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  1. 11 points
    I'm having a mental game expert address some of my juniors next Saturday, and I had some additional notes for him. Stuff I wanted him to include that may be particular to my program, the way I teach, my LSW information, etc. And I thought some of you might benefit. So here's that part of the email: 1. Practice is not playing. I'd like them to know that when they're working on their swing, they care what the mechanics are, they care what things "look" like somewhat, they care about making the best MECHANICS or something, to change or improve. But when they're playing, it's all about the results, not what it looks like. Better mechanics eventually lead to better scores, but sometimes you have to find a swing that works THAT DAY. 2. One or two bad shots is not a pattern. If you duck hook it off the first three tees, then yes, you might want to do something different the next time you get a driver out, but don't rush into changing your entire swing thought or game plan after one or two or even three slightly funny shots, or you'll be changing something after EVERY bad swing, which happens more often than people realize. 3. Have realistic expectations. PGA Tour players: make 50% of their 8-footers and only 15% of their 20-footers. On better greens. Average 2.8 shots from 100 yards out in the fairway. They hit it to about 18' on average. Hit about 60% of their fairways, but almost always keep it "between the ropes." Hit three to four "great shots" per round on a great day. Their standard is higher, but still… they don't love every shot they ever hit. They also hit shanks, chunk chips, etc. You only see the leaders on TV. Get up and down only 2/3 times. Scrambling is tough. But they almost never take two chips or two bunker shots. Then of course, talk about how having proper expectations for yourself will be very personal. Expectations can be for one shot or for the score for 18 holes. 4. Have proper expectations and goals for entering tournaments, but enter them BEFORE you're "ready" for them. You might have a better way of saying this, but basically, we entered Natalie in HJGT events before she was anywhere near competitive for them… so that by the time she was competitive in them (now), she'd know what they were like. It's NEVER a bad thing to play as many events where you have to put your name and a number up on a scoreboard for all to see - it can only be BAD if you have unrealistic expectations about your abilities. Go into competitive golf with the proper mindset - that you're LEARNING how to compete, LEARNING how to deal with it all, how to handle the slow pace of play, playing under the rules, playing with strangers, everything… go in with the proper mindset and it's all about growth, regardless of the outcome.
  2. I received the Cup a couple days ago and was very excited. I figured the best way to spend a day with the Newport Cup was on the course! I immediately decided the University of Michigan's course would be a great place to play. The course is located right across the street from The Big House. There was no warming up on the practice green Ultimately, the clubhouse staff told me to go home, take the Cup with me, and come back in May. Undeterred, I made the cross town trip to my "Home Course", Leslie Park Golf Course. Things looked promising. But then the reason for the empty parking lot became clear. No golf at Leslie for a few more weeks. Still, I was optimistic. Fox Hills remains open year round. Surely I could play a quick nine there with the Cup. Foiled again!! So I settled down in the nearest snowbank and enjoyed a cold one. Truthfully, it was a great day and The Newport Cup was a nice companion. Yes, we got a few odd looks during our adventures. I imagine everyone probably wanted to know how I acquired such a cool looking companion but were too embarrassed to ask. Everyone should try to make one of the 2019 Newport Cup teams because having this little pewter trophy in your hands is worth the effort.
  3. For some reason, you have missed hundreds of posts that do accept that. I've often said I can't even prove that Tiger would beat Vardon head to head, although I'd bet on him. What I CAN prove is that Tiger was more dominant than Jack, for more years, against stronger fields. It is 100% certain that Tiger had twice as many years (10 to 5) as the undisputed best golfer in the world as Jack did. See my data in this post if you want to debate that. https://thesandtrap.com/forums/topic/2203-jack-vs-tiger-whos-the-greatest-golfer/?do=findComment&comment=1434179 It is 100% certain that, using the Official World Golf Ranking formula to determine field strength, several World Golf Championships had stronger fields than some of the majors held the same year. It is 100% certain that they had stronger fields than any of the majors Jack won before 1975. And it is 100% certain that during his prime (1996-2009), Tiger won 13 of the 20 WGC stroke play events he entered, a .650 batting average in a sport where a .100 average is Hall of Fame material (no other golfer won more than one stroke play WGC during those years). His worst finish was ninth, and he got top fives in all but two of them. - It is 100% certain that Arnie, Jack, and Gary became the "Big Three" in part by winning six British Opens (two each) from 1959 to 1970. But there were a dozen or less Americans in the fields of the British Opens of the 60's, and that includes amateurs, seniors, and club pros. Take those out, and there were zero to three Americans to beat in some of those "majors." - It is 100% certain that some of the PGA Championship fields of the 1960's were two-thirds club pros, a situation Jack himself called "absurd and unfortunate." https://www.si.com/vault/1968/09/16/614249/rebuttal-to-a-searing-attack It is 100% certain that of all the top European money winners (i.e., those who won the Order of Merit and its predecessor) between 1955 and 1974, all but one of them never played in the US Open or PGA Championship in their lives. The one exception, Peter Oosterhuis, never did it before 1975. Peter Alliss was one of the best players in Europe for nearly 20 years. He won the Order of Merit twice, and beat the biggest American stars like Palmer, Venturi, and Casper in his Ryder Cup matches, but he turned down over half of his Masters invitations. Too far to travel, he said. His Ryder Cup partner, Christy O'Connor, also won the OOM twice. He never played an American major in his entire career. It is 100% certain that before the world rankings were established in 1986, the only sure way for a non-PGA member to get into a US major was to win the British Open. In summary, it is 100% certain that there were only a handful of international players in the field of US majors, and only a handful of American players in the field of the British Open, before 1975, and that it wasn't until the 1990's that almost all the world's best players played all four majors each year. So how do we know that made a difference? It is 100% certain that the Ryder Cup was the US against the British Isles until 1979. Once continental European players were allowed to participate, the record has been 11-8-1 in favor of Europe over the US, indicating that even one on one, Europeans are as good as Americans. It is not mere speculation to say that only half of the world's best players were in the majors of the Jack era, especially when you consider what the Ryder Cup record might be if the opposing Ryder Cup teams had included players from Australia, South Africa, Fiji, etc. It is 100% certain that from 1926 to 1978, there were only three non-Americans who won majors in the US. It is 100% certain that since 1988, there have been only two years when a non-American did NOT win a major in the US. In the two years that didn't happen, an Aussie and an Italian won the British Open, so a non-native has won a major every year, even when Tiger was winning one to three majors a year. Non-Americans won all four majors in 1994, and have won three out of four in several years since then. Even four of the last six US AMATEUR championships were won by foreigners. The conclusion is obvious to anyone with an open mind. The field kicks everybody's ass. It beat Tiger 70% of the time in his prime, and it beat Jack 80% of the time in his prime. The stronger the fields, the harder it is to win. And half of the world's best players were not in the field for the majors played before the mid-70's, at least. Tiger was more dominant than Jack, for more years, against stronger fields. That is what we claim, and can prove.
  4. People do not choose how susceptible they are to addictive substances. There have been many, many cases where a person completely naive to opioids was placed on them for knee surgery, for example. The prescriber negligently wrote directions as ‘take 2 tabs every 8 hrs.’ So they do exactly that. Next thing you know they’re addicted to the medication without even realizing it. And this is especially difficulty to deal with if the person is genetically prone to opioid dependence. Some people can drink alcohol everyday and stop at one drink. Then go weeks without having any. Some people have a couple of drinks and it triggers an insatiable response to continue. Additive substances don’t effect everybody the same. Period. It’s similar to muscular build/fitness gurus. I’m not minimizing their efforts but some people can do much less training and see substantially better results all based on their DNA, not their incredible workouts alone. Same with your smoking. It’s awesome you quit but you may have a much less ‘inherent addiction’ to nicotine than another person. Sometimes it takes a lot of self reflection to admit one has an addiction. They want to ‘beat it’ or often try to deny it. They will tell themselves they will only have two beers then stop. Or just a glass of wine with dinner ....4 hours later they’re smashed after having one after the other. The acceptance that one has an issue is a responsibility that one needs to take/accept. But you must understand the medical side of this and show compassion for them. It’s not easy to accept you have such an issue especially with a substance (alcohol) you see so many people enjoy with no issues at all. Chris has taken this step.
  5. If they're not Miuras forged from the heart of a supernova and cooled with the tears of virgin dragons, they ain't for me
  6. I'm gonna give my wife the best 90 seconds of her life tonight...
  7. I don't mean to put a damper on things for you, but I can give you my personal experience (which seems fairly similar to yours) and my honest opinion. I was in a situation somewhat similar to yours with just a slightly earlier timescale, in that I played golf not too competitively until I decided to truly get serious starting in the spring of my junior year of high school. At this time I was approximately a 15 handicap golfer or so, occasionally getting lucky and breaking 80 (on easy courses) and but mostly shooting mid-80s to mid-90's for my scores. That spring I started working at a golf course. From March until May I played 2 rounds a day on the weekends and 9 holes a day during the week after school. From May until August I played 1-3 full rounds every single day, with only 7-10 days off for a vacation. In that one summer I was able to go from about a 15 handicap down to a 2 handicap golfer. I was hitting the ball a lot better, my short game was sharper, my tee shots could be controlled, it was a huge difference all around. I played my senior year of high school golf and did pretty well, enough that I was in talks with coaches from a couple of different colleges. By the time the snow melted and spring rolled back around I had slid back to about a +5 handicap thanks to the break, but I played every day again the next summer. The best my handicap ever got to was +2.3 that summer, but stabilized at about +1.5 towards the end of the summer. Unfortunately the colleges didn't pan out, since the college that made an offer didn't have engineering. No big loss, I figured I could try to walk on to the team where I did go. I played in the US Open Qualifier the summer after my sophomore year of college, having practiced a fair bit in the spring, to see how my golf game was once I was through with the time-consuming "weed out" courses for engineering and could have time for the golf team. You can read about my experience at the qualifier in the thread below. Long story short, it didn't go too well. I changed a lot of things right before the event (including buying a new set of blades that I hadn't practiced enough with, having previously used S55 irons) and just overall played poorly. It wasn't the clubs' fault, it wasn't the course's fault, I just didn't play great. I kept golfing through the summer and ended the year at a +0.7 handicap, if I remember correctly, but never again got back below a +1. I know that my personal limits were found when I got to a +2.3 handicap. I was playing multiple rounds of golf most days for 2 months in a row by that point in time, and to see more improvement I would have had to be able to find the funding to dedicate my life entirely to golf. I would've needed a regular (at least once a week, but ideally more often) schedule with a swing coach, a place to live while doing nothing but golfing, and the money to keep buying balls and wedges (I was going through 2 sets of wedges a year for those two years) as well as entering more and more tournaments. I wouldn't have been able to make do just by playing the same "average" course every day (Saddleback Golf Club, not a bad course but the greens were always rough and slow), and I would've needed to have access to multiple different championship quality layouts to practice on and hone my skills. It's possible that with that kind of work I could've gotten to better than a +3, and I think it's possible I MAY have reached as good a game as a +4 if I hit a hot streak for one handicap revision. I could have possibly even reached the sectional qualifying rounds for the U.S. Amateur or the U.S. Open. Despite being able to drop nearly 15 strokes from my handicap in only 5 months, and being able to go from a 5 to a +2.3 in 3 months, it was clear to me at that point that I was never going to be a touring professional. To give some perspective about why this is, we can take a look at the post from back in 2013 when one of our members got to play a round with Graeme McDowell: and this later post in the thread: The gist of it is that Graeme came out to play in the middle of December for a promotional event with his sponsors (Srixon and GolfNow), and shot a 63 like it was nothing. To be fair he was ranked #12 in the OWGR at the time, not just any tour journeyman, but he still was able to shoot a 63 while shooting the breeze with a couple of other guys, talking during his swings, joking around, all of that. This is comparable to what you see from Monday qualifying results (https://www.mondayq.com/) where the guys who make it are shooting 67 at worst if they want to make it into the tournament on a PGA-difficulty course. The best tournament round, or round of golf period, of my life was a 65. I felt like everything was going my way, and I knew I was playing at the peak of my abilities. I was 5 under par the first day of the tournament (the 65), and 4 under par on the front 9 of the second day. It's the best 27 holes of golf I've ever played, and I know it is the best 27 holes of golf I can reasonably expect to ever play again. The problem is that I was shooting these scores at municipal courses. Decent courses, of course, but the CR was 70-72 for both of those courses rather than the 76+ for many PGA Tour setups. I played out of my mind for 27 holes, and even then I was 3 shots worse than Graeme on a day where he was messing around and 4-8 shots behind the guys playing in Monday qualifiers that aren't even good enough (or just aren't lucky enough) to maintain a tour card. It was the best golf I've ever played and I was quite happy with it, but that was when I realized just how impossible it would be for me to make the Tour and make a living off of it. Sure, if I dedicated my life to golf and had others fund my efforts I could've made a run at it. I might have even had marginal success on mini-tours, possibly making it into a Tour event once with a lucky Monday qualifier performance where I again played out of my mind (if the others didn't). But when it takes a stroke of extreme luck for me to shoot anything better than a 69 or 68, and even those scores in the 60's are pretty uncommon (my +2.3 was created with rounds that averaged less than 1 under par, just played on a course with a more difficult rating), it really solidified in my mind just how good and different the pros are even from amateur golfers playing at their peak.
  8. Vinsk

    First Time Out

    No hibernation for me. I play poorly year round.
  9. I played this weekend at my home course (6550 yards, 70.2 rating, par 72). On Saturday i played solid and score 72(E) but the funny thing is that all 18 holes i score Par. This was the first time in my life i did that and the 2nd time with a bogey free round. On Sunday after Par on the 1st hole I called it 19 to my playing partners. I kept doing that on the next holes that i also pared. The streak came to and end on the 6th hole where i made a birdie from 20 feet (yes, thankfully i didn´t end it with bogey or worst). So finally i pared 23 holes in a role. Ended the round 71(-1) for a pretty good weekend overall. Are there some more good streak in the TST worth telling?
  10. I got my first hole-in- one today. Par 3 first hole, Birch Hills GC.
  11. Got nothing to do with that, man. Political correctness, that is. I'm big on personal responsibility, too. But this ain't that. This is a medical condition, and by taking a leave of absence and focusing on getting healthy from his disorders, I could argue that he is taking responsibility.
  12. 7 points
    Hello again, I haven't written one of these blogs in a long while. I haven't really been on the site for a long while. I had been practicing and posting every day for 405 days, That streak came to an end on May 10, 2018, when I went into the hospital. The last 11 months I have been going through things outside of golf, that are more important for my growth as a human being. Golf is my getaway, my therapy, my distraction, and my hobby. I love the game, it sometimes doesn't love me back when I'm playing it. Whether I'm hitting a 9-iron at the second that checks up too soon or I lip out that 4-footer on 18 for a 71, Golf is hard (R). I've decided that I really don't care that it's hard, I've decided that I just want to go out and relax and have fun playing the game. In the city championship last Labor Day weekend, I made the flight finals for the first time. I've played in that tournament every year since 2010, I lost 7 & 5 (ironically I played the same guy in the finals this year as I did in my first ever match), 2011 4 & 3, 2012 I was really sick Sunday and had to W/D, 2013, I lost 1 up, 2014 I lost 2 & 1 2015 I finally won a match 3 & 2 (It helped that I was out-driving my opponent by 70 yards), then lost 7 and 5, 2016 I lost 1 up, 2017 I made the semis and lost 3 and 2, Last year I hilariously won the 12th hole of my first match with a triple-bogey 8, to go 1 up in the match. Whilst laughing about it on the way to the 13th. I proceeded to play the next three holes, par, par, birdie to win 4 & 3. In the semifinals, I was 1 down after 6, (I started terribly was something like 4 over through 6 medal), I chipped in for birdie at 7, made par at 8, made birdie at 9 after hitting a terrible drive (I knocked the third shot to 4 feet), made bogey at 10, nearly made 1 at 11 (ended up making 3 I missed a 5 footer that was already conceded), and birdied 12. I went from 1 down, to 5 up in 6 holes, I put the match away with a par on 13 and won 6 & 5. (yes I won 10 with a bogey, my opponent had trouble with the right side trees, the only reason I made 6 was I took 3 to get down from 5 feet off the front of the green) I played the last 7 holes in 2-under and didn't even know I was playing that well until someone told me after my match ended. I was playing well but got tanked in the final 7 & 6. I did not play badly. I won just 2 holes, the 2nd and the 11th, however, that being said, I was losing holes to pars and birdies, I made only one double-bogey and that was on the 7th which is a par-3 (It was a good 5 too, I pushed a 7-iron into Fall Creek which is Oscar Bravo, and made 3 with the second ball, nearly holing a 15-footer to halve the hole. I think he shot 1 or 2 over, I shot 8 or 9 over and we halved #9 with birdies, which was a funny exchange, because he chipped in from just short of the green and I holed about a 30-footer on top of him. It was very different finishing second in my flight instead of last or T-3 twice. Going into the tournament, I decided that I was going to go out and just have fun, and whatever happened so be it. Over the winter I didn't do much practicing, as a matter of fact, very little. If you've seen my signature, I have different clubs in play right now but still have my Exotics bag. Actually might actually switch to Maltby from GolfWorks for the time being. I don't necessarily need the best and greatest new clubs. Becky and I separated for 5 months between October and March and we have since reconciled. Without getting to personal, one of our goals we came up with, was to try to do a hobby together. She tried golf a couple times with me, (she actually witnessed me birdie both par-fives on the front which I seldom do), but we decided we were going to either bowl or try disc golf. Come to find out disc golf is very inexpensive to get started in. I'm still trying to figure out the rules, but I'll get it. It's fun, it takes less time than real golf and is just as tricky. I was talking to one of our regulars at the golf course about it just yesterday, we're making predictions on which one I break par in first, disc golf or traditional golf. I've played 9 holes twice this year so far. The first time out I really didn't putt so I couldn't count it, but I estimate, I shot probably 39 or 40 on the front (or white tees, Newman is 9 holes with 2 sets of tees). Yesterday I shot 38, with one of the scratch players playing skins and they we're surprised. I didn't make any birdies but my par with a half-whack on 18 was good enough for $15, and my scratch partner and I cleaned up in the side match too. for my two bogeys, I lipped out on 11 after a decent bunker shot, and I was short sided and laid-up my chip to 15 feet on 14, and singed the edge, the rest we're all pars. I covered his double on 10 and his bogey on 18 (he birdied 12, 14, and 17 to shoot 36) so we were 3-under as a best ball team. I'm playing well, I have a very simple pre-shot routine with one swing-thought, right foot, left foot. My balance is a lot better, I actually finally figured out where the "balls of the feet" are. The step-through is now gone, my balance is back, and hopefully with any luck at all, I might get down into the 4.x by the end of the season, it'll be difficult, but I think with my new approach I can do it. I'll give you guys an update this time in May on how my game is doing to see if I've improved. For those of you who are wondering, Alina shot 49 for 9 holes last week (She's 5 1/2). She went with me and I really didn't play, She did. Mike told me. "Be careful, out there" She striped he drive from the actual ladies tee on #1 over the bunker, (She carries it about 125 yards now, and she is deadly with her hybrid (She has one of those now as she outgrew her other set). I played a little (I only brought a few clubs to pitch, chip and putt with so I had my 9-iron, wedges and putter with me. She actually beat me on #7, She made par and I made bogey and I didn't let her win the hole I legitimately did make bogey. When she parred 7, I knew she had a shot to break 50. This group of ladies was behind Alina and I, and they usually would be a little snotty about a twosome in front playing slow (we weren't Alina plays nine in 1:45). Saw Alina, par the 7th. To par she was +10 through 7. (She made 9 on #1) She piped a drive and hit 2 hybrids on the green at #8 and almost made par, tapped in for bogey, She hit a perfect drive on 9 and I let Alina make this decision herself, she grabbed her driver for her second shot (She got it just short of 250 out, off a 140 yard bullet), I think she thought she needed birdie to break 50, but she only needed a 7 (I don't tell Alina her cumulative scores, I tell her at the end) She topped one down there about 50 yards just short of 200, she then hits hybrid, hybrid on the front of the green (pin was all the way back) And three-putted for double... But that was all she needed for her first sub-50 9-holes. One of the ladies behind us, came up and asked me what she'd shot, I said "49 and she started with a 9." Alina plays the par-3s well at Newman from the ladies tees mainly because, well, it's just a driver for her. I talked to a local pro recently about maybe getting her a fuller set, and he advised against it for now, as her game develops and when she gets older then we can revisit that then. Not bad for a kid that plays 3 or 4 9-hole rounds a year at this point. But asks me to go hit golf balls all the time. She stripes it and I mean stripes it.
  13. I really like this topic/thread. I am surprised it doesn't get more use. At any rate, yestetday Myself, and 7 other buddies played golf. We usually get together once a month, or at least we try too. Although we kept scores, the scores were not important. All skins lost/won were spent on each other at the 19th. Just getting together, and swapping old stories, that we have swapped 100s of times before. Some gamesmanship was brought up. Some thought so in so cheated with his foot wedge. Then they remember his feet are in better shape than his wedges. Other's wondered how Jack made that 40' putt. That, and how did I miss that 3 footer. The point of this post is that I hope all the younger players on this forum will have the chance to grow old, with golf buddies of their own. This so they can enjoy all the accomplishments, or non accomplishments they lived through with those good friends. Having old, good friends is important as we all get older. Care home folks need visitors...lol Some in our group go back as far as grade school. Other were picked up along the way. Different walks of life are well repped. The fact that we all golf is a plus. Well some of us have game enough to be called golfing. Others, yeah, well they own their bag of clubs. $10 sets of Sam Snead signature clubs are well repped. When together, we all ride in carts. Some can't walk to far these days. We try to not hold up other golfers, while letting them play through as needed. Faster golfers do not know what real pressure is until they tee off with 8 old guys watching them. When we catch others on the course we take short naps. This lets them get out of our shorter driver ranges. After a round, we all finish our meet at the 19th hole. Food, beverages and good times are had by all. The waitress is well compensated for putting up with us. Like the song says there are drinks for the living and the toasts to the dead. Yeah, grow old with golfing friendships. You will be glad you did.
  14. You clearly don't know what you're talking about here. Contrary to what you might think, attorneys are bound by the ABA standards of professional conduct. Lawyers cannot lie in any court document or proceeding as that is grounds for disciplinary action, sanctions, and even disbarment under Rule 11 and other applicable rules. Lawyers have a duty to accurately portray what the law is in a particular jurisdiction. However, lawyers are also bound to zealously advocate for their clients. Lawyers can come up with creative arguments and argue "loopholes" as some may call them, to win for their clients (and of course themselves). That's part of the adversarial system. It pits opposing lawyers against each other to win for their clients and tries to ensure each side has adequate representation. Nonetheless, no matter how a lawyer may try to "spin" the facts or argue a "loophole," the law is the law. Comments like yours and from others are based mostly upon anecdotal stories and feelings they have and are not based upon any actual knowledge or experience in the legal field. Even those people who have some experience as a client, still don't know the ins and outs of the legal system. I'm not saying it's not flawed and doesn't need some changes, but it's pretty good by and large. We're getting way off topic, but to me, the constant battle in the legal system boils down to: rules v. standards. Rules are objective and we know what the law is. There will be some loopholes if the facts of a case don't fall specifically within the bounds of a given rule, but at least you know the law. Example: speed limit is 55 mph. That's a rule. If you go even one mile over the limit, under a "rules" system, you should get the maximum penalty each every time regardless of excuse or whatever. Standards try to incorporate "real life" and the subjective "let's look at the equities of the case" vibe. Example: speed limit is 55 mph, but the cop lets people go so long as they don't go over his rule of thumb of, I dunno, 65 mph. This allows for a lot of leeway and people can also argue discrimination and yadda yadda. So see, it goes back and forth on whether we want rules or standards, and it gets further complicated because state laws are not uniform across the land as states can make their own state laws. Bringing this back to Tiger's case, I don't know FL tort law, but the general rule is employers are vicariously liable for the conduct of their employees while they are within the scope of their employment. This rule doesn't generally include "coming and going" to work, but there are exceptions to this rule. @iacas Generally, moral obligations aside, you don't have a duty to act unless you have a legal obligation to do so. States have their own laws on this and can vary greatly. Some states impose no duty on bystanders to intervene, while on the other extreme some not only impose a duty but failure to do so may result in a fine or worse. It depends on the facts and the jurisdiction.
  15. Good grief, why? I’ve played for almost 50 years and never had anyone complain about that. I played today directly behind 3 4-somes of super seniors at the club. These guys haven’t moved quickly to do anything since the Nixon administration, and while we waited on every single shot, we still played in 3:20. Slowish by our admittedly fast standards, but if 12 guys, all over 70, none of whom were likely to have broken 90, can get around in that kind of time, there’s absolutely no reason anyone else can’t!
  16. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholism Just sayin'.
  17. Your quote highlights something that Tiger is seldom given credit for, which is that he has never (to my knowledge) tried to lobby for himself the way Jack did. Tiger is pursuing the two biggest records in golf, namely Sam's 82 wins, and Jack's 18 majors. Tiger is a student of the game. He knows golf history. He knows that Snead (and Jack, for that matter) have gotten credit for official wins in team events, very short field events, etc. that would not compare favorably with the Tiger Challenge, let alone the weakest official event Tiger has won. There have even been articles by reputable writers detailing some of the very questionable events included in Snead's win total. And yet, Tiger has never mentioned them, never even hinted that he's already passed Sam. He has always accepted the number the PGA has posted, and has tried to surpass it under the much tougher conditions of the modern tour. Same with the majors. Tiger knows that Jack won majors against fields with only half a dozen American touring pros in the field, or with over 100 club pros in the field, but he's never pointed out how weak those fields were. When Tiger was compiling his cut streak, or winning 8 and 9 times a year, or winning six or seven consecutive events, and being compared with Nelson, Tiger never mentioned how weak the Tour was during WWII, when Nelson was setting all his records. He knew very well that Nelson's win streak was set against very depleted fields, but all he said about it was that it was a record that would never be broken. Since Tiger passed Jack in career wins years ago, major wins is the ONLY significant stat where he hasn't blown away Jack's record. Tiger has over twice as many POTYs, infinitely more (can't divide by zero) Vardons, more money titles, more of just about everything that shows more dominance over stronger fields than Jack ever faced, and yet he's never suggested that "most majors" shouldn't be the standard. He just keeps trying to surpass Jack's record. That is in marked contrast to Jack, who switched his criterion for GOAT every time it looked like he couldn't reach the old one, and lobbied vigorously for "most majors" once he had that record. So at least in this area, it seems to me that Tiger has far more integrity than Jack.
  18. That's very unfair to Jack, since he played events well into his 60's. It also distorts Tiger's record, since he played injured for several years. It would be more fair to look at the the periods when Tiger and Jack were in their primes --- 1996 through 2009 for Tiger, and 1962 through 1978 for Jack. For both men, those are the years from their rookie season to the year before they first went winless, and fell out of the top 50 in the money list. Tiger played 239 official PGA events from turning pro through 2009, including 50 majors and 30 WGCs, leaving 159 "regular" events. He won 41 of the 159 regular events, or 25.8%. He won 14 of the 50 majors, or 28.0 %. He won 16 of the 30 WGCs, or 53.3%. Jack played 345 official PGA events from 1962-1978 inclusive, including 68 majors (and obviously this was before WGC's were established), leaving 277 "regular" events. He won 67 of the 277 regular events, or 24.2%. He won 15 of the 68 majors, or 22.1%. It's interesting that Jack won nearly the same percentage of majors as regular events, and Tiger won a higher percentage of majors than regular events. There could be several explanations for it, but it certainly seems to show that for the top golfers, winning a major is not a lot harder than winning a regular event. Many of the young pros today continue that trend. Yet another reason why "most majors" should not be the sole determinant of GOAT. And one more thing I always have to add when discussing Tiger's winning percentage: the WGC stat above includes the WGC match play. Single-elimination, 18-hole match play (which it was during those years) is always a crap shoot, and not nearly as accurate as a 72-hole stroke play event in determining the best golfer. The WGC stroke play events typically had the top 70 or 80 players in the world, with no amateurs, no Asian Tour affirmative action players, no legacy champs who hadn't won in decades, and no club pros. When Tiger was making his comeback last year after several years of dismal results, he still qualified for the Players, and all four majors, but he didn't qualify for the WGCs. I think it's fair to say that almost all of the WGCs Tiger won had stronger fields than almost all of the majors Jack won. Of the stroke play WGC events of Tiger's 14-year prime, he won 13 out of 20, an unbelievable 65% winning percentage. That, my friends, is sustained dominance, the like of which we have never seen before and will never see again.
  19. Come to think of it, yeah, there should be! All those players who took a divot should add a stroke per divot to their score! What a ridiculous question. I'd welcome you to TST, @Tusher, but c'mon. Your troll attempt was ridiculous. P.S. I renamed the topic. The original title was "2019 Masters Question."
  20. So, yeah… (For the record I wasn’t sleeping.)
  21. Heck, even when I'm out on the course by myself, I'm still holding a conversation with the other voices in my head !!!!
  22. He holds course records at courses he's never played..... Sharks have a week named for him...
  23. A wife and 3 children. Nothing has done more harm to my game than them. That being said I wouldn't trade them for the world.
  24. If you follow the swing thread you know I'm always working on getting less shallow/more steep on the downswing but only made minimal gains mechanically. To see if I can really change it I've been wanting to experiment with a couple things and got to run it by my buddy Mario a few weeks ago. Cool thing is he agreed and funny thing is it was what he wanted to try with me as well. Here is the change to the pattern, also ties into the hand ascending and steeper hand path pieces. Obviously these components are specific to me, Mario laughs that I'm the only player he gives these feels to and would prefer it if I didn't share because he thinks it'll hurt his business 😛 A piece that was left out that we are also working on is trying to do more "work at the hip" on the backswing, more internal rotation at the hip joint. Tendency is to rotate the right femur more external, pelvis turns a little flat and then the leg kicks internal hard and fast, causing me to tip back and flip. If I can get more internal work going, I'll be able to move the pelvis down and away from the leg in transition (internal to less internal). Doing that by setting up with the right knee more bowed out (was getting it kicked in, not on purpose) and feeling like the left knee "holds" until my right hand passes my right thigh. Here I am focusing on that along with some downswing rehearsals. Club head "tumbling" out on the downswing, not way under at 5.5-7. Mechanically I think this is the best my putting has ever looked and it's been pretty good on the course the past several months. Mostly working on setup stuff. Shoulders level, arms external feeling, lats packed, right hand controlling the stroke, underhand release feeling of the putter.
  25. You forgot about the grips made from the finest unicorn leather.
  26. The 5 wood is easier to hit than the driver. The difference is the lack of distance. Until you get lessons, this is a bandaid fix. I recommend you get lessons sooner than later and work with an instructor to fix your driver issues. Your improvement ceiling will be limited until you do. Not to say you can't play w/o the driver but to get to the next level, you are going to need it.
  27. Get the book the lowest score wins. It's much cheaper, based on quite a bit of data, and has helped me immensely.
  28. Okay so a couple weeks back I went out to see @iacas and he fit me for a new putter. As many of you know he is an Edel putter fitter. Anyway the process was pretty informative and took something like an hour. By the end of it we worked out specifications on a putter which I could aim inside the hole from about 20 feet away and fine tuned it even further with a couple of line on putter. It was pretty interesting and I feel confident now that I can point this thing at the hole. After that we worked with head weights and counter weights to get to a point where I was putting consistent distances. When that was completed we had a series of "specs" that should leave me with very few excuses. After all of that I picked out a few colors and added my initials, then 2 weeks and 1 day later I had my putter in my hands. Since the weather where I live has either been ugly or I've had to handle work stuff I haven't got to play with it yet. I can tell you I can roll a ball down a yard stick with it very consistently. I'm looking forward to using it. It should give me a lot of confidence to know that when I put it down I am in fact aiming the face at the target. If you are thinking of getting this done. I'd encourage you to give it a try. As of now I think it is a good investment of time and money. I'll try to update after I get to play some rounds with the putter and evaluate my putting stats. I've kept all my data from last year so I should be easily able to compare. 2 things you need to know: 1 - The round grip takes some getting used to. After using it a little bit and thinking about it, it does make a lot of sense. 2 - Edel putters aren't pretty. They look okay, but if you are one of those folks who like the look of a Scotty Cameron or some of the other fancy-shmancy looking putters out there. The Edel, by comparison, is very utilitarian, almost bland looking. If the balls rolling in the cup more often, however, than it will look great to me. Here's some photos: I'll try to update this post once I have a reasonable amount of data.
  29. I'm a huge Spieth fan (not quite to the point of @colin007 and Tiger, but close) However, I struggle to see him putting it back together. He has become more twitchy with his pre-shoot routine (almost like Sergio used to be), and although he can get a string of good holes, it is rare that he can put together a round and he seems to have an affliction of doubles or worst in every event. Greller has said he needs to play with feel more and less with technique, and that Jordan is spending too much time on the greens looking at his book and not reading the green and making a stroke. And as renowned as he was for dropping bombs on the putting surface, his approach shots and greenside game was what kept him in the hunt for many events. All that being said, Jordan is always on the top of my watch list - but he has been banished from my fantasy golf team until further notice.
  30. Well, I finally did it, and like a few others in this thread, it happened while (because?) I was not even thinking about it. It never crossed my mind. I haven't played much golf lately (once in 2019 prior to Saturday) and so I had no expectations. I hit the ball pretty well, and never really made any big mistakes on Par 4's, so no risk of a 6 there. That leaves the inevitable bogey or two on a par 5 that always ends up sinking me. Somehow I avoided it this time. All of them, though, were struggles so had I been thinking of this challenge, I probably would've blown it. Highlight was 18; Smashed a perfect drive down the middle and had 245 or so to the green. I'm not comfortable with my 3 wood these days so I just wanted to get a hybrid down there as far as I could ... and I "shanked" it 45-50 degrees right and about 90 yards or so into the next fairway. (I think I hit it off the tip of the toe, nearly whiffed it) Recovered nicely back into the fairway leaving myself 78 yards. I had to get up and down from there to complete the challenge (although, again, I wasn't considering it at the time) AND to give myself a chance at beating my nephew one last time before he leaves me in the dust. And I hit that wedge straight at the pin leaving a 3' straight uphill putt, which I made to tie my nephew, and then a few minutes later it also dawned on me that I completed the no 6s challenge. :) Bonus was that I shot a 79 (with no birdies and a really careless and dumb double on a par 3) which I'll take all day long after not playing for 3 full months. Apparently I should not play more often. 😏
  31. Assuming no lip issues, I just put the ball back in my stance an inch or two and really try and hit down on it. It's the same thing I do if my ball happens to be in a divot hole, or a muddy lie ... any situation where too much ground too soon is gonna really screw the shot up I focus on only hitting ball. If there are lip issues, then it's still the same shot, but you have to choose the club that you know is going to clear it first.
  32. I think he knows how to handle that.
  33. Pretzel

    2019 Newport Cup

    For reference, this is the view from the tee on the hole @Golfingdad is talking about: I added the giant red arrow that shows where the green was when you were standing on the tee. You had to hit it directly over the house there, and when @DeadMan and I were on the tee in this photo there were people sitting out on the patio of that house watching us - talk about pressure to not screw up the shot over the house! It was definitely high-risk, but was fun to make a run at it for sure. The greenside pitch I remember the most was when we were playing together and your approach for the alternate shot went long over the green on #13 from that awkward mound I put the tee shot into (photo below). Just a crazy flier from what looked like a buried lie, neither of us expected it to go long like that. Then I got lucky and holed out the pitch shot, but we couldn't even catch a break since @NCGolfer sank the East team's birdie putt anyways! These photos were taken by @RandallT who provided excellent photography of the entire event. I strongly encourage everyone who's even remotely interested in playing (and even those who aren't!) to check out the full album of his photos here to see some of the fun!
  34. Tiger didn't back into the win, and it strikes me as ridiculous to say it: He was in the final group. He was T2 going into the last round. He played every nine holes under par for the week - eight times. He shot 70 on a day when the field averaged 71.5. The low score for the day was only 67. He passed ONE player, and did so by making birdies. Backing into a major is what Rickie Fowler does for his top five finishes. He's never near the lead, but plays well on Sunday from far enough back that he has no real pressure and thus does "okay." Even in his prime when he wanted things the most he didn't win other majors, and the players now are slightly better than even in 2000-01. It's not entirely dependent on "if he wants it bad enough." It's not even mostly dependent on that.
  35. Here's a by-the-numbers look at Tiger Woods' fifth Masters victory on Sunday at Augusta National, courtesy of the Golf Channel Editorial Research Unit. Woods' win marks his fifth Masters title, one shy of Jack Nicklaus' record, and 15th major win, three behind Nicklaus. Woods joins Nicklaus as the only player to win a Masters in three different decades. There were 3,954 days between Woods' win Sunday and his previous major victory, at the 2008 U.S. Open. That's the fifth longest span between major titles. Woods' 14 years between Masters victories is a tournament record. Woods won his first major championship when trailing after 54 holes. At age 43, Woods is the second oldest Masters champion, behind only Nicklaus, who won in 1986 at age 46. Woods made 22 birdies and nine bogeys en route to finishing 13 under. He played the par 5s in 8 under and the par 3s in 4 under. He bogeyed the fifth hole in each round, the first time he's done that in any of his Masters starts. Woods led the field in greens in regulation (58/72, 81 percent). Seven of those missed greens came in Round 1. Woods was playing in final group of a major championship for the first time since the 2009 PGA Championship. Woods is a combined 32 under in his last three majors. He was a combined 37 over in the five major starts before that. Tiger Woods' fifth Masters victory, by the numbers | Golf Channel Here's a by-the-numbers look at Tiger Woods' fifth Masters victory on Sunday at Augusta National. I mean, he's not 20, but that's a bit much.
  37. Of all the majors, to win The Masters... 11 years since the last major. With all that's happened. A few years ago he didn't know if he's play golf again. This can't be expressed. You must have followed Tiger and the Tour all these years to get a feeling for what this would mean. Seen the interviews, the mugshots, the limps after another back strain, the withdraws. It's unprecedented.
  38. You want to play better? Let me tell you a tale. 30 years ago I was still playing for a living. I was talked into giving a ladies clinic at my home club by the Resident Pro. There I met my wife. Bad swing, could not ever break 100. 3 years later she won the club championship 2 years in a row. If you're over 35 you are never gonna hit enough balls to change your swing. Find a 'player' to show you how to 'play' golf with what you got. Never fight your tendencies, don't make 5 trying to make 3 when 4 is good enough .Quit trying to hit shots you can not hit. If you play fade, always play fade!! This game is 1st Tee to 18th hole, least shots. That's it!! practice chips, putts, pitches. 10 more yards with driver will not change nothing! This ain't hard boys, you wanna break 100,90,80.... Hit 10,000 balls or play your fade and learn to chip, pitch and putt. luv ya guys, just trying to help. example: if you're 5' 6" you can't dunk, so you spend lots of time shooting from the free throw line. you gotta play with what you got!! Yep, I've been drinking, but the advice is sound. ;)
  39. I shot a hole in one on the first hole a couple of weeks ago. It didn’t matter what I did afterward. I was set for the day!
  40. Hey, just a friendly heads up, you're way out of your element here. The guy you're disagreeing with here can back everything up with hard science. Everyone aims differently and there are ways of adjusting for that so that a golfer is able to confidently aim knowing that the face is aimed where he thinks it's aimed. I putted for years with a putter that had me lined up 2 FEET out from 10 feet out, but I thought I was aimed where I was intending. I don't mean to be argumentative, but you're wrong, it's NOT "all about imagination and touch".
  41. If the flag had been improperly replaced by the group in front of him, or perhaps even left out and the flag actually assisted in the ball going in would you have NOT counted it? "Assholes in front of me left the flag out... I'm not counting it... bah humbug." If a putt is rolling toward the edge of the hole and the hole is slightly damaged on that end and the damage helps the ball fall in, do you not count that? If you clearly miss a putt and it hits a spike mark and goes in anyway, do you not count that? We've all had bad luck when playing golf; a ball that looks destined for the green hits a sprinkler head and bounces over the green into the trap, a putt heading for the heart of the hole hits somebody's sunflower seed husk and is diverted and misses, a beautifully struck tee shot that just catches that one twig and all of a sudden turns into a disaster. It happens. The OP can relish in the fact that he hit a great shot. But he asked the question (I think very wisely) and it looks like its not a hole in one. If you are going to CHANGE OR IGNORE the rules for this instance, are you also going to CHANGE OR IGNORE the rules when the outcome favors you as well? I recently (while playing for an amount of money that mattered) skulled my gap wedge and it flew over the green heading for out of bounds, but it hit one of the white OB stakes and ricocheted back toward me and on to the edge of the green. I was happy to take that bit of luck. It would be wrong of me then to only accept the good luck and not deal with the bad luck. Should we change or ignore the rules and put my ball out of bounds, after all it was a terrible shot? Hitting a terrible shot and getting lucky is no different then hitting a great shot and getting unlucky. We should not change or ignore the rules in either case. … I mean, really when it all comes down to it, isn't that kind of the point of golf?
  42. ‘‘Tis better to keep quiet and be thought an idiot, than to open your mouth, and remove all doubt!”
  43. I was 7 years old. My Dad walked me down to #8 and he gave me a 7 iron and a putter with a golf bag to start with. We played #8 and #9. I will never forget playing #8 that first time with my Dad. He was very patient with me. After playing #8 and #9 together he let me go out and play #8 and #9 by myself. As soon as I finished I walked into the club house and asked my Dad when I could hit The Driver. All of his buddies started laughing in a good way. He had me go get his Driver and then he had me stand next to it. He told me as soon as I was tall enough I could hit The Driver. From that moment on I was determined to play golf so I could hit a driver. My dad I played a lot of golf together over the years. We had a lot of very special moments together. I wish I had only played more golf with him now that he is gone. Every year since he died I will go out and play a couple rounds of year by myself so I can just think about our times together on the course.
  44. Okay, So I’ve played this putter on actual golf courses for 3 rounds now. Here is my opinion; On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the best, I give it …. an 11. Yeah, it is a great putter. Having a putter built so that you can line it up at your target every time is a huge confidence builder. Not only that but weighted the way you’ll be most consistent with it. My only question is: Why on Earth didn’t I get one of these sooner? I’m not sure if it’s the confidence factor, or the actual set up factor, or whatever. But I have statistical proof that I putt better with this putter. Last year my putting handicap was 10.5. The very first round I played with this putter my putting handicap was +3.3. Yeah, you read that right +3.3!!! What, that’s insane! I’ve now played 3 rounds with it and my putting handicap is 2.3 over those 3 rounds. I’m fully prepared to admit there must be a honeymoon period. I also should point out that I played those 3 rounds on courses I know well. But never-the-less, the numbers are impressive. Needless to say, I am more than happy with my new putter. Note: I track all my shots, stats, and other data with Arccos.
  45. I’ve played well over 100 rounds with Scott Parel, now on the Tour Champions. When he played with our group, the over/under side bet was always 65. He’s shot 60 three different times, once with me, on a course with a 72.9 rating and 139 slope. Also played with Wesley Bryan and Vaughn Taylor and countless D1 college guys. Most golfers have no idea of that level of play, or even the night and day difference between college and professional. If someone had illusions, they would become quickly returned to reality. Bob Clecky, former long time head pro at Augusta National, told a young golfer asking the same question you are about professional golf, “if you can’t beat everyone in a 100 mile radius 9 of 10 times, you have no chance “ Sorry for the cold shower. Welcome to The Sand Trap.
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