure @kpaulhus had one or two. I know I was in the shorter-driver group, along with @Club Rat, with solid shots carrying 230 or so. 7. There was very little drinking going on, and none until the matches were over each day. Both @Club Rat and I had a couple of beers most evenings, but that's about all that I really noticed. If I had to guess, I'd say the @kpaulhus could put both of us away if he had a mind to.
  4. I understand the Euro Tour is going to start using walk up music . .starting today in Dubai. What would your walk up song be? Mine would be "Spanky" by The Gourds The part I would use starts at 43 seconds in . .and I'd get them to record it clean for me . .I'm sure they would being local boys as they are . . You boys need a spankin I'm the one that'll do 'er You boys need a spankin I'm the one that'll do 'er
  5. Just a couple quick thoughts on @bkuehn1952's questions. - There were no real surprises for me. And, I might add, that's a good thing! My only real expectations were to meet some great guys who loved golf as much as I do, and have a blast competing with them. The trip certainly did not disappoint. I already knew @Golfingdad pretty well, but was glad to make 12 new friends - all of whom I would gladly tee it up with again. In particular, I spent several rounds competing against, and sharing a ride from the airport to our house with @GolfLug, who is just as nice in person as he is online. Interestingly, once I got past the butterflies and fear of putting my partner in a terrible spot, I really enjoyed alternate shot/foursomes. It was probably my favorite format and one that I wish I had the chance to play more often. In terms of competition, it was clear that everyone was a straight shooter with their handicaps because there no pushovers in the group. Meaning that anyone could make life miserable for their opponent in their own way. @SavvySwede buried me on the back 9 of our singles match with a 5 hole/2 under stretch. With his distance advantage, @saevel25 was never out of a hole. And @jamo made more long back-breaking putts in our opening fourball match than I care to recall. But in terms of grinders: guys you wouldn't want to play if you had a large sum of money on the line? @mchepp and @DaveP043 were both maddeningly consistent. I played two rounds with Dave and one with Mike - and while my memory might be fading a bit, I don't remember either of them hitting a single really lousy shot. Drinking was mostly contained to house afterwards. But if I had to guess, I'd put my money on @Clubrat to down those cold "barley pops" with the best of them.
  6. If I am playing with my wife and/or grandkids, we typically play some sort of team game like a 3 or 4-person scramble or two 2-person scrambles. I don't want anyone to have to play behind us while they all take 5-10 shots each. If we can't keep up with the group in front, we will just pickup and move forward or allow the faster group through. No matter how slow a group may be, no one should ever hit into another group intentionally. If I thought someone was doing that to me, I would call the clubhouse. If the course won't address the issue, then they are going to give us a refund or lose our business.
  7. 1. Few things, not greatly surprising but certainly wasn't expecting: Erik and Mike hooking us with the sponsors and the sponsors hooking us up with ALL of our play gear except clubs. I had packed all kinds of blue shirts, shorts and shoes for the three days. Dang. I use the PING bag with my name and The Sand Trap embroidered on it till day. How evenly the teams were matched. The tied final score was only about a 5% accident, IMO. I had expected the blue team to have a distinct advantage which did manifest in the first two days but then red came back and evened it out. Deserved. What was not a surprise - The venue quality. Knew it would be great and absolutely loved Moon Valley. 2. Foursome kicked my butt. Never got settled enough to play equivalent to either of my two partners. But having said that I am hoping to get picked just so I can redeem myself. Enjoyed fourball and singles equally. 3. @mchepp who has a under bearing presence with a disarming smile but has some serious match play chops. Should mention @Big C as he got down from trash cans. From our side I am absolutely certain @DaveP043 is a tough opponent for anybody. Competing against folks like that can wear you down. Relentless and the quality of play wavers very little. I learnt a LOT. 4. I think HCP was fine. I was one of the higher HCP so obviously I want to get strokes as I should. 5. Played 3 out of 5 matches with Kyle in them including my singles. No contest. I think if he could, he would just hit the ball while walking up to his next stroke without stopping to take a stance.. 6. There were at least 4 players in the 280+ range for the week, with one routinely up in low 300s. Median I would guesstimate 245ish. Short side is in the 215-220 range. Honestly it is hard to compete seriously in this crowd with that kind of distance no matter how well you keep it in play. 7. Didn't think there was much drinking going on other than a beer here or there so hard to say but there were a few who I would say can hold their alcohol. There were cigars too. Not one of the questions here but I want to say this was a very solid group of guys including the captains and it cannot be mentioned enough how well we all got along. There was absolutely zero 'unhealthy' gamesmanship then went on. You just couldn't tell the teams apart at The House. Loved it! @Golfingdad, have given up on the fact that my swing will never win a beauty contest but there is a method to the madness even though the result doesn't always point to it..
  8. Excellent thread @Rainmaker. There are many to choose from, but I will go with this for now: Rock and Roll Band - Boston
  9. Good job! Game Golf is a good tool, but when comparing it to what you're seeing on your actual handicap, you're comparing apples to oranges because the calculations are completely different. Rather, I'd recommend that you use one of the many free, non-USGA compliant hcp sites to enter every round you play. Continue to maintain an official handicap, entering only your eligible rounds. The added benefit is that you'll gain insight to how you play when you're playing by yourself vs how you play whenever others are around.
  10. An interesting option to Alternate shot is Greensomes. This is where the two player teams each tee off then they pick the best shot. Then alternate playing in from there.
  11. I see, this only adds one point per foursome, and you want two. Easily solved: just make this side competition 2 team points, or make it 1 point for the front 9 and 1 point for the back 9, or make best total net score 1 team point (for all 18 holes), and best ball net score (like the fourballs played earlier in the week) another team point. Many possibilities... Sounds like a lot of fun. I might be still under 10 by then, I hope and would love to be considered, but I am not currently all that firm on the time frame.
  12. How about giving the extra point to the best net team score while playing 2 matches of singles? In this case, add both (net) scores and the lowest team total wins the point, or half point if they tie. It's different than the fourball matches, when only the best score of the 2 team members counts. Here, you have to stay in the game, no matter what, for the good of the team... It may force everyone to hole out though, except with a inside the leather kind of rule?
  13. Really? Wow, you're taking this WAY too seriously. Trust me (even though you obviously don't), I wasn't trying to welsh you out if $20. And lecturing me (or anyone else who's listening) on ethics for a silly bet is, frankly, silly. Forget the bet. Im happy to support sandtrap and will donate the $20 because I think it's a great resource. Oh, and tiger won't finish
  14. It was. Originally, this thread was 65/25/10. That was before we were doing all the research in writing LSW. Then we saw how relatively poor golfers were from the short game, so we moved the 5% to the putting from the short game.
  15. One additional thought. Hitting "right behind you" may or may not be hitting "into you". I play with guys that are a lot longer than I am. I'll often play before they do because while they're waiting for the group in front to move on, or to clear the green, I know they're out of my range. If you're on the green, 270 yards away, I'm not afraid at all to hit my approach because I know it's going 225 at best. A ball dropping in 50 yards short of where you're standing may feel like being hit into, but it's not always the case. Too many people who have never hit a 250 yard drive in their life, feel the need to wait for the green to clear when they're 275 out for an approach. To answer your question though, the small handful of times in my life that I've actually been hit into, simply turning around and spreading my hands in the universal "WTF" sign has been enough to get the point across.
  16. Your first post seemed to indicate that you took your time on the course. While that's certainly a nice thing, being aware of others and their time is equally nice. If you find yourself being 'the slow group'... you owe it to those on the course to do what you can to pick up your pace. That said, I second what @bkuehn1952 suggested. My daughters (9 and 11) got clubs for Christmas. I will take them out in the afternoon when the course is at its slowest (about 2 hours before it gets dark)... and we'll play (along with my 16 year old son) a scramble format. There are kids tees on our course where they'll play from... I'll play from the white tees... my son will play from the red tees... and we'll just select the best shot of the 4 and play from there. We've yet to play a nine hole scramble that's taken more than about 90 minutes, walking and goofing off. On the rare occasion that we've had anybody behind us (within a shot or so distance), we've simply sat down on a bench until they catch us and we've let them play through. If anybody were to hit into us, I'd assume it was accidental the first time. The second time, I'd suggest they play through. First, it's a game that's supposed to be relaxing. No need to ruin it by either rushing or worrying about someone behind you IF you're not moving slowly. Second, you don't want to set that kind of example for your son on the golf course by confronting them or stomping on/picking up their balls. To me, it's simple enough to move to the side for 5 to 10 minutes and let them play through if you're not in a hurry... and if you are in a hurry... you can always move up a hole to speed up a bit. CY
  17. After reading the post a couple times I keep coming back to the point that your group is slow. I'm not saying it is right for people to hit into you but you said you only usually let faster groups through meaning there are times you let a faster group languish behind you. My advice would be to make your family outings at courses and at times that are not crowded and to always let faster groups through. The last time I was hit into was my own fault. I drove my cart out of sight on a blind tee shot instead of staying where they could see me. I handled it by driving back into sight and apologizing. I have never picked up someone's ball, hit it back at them, or stomped it in the ground.
  18. Well . .most importantly .. you have to play faster. If you're constantly having groups run up on you and talk smack and hit into you . .then you're playing too slowly. I don't deal with that because I don't play slowly . .if I'm behind the pace (as I used to frequently be), I'll pick up and advance to the next shot or even the next hole. That being said . .I have been hit into once or twice when the entire course was backed up, there was nowhere for our group to go . .and the guys behind us got impatient or whatever. One time it actually scared me . .it was an errant shot . .I suggested the guy yell "fore" next time. He told me to screw myself . .that was that. I *might* causally step a ball into the ground if I felt it was warranted and it would not be obvious that I was doing it. I would not pick it up, though . .not looking for a fight. But the main thing is . .if it's happening all the time either play faster . .play at some other time when the course is not crowded . . let your kids "tee it up" from 100 yards out, etc. A lot of courses post the suggested round time . .try to maintain or beat it. And, of course, keep waiving people through as needed. Oh . .and there is never any excuse to hit into another group no matter what the reason . .your course must have a lot of jerks . .I might call the marshal . .but I sure as heck would never hit into anybody on purpose.
  19. 1. I was surprised at how well we all got along right from the start. The swag from Ping and Linksoul were icing on the cake for sure. That really took the Newport Cup over the top....last thing that surprised me was how patient @mchepp was with me during our team match. I did some dumb stuff that round. I would say chipping out of the woods into a lake was probably the "Not top 10" play of the week. 2. I liked all the formats. I would say the first day out in foursomes was a bit nerve racking because I didnt want to let the team down and lose my match. I liked singles. @GolfLug and I had a great match. 3. I would say @DaveP043 would be the toughest opponent in my opinion. Dave has a super steady tempo and you know when he turns his hips that drive is going right down the middle. The best part about Dave is maybe the unintentional head games haha. You'd hit one bad shot and knew Dave was going to make par and win the hole, and he would say something to the tune of "you'll get it next hole" 4. The handicapping was very fair. I think I had to give 1 shot in my matches, and it was a tie most of the time. I didnt witness any huge blow out matches. 5. I am going to take the honor of fastest player. @mvmac even had to tell me to take my time, maybe a practice swing or two. I've always been one to turn a nice 9 hole round into a 40 min race. 6. Longest drivers of the trip were probably @SavvySwede or @saevel25. If we each had 3 drives I think I could "keep up" with them, but Matt and Vince are much longer on a more consistent basis. Shortest drive stats was probably @Club Rat, but he never hit it long and OB. He was in most holes throughout the week. 7. This is a tough one. I have no problem downing a 6pk on the front 9 and still shooting around 3 or 4 over. I think if you put myself and @DaveP043 in a bar and the drink of choice was those heavier beers he likes, he would crush me. If we went whiskey and diet I could put a ton down. Either way, not sure if that's an accomplishment but I can handle a lot of booze and still play relatively close to my handicap.
  20. a guy handed me a prov1 and it said refurbished on it and i handed him one of my prov1 and said can you tell a difference. he said your's doesn't feel like its hard and plastic and felt way softer. i said thats why i don't buy refurbished golf balls or the ones those guys get from the pond thats been sitting there for years
  21. i started to play back in 2000 and was 18 and i started out on the ping i3, i only played for a couple seasons and gave it up. i got back into golf in 2013 and went back to hit my ping i3 and hated them so much so i went and bought the nike vrx cb irons chunky of course and played them for bout a season. after that i was hitting my irons really great and stuff and wanted to play some mb irons because my brother bought some and i hit them for the first time and loved them. so i ended up in 2013 buying some nike vr pro II irons and loved them ever since. i did loose a lil bit of distance with my MB but man i rather have control over anything. i was shot in the high 80s with my CB and since i switched I'm now in the high 70s and best round I've ever shot with my MB was 3 over par. switching to a small irons made me be more consistent with my swing and finding the center. now i could never go back to a chunky iron again, just looking down at address hitting a chunky iron just doesn't feel right. if your hitting center of the club 8 out 10 hits or 10 out 10 i would give it a try. you will be able to spin the ball a whole lot better and be able to work on shape the ball and it s fun when your out with your friends and able to call the shots you wanna hit. actually it will make you a better player. good luck and enjoy
  22. iacas

    "Holed Out"

    I was playing with a student (a kid) on the 8th hole at Whispering Woods. The flag wast tucked right a bit and I had only 130 or so in. I said I was going to chip an 8I and aim left a bit. If I pull it, I'm still putting. Straight, I'm putting. Push it and it might get close. I said I was chipping an 8I to help control the spin and distance, too. So I hit it, push it a bit, say "see, pushed that a bit, but it'll be fine" and the ball lands, hops, rolls a foot, and goes in the hole. I had to act all cool like it was totally planned (it was, to the extent said above), meanwhile he was jumping up and down and super excited.
  23. In his post round interview he said he wasn't in any pain. Made no excuses whatsoever. Struck me as humble and appropriate. http://www.golfchannel.com/media/tiger-struggles-77-dubai/
  24. I think you are overstating this. Most times when the ball hits the flag hard enough that it doesn't drop, then it was traveling with enough speed that it wasn't going to fall anyway. It was just going to skate right over the top of the hole and end up 12 feet by on the other side.
  25. I did watch through about 10 holes or so, then I was tired and Tiger was playing so poorly that I didn't have any drive to keep watching. His first tee shot set the tone, I think. He ended up 70 yards to the left of the fairway and ended up with a bogey on a 540 yard par 5.
  26. That was a great read, and i see what happened there, a little bit of miscommunication of terms on my part. what i meant in terms of short game was shorter swings, working on my half swings almost entirely, whether that be with wedges or with longer irons. I have been working on half to 3/4 swings more so than the full swing. When i look at what is actually meant by short game, meaning just chips/ pitches and bunker play, then i am closer to the post you referenced. so i guess thats more of a short swing school as opposed to short game. like @Blackjack Don was saying its great having people to spell out some of the issues with communication in golf because it seems there is so much meaning that gets lost in the terminology of the sport.
  27. +1 on Rock Bottom Golf. I recently ordered the wrong flex driver. It was clearly marked, but I had a senior moment and placed the order for the 9.5 stiff when I really wanted the 13.5 Regular. They quickly refunded my purchase price even though it was my error. They did take off the shipping cost however, but I don't have a problem with that in this case. They are quick to respond and "Scratch" takes a personal interest in any emails you send to him.
  28. Measuring your "progress via handicap" only reflects your playing trend over a period of time. Scores will usually vary but analyzing aspects of strengths and weakness are a better method. While GG will give one a perspective of strokes gained in categories, I like to pinpoint the areas which need attention. Over the course of a season, I'll adjust my practice routine on an "as needed" basis with detail to areas which are needed, IE; chipping, putting, full and 3/4 swings, etc. How would one recognize their priority when only reflecting a score history?
  29. Okay understand the difference but not sure I really agree on its "coolness". Not sure where the enjoyment is in ranking that says my 1 over on a dog track in still conditions here in Frankfurt was better than Tiger's 4 over in windy conditions in Torrey Pines. Let alone a comparison with a round made by Joe Nobody in Winnepeg.
  30. What's "cool" about it? It means nothing.... I don't need anything to tell me that if I shoot a round that's several strokes below my handicap, it's a very good round for me. Nor that, relatively speaking, it's better than a round by a better player that's a couple of strokes higher than his handicap. And it certainly doesn't make me a better player than he is.
  31. All good points but we have to remember, there are more potential golfers who don't care what we discuss in here. What works for them is not necesarrily what works for us. Scores to them are a source for jokes. They play and enjoy it. They care about their golf ability less than I care about my bowling. Yet they are perfectly content to hack their way around the best courses in town every Saturday they get a chance. It took me most of my life to understand it but at some point in the early 90's I finally got it. If I were to send any of these guys to a fitter I would never hear the end of it. But I can live with it because I would never ask a friend to do something I wouldn't do myself. I think if we ever want to make this sport acceptable to the mainstream these are the kinds we need to attract. And to be frank, I would rather spend my Saturday hacking with these guys than your typical club scratch pro wannabee.
  32. First thought: BUY USED!!! I have 3 hobbies: golf, guitar gear, photography. Of the 3, golf has the lowest-cost used gear rates. Example: Buy a 3 year old used TM driver. Technology is not much different today from 3 years ago. Probably get a used TM driver for $75 or less. Pick up a used fairway wood and a hybrid for less than $100 total. The only downside of buying a used iron set is it might be a 3-PW set. You won't likely use the 3-, 4-, or maybe even the 5-iron if you choose to purchase used hybrid(s). If you shop, you should be able to accumulate a bag of decent clubs for $250-300 tops. Want cheap gear? Try RockBottomGolf. Example: I wanted a go-to 5 hybrid. Did some research that concluded that the Callaway X-Hot was probably the easist to hit of a group of brand-name hybrids as result of a shoot out test. Bought a brand-spankin' new X-Hot 5-hybrid from RockBottomGolf for $49.95. Sure, it was 2 years old, but brand new! Deals on golf gear are everywhere. Just decide what you want, do some research and find good quality, 2-3 year old used gear. dave
  33. Sure, its easy to hit it past the old fat guy!
  34. "Here Comes the Boom" - Nelly Guess it wouldn't work too well if the opener was a par 3...
  35. Ditto, best of both worlds here as far as I can see.
  36. 2/2 - 15 minutes mirror work. Focused on Key 3 and completing shoulder turn. 2/2 - 15 minutes mirror work. Focused on Key 3 and completing shoulder turn. 2/2 - 15 minutes mirror work. Focused on Key 3 and completing shoulder turn. 2/2 - 15 minutes mirror work. Focused on Key 3 and completing shoulder turn. 2/2 - 15 minutes mirror work. Focused on Key 3 and completing shoulder turn. 2/2 - 15 minutes mirror work. Focused on Key 3 and completing shoulder turn. ...
  37. I like your idea of entering all rounds into GameGolf and then just the "official" rounds into the handicap service. You will have a compliant handicap index and a "tracking" statistic through GameGolf.
  38. TM got the driver. I'm not sure they will push for the putter.
  39. Right about Sergio lighting it up,6 birdies,1 eagle through 14, no bogies on card as yet, Stensen playing well. Tiger struggling at +3
  40. 1. What surprised you most about the Newport Cup competition? How much fun it was to meet everyone. We all got along great like we'd known each other for a while. 2. Which day/format was your least favorite? And which was your favorite? The second day of 36 holes is a long day. None of the formats bother me although I prefer the team games to the individual one on one matches. My match with @DaveP043 was great but I prefer the team matches more than playing an individual match. 3. Which player from the opposing team would you least want to face in a winner take all situation? All of the blue team was tough. @SavvySwede is very tough and never gives up, same could be said for @DaveP043 he battled me to the end and was very tough. 4. What did you think about the handicapping of the matches? Would you rather get or give strokes? There were not many strokes given so not much to go on here. Psychologically I always over think when I am getting a stroke from someone, like I can't lose this hole and it gets in the way of my mind. 5. Which player was the fastest as far as pace? @kpaulhus. Sometimes that guy would be hitting his second shot before I hit my drive. 6. Without naming names, what was the longest average drive stat for an individual player? Shortest average drive stat for a single player? @saevel25 and @jbishop15 were really really long, like tour players I have played with long. I would say I am definitely one of the shortest. 7. Who could drink the most without visible problems? This was not a drinking crowd. @kpaulhus could hold a drink but if I were betting who could drink the most and not show it I would go with @DaveP043
  41. 1. What surprised you most about the Newport Cup competition? The Final Score 2. LWhich day/format was your least favorite? And which was your favorite? Loved all of it. I initially expected alternate shot to be stressful but wound up enjoying it quite a lot. 3. Which player from the opposing team would you least want to face in a winner take all situation? I shy away from no competitor . @mchepp is tough though, hard to compete with a guy dropping 30ft bombs all week. 4. What did you think about the handicapping of the matches? Would you rather get or give strokes? Handicapping worked well. As long as it's only 2-3 strokes it doesn't seem to matter too much. 5. Which player was the fastest as far as pace? Would have been me if I didn't have to wipe the sweat off my arms and face every 30 seconds . Honestly though I have no idea. 6. Without naming names, what was the longest average drive stat for an individual player? Shortest average drive stat for a single player? From 310 to 240 I'd guess 7. Who could drink the most without visible problems? Hard to say as everyone moderated themselves well.
  42. I have been working on my arm structure and it's really coming along with the pitch shots I have been doing. A couple things that I have noticed that make it easier; focus on rotating my hips a little faster, making sure I release the club. I am using the term "release the club" because that's what I think it is but it's really kind of rotating my lead wrist down or towards the target before impact, which is causing my lead arm go go over my front arm sooner after impact. I have a tendency to hold off my release so this feeling is quite different. I use those foam golf balls so its hard to say, but they come off the face with a lot more compression and a lot more spin. It used to be that when the ball would hit the pillows they would fly towards the left side of the room, but now they seem to shoot right back toward me (might just be that I am squaring the face more or that it is slightly closed at impact). I am nowhere near trying it with a full swing yet but these half swings are going quite well. A couple questions to ask my instructor: 1) Is it normal to need to feel like I really need to turn through the ball while working on this piece (I just don't want this to be some compensation move)? 2) Does it make sense that I should feel like I am beginning to release the club, role my lead wrist down?
  43. 1 point
    Real golf, to me, is being 100+ yards out, on a windy day, standing in light, browned-out rough, the match all square, and wondering if I can bump a 9 iron to a back left pin location. The temperature is hovering around 48 and the course is all but deserted. My fellow competitor is closer; but mulling over a ticklish pitch over a green-side bunker. Playing it safe seems an opportunity wasted and, with two holes to go, this shot could determine the match. That, to me, is golf.
  44. 1 point
    Not saying a practice or casual round isn't real golf, or that I don't keep score on these types of rounds. Just making the determination that if I knowingly break a rule, I won't apply that towards my HI. If I hit a drive that I'm reasonably sure will be found, I won't hit a provisional. On occasions, the ball is lost in the rough or leaves. Instead of slowing down the round for everyone by walking back to the tee, I'll take a drop in the rough, give myself two penalty strokes, hit my 4th shot and continue to keep score. If my score at the end of that round is low, I'll still feel good about it (likely won't brag about a low 90's score). If asked, I'll tell someone without going into details - not to be deceptive, but because no one cares how I shot my 94. What I wouldn't do is post it towards my HC. Maybe there's a way to do it under 4.2, but I don't know that rule applies in this example. When I play a practice or casual round and play close to the rules, I consider it real golf. However, there are times when I concentrate efforts on a specific part of the game without keeping score, sometimes picking up without chipping or putting. This doesn't fit my definition of golf any more than hitting in my backyard does. It's 100% practice. As the entry title implies, ones definition of real golf is subjective.
  45. 1 point

    From the album: The Caddyshack

    The first time US Open Champion Scott Simpson played Ko'olau Golf Club he shot 80. Chi Chi Rodriguez shot 88. They weren't playing from the back tees either. The slope rating when I played it was 162.
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    • Played the back 9 holes today for a 40, (5 pars/4 bogies) with 14 putts.  Could of played the back side twice, but another Granddaughter had a soccer game down the street. Time constraints. Momma should of had twins.  The front 9 is closed for over seeding. It's that time of year around here, and another reason, I take a breather from golf in October.  Shot of the 1/2 round, was a 30+/- yard pitch shot that found the bottom of the cup. Felt ptetty good about that one. 
    • I'm usually playing alone. I usually meet up with a couple of guys on the course and play 9 or 18. My friends don't play and I'm not an early riser. I've tried morning leagues and I'd rather not deal with the politics.
    • Day 138.  Went to the range for a small bucket. Worked on weight shift as per priority piece.  Sorry for being short but internet is spotty tonight. 
    • Welcome to the forum and don't be a stranger.

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