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  1. I won't say I have never improved a bad lie. Pretty sure I have. Just don't remember the last time I did it though. Probably when our own, friendly group played. (gamesmanship at it's worst..lol) That said, I have never done it when playing for an important score, that I planned to turn in. Handicaps require accuracy, while playing with-in the rulles. The best, legal way to improve one's ball lie, is to put a good swing on the ball in the first place. Then hope you don't find an unrepaird, fairwat divot I have no problem with how others enjoy the their golf games. When my wife plays, she usually only putts....for par. She drops a ball on the green at a spot farthest from the hole. Others I know, will use a short tee for every shot to get to the green. Others will pick up their ball if it's with in a foot of the hole. Folks pay their money to enjoy the game in their own way. Who am I to worry about it? I have enough issues with my own game.
  2. To be honest, really, really bad advice. A lot of players actually have dual internal shoulder rotation at impact. How many of these guys are rolling the right forearm over the left? Where are their left elbows pointing?
  3. I think its possible to practice enough to time the compensations well without conscious thought. But they're still compensations, and as such are likely to get more erratic when practice time falls off. The more productive and consistent results come from swings that require fewer compensations.
  4. Thinking about it now, it might just be I'm too lazy to bend over and adjust the lie. I could do that thing people do with toe of their club trying to get the ball to balance just right on a tuff of grass, but we all know that you can fiddle like that for a while and eventually you are going to find that you just have to bend over and fix the damned thing. Plus, the bonus of hitting out of a terrible lie is if you hit a great shot you can brag about how poor the lie was. And if you hit a stinker you have a build in excuse. No downside really.
  5. DaveP043

    Pace Problem

    My problem with your original post here wasn't the issue you were complaining about, but the way you made your complaint. Intentional insults, poor descriptions (the slow play had nothing to do with USKIDS), and poor grammar make you much less credible in my eyes. Slow play is a common issue, but it won't improve simply because you call someone an "idiot" or "stupid". More often, you'll get pushback rather than cooperation.
  6. ghalfaire

    Pace Problem

    I am not against people keeping up with the group in front of them, they should. But I was implying that a player who's average with a 3 wood is 200, can probably sometimes, not often, hit is 215-220. Also, as frustrating as slow play is, if often isn't the guys in front of you that are the problem, they were waiting too. So give them a break. Don't bust a blood vessel because a player in front of you is uncomfortable with hitting a shot that MIGHT make the green while the group in front of them is putting out. In my case I got hit while walking off the green. It was a slow day and somewhere more than two groups ahead of my group was a slow group, and the ranger wasn't doing their job. Had the fellow who hit me waited 15 seconds I would have been in the cart and gone. Had he hit me in the head I probably wouldn't be here to write this. So I will repeat in case I wasn't clear the first time. It just isn't worth endangering someone so you can save a few seconds or even a few minutes on the time it takes to compete a round, regardless of circumstances. I dislike slow play as much as you do and groups that don't keep up and don't even try to, piss me off, but I am not going to ever hit a shot that I think has even a remote chance of hurting someone.
  7. What do you search in google to get those results! Joking! 😉
  8. This is an interesting topic because it seems to vary greatly depending on where you live. Around here you can pay anywhere between free and $140 for a driver fitting. However, most of the driver fittings will end up either free or up to $40 if you buy your club from them. In my personal opinion if you pay more than 50 bucks for a driver fitting then you are throwing money away. I know others will disagree with me but with a driver the fitter only has to fit you into what ever you hit furthest and/or straightest. I believe there is actually more to an iron fitting. With irons you have to take into account gapping, set make up, trajectories, how many wedges you carry, how many hybrids, you will probably want to be fitted for a long iron, a middle iron, and a short iron from the set. You may want different shafts in each. You may need to bend a few heads stronger or weaker. You may tweak lie angles, maybe more or less on the long irons, or the short irons, etc... However, I digress. In answer to your question I had one of those full on, pro style fittings for my driver. Here are my impressions. First - It was fun. Second - It was $140.00 and took about 2 hours. If I buy the club from them I got $100 off the fitting... and I did buy the club from them. So, I paid $40. Third - Consider which brand of club you are going to buy. I purchased a Cobra. Cobra gives you many shaft options for zero up-charge. Mizuno gives you even more options. The shaft I got in my Cobra F9 would have been an $60.00 upcharge in Callaway or Taylormade, and $90 upcharge in Titleist or Ping. Fourth - Be really leery of any fitter who tries to tell you there are no shafts that will fit your swing without an upcharge. Even Titleist or Ping should have a dozen or so options without an upcharge. There's probably something in those that are really really close to as good as the massive upcharge shaft. Fifth - If you do go for something with a big upcharge don't be afraid to use this phrase. "Hey Bob, if buy that Ping driver with the $200 shaft upgrade, and I give you a heathy tip, would you consider waiving the fitting fee?" Sixth - Don't buy it unless you love it. What ever you buy, you are going to be dropping your hard earned cash on it. If it doesn't truly improve your game, save your money for more lessons. Do let us know how it comes out. Good Luck
  9. Of course it's an over reaction, but it's Bryson and we love to pick at him cause he's the mad scientist and all that..and because he says things like this.. “I'm going to come back next year and look like a different person. You're going to see some pretty big changes in my body, which is going to be a good thing. Going to be hitting it a lot further,” “We make sure the neurological threshold is just as high as the mechanical threshold,” “In layman's terms, pretty much whatever muscle potentially you have, how big and the muscle spindles you have, you can recruit every single one of them to their full potential throughout the whole range and training the whole range of motion.” The guy is already in good shape, looks just as big as Brooks imo and is playing well! Like the guys said last night on Golf Central, just go bulk up..you don't need to make a public announcement, just go do it.
  10. Keep the ball low against the wind and club up. Curve the ball agaisnt the wind on side winds and club up. Hit it high on tail wind and club down not as much as you do against the wind. Most important, be extremely patience. In windy conditions everybody will do more strokes than averge. The one who can keep it cool have a huge advantage.
  11. Credit where it’s due, those VAS irons were the ugliest irons ever produced!
  12. Joking aside, he does look built to be able to stack muscles. Most professional athletes in sports where high muscle recruitment is required could bulk up due to their higher concentration of fast twitch muscles. The question is if they want to change their physique? Most of my ex-teammates in high school sports could bulk up a bit in a few weeks. They have the natural ability to get big. The problem is recovery. That’s where steroids are generally used. So, you have to have the ability to consume and use high thousands of calories and bulk up, then steroids can help with recovery. With a well regulated diet and minimal steroid use (or a modern recovery equivalent), he probably could bulk up in 6 weeks. Even though I never could afford steroids, but some of my teammates could. I just had debilitatingly sore muscles most of the time, while my ex-teammates were magically and fully recovered before every event. 🤪 Totally possible for a pro athlete to do it in 6 weeks. Since, BD prides himself in the scientific method, I’d have to guess some form of PEDs will be involved, and I’m pretty sure it would be undetectable or even currently legal.
  13. Sorry Dan, somehow I missed this comment. I'm playing Mizuno MP4s. After thinking long and hard about this topic because it keeps coming up again and again, I've decided it's the irons. I suspect that my stock yardages are based on mis-hits and as I've improved my mechanics this year, I'm striking the ball better and hitting it farther. So now I'm noticing a bigger difference in distance from well struck shots simply because I'm hitting them more often. Yet I still hit those nasty toe shots once in a while and lose like 20 yards on them, so my shot zone is kind of elongated now if that makes any sense. I'm seriously considering getting fit for a more forgiving set of irons so my dispersion gets tighter.
  14. Playing off an old joke, the club to choose when there are windy conditions is a Canadian Club.
  15. You can watch the videos in that topic. BTW, I was reminded of this topic: So, it's not like I didn't once "like" the idea of PP3. This topic dates back to almost a decade ago, though, and I've learned and grown quite a bit in that time, as has our overall understanding of what happens in a golf swing.
  16. I thought so. And that should be a clue as to why you're wrong. Look, you're into TGM. That's fine, but man, those ideas are outdated. It's great that you can say PP3 and I know what you're talking about, but science has advanced since then. Homer himself would have been interested in the advances, and much of TGM would be very different now had he stayed alive. Think about this: for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. By pushing against PP3, which is below the coupling point of the hands, you're actually more likely to THROW AWAY the lag you have. If you hold a club in your hands, how are you going to push at PP3? By flexing the trail wrist and extending the lead wrist. Here's a lead arm and a club shaft. The coupling point is the red dot. If you apply a force at PP3 (where the arrow is pointing), in the direction of the arrow, it will lead to "throwing out the lag." What's the point of that paragraph? I'm honestly asking. Because where I'm coming from, I get to rely on actual data, actual science, physics, math, biomechanics, etc. to know what is actually happening. Then I turn around and teach the "feelings" to people, because nobody's an actual robot, but it certainly helps to discuss what actually happens. That's what I'm doing here. If you're interested in talking about only what something feels like to you, I'm not interested, because I have no idea what something "feels like" to you, and I've had enough students tell me something feels almost the exact opposite of what they're actually DOING that I've settled on how pointless it is to discuss it when not in person. If he actually had a sensor at PP3, he'd find a HUGE variation among Tour players and amongst average players. Of that 96%, some would have a great deal of "lag pressure" at PP3… because that's part of how they THROW away the lag. Look, dude, we're in agreement that lining the shaft up at impact is important. It's Key #3 in the 5 Simple Keys®. But the DST is a visual-only training aid. When swung at any real speed, the bend in the shaft disappears. Simple physics. They don't. A great many of them have more of what you're calling "lag pressure" at impact than PGA Tour players. Science disagrees with your ideas about "lag pressure." How much "lag pressure" do you think Vijay, Freddie, and Phil have in the photos above? How am I able to "lag" the club properly (and release it properly) holding it in just my left hand? Here's how: the arms accelerate, which builds lag, and as the arms (and hands) slow down, the clubhead catches up, lines up, and then overtakes the lead arm. That's it. That's all that really happens in the downswing. There are forces in all directions, too, but while the club shaft is increasing the angle between it and the left arm, there's actually more force on the FRONT of the right hand grip (on Vijay's right index finger) than on PP3, because that's the direction the shaft is trying to move. The hands are slowing down, and the shaft is catching up. I didn't say he flipped. But his left wrist is definitely cupped. It's been measured, and you can see it plain as day in the images I posted. As a result of you reaching full extension before impact. Not remotely accurate. You're flat out wrong here, for reasons I've already explained, and you seem to have completely missed the part where Justin Rose is swinging it and it's straight when he hits it, too. Here's a fact I think you're going to have trouble wrapping your brain around so long as you think PP3 matters like you think it does: the shaft of virtually every PGA Tour player is in FORWARD DEFLECTION at impact. Just physics, man. This has been observed, explained, measured, captured, etc. It's a fact.
  17. I too am a physician (not primary care), and avid golfer. I suffered from tennis elbow (lateral epichodylitis) several years ago and tried ice, heat, massage, NSAIDs and a brace. Nothing was working. One day a patient saw my brace and asked if I had "tennis elbow from playing golf". She obviously knew what she was talking about. I told her "yes", and that the brace was the last step until I got imaging. She told me to try this exercise and it worked: Hold your hands together in front of your sternum like your praying. Hold your hands close to your chest while stretching your elbows out. Squeeze the palms of your hands together. When you feel pressure (stretching) on the painful site your probably doing it right. I did this a few days and the pain went away and never returned. It was a case where patient helped the doctor. Fortunately she didn't bill me for her advice, LOL.
  18. So I moved to Portland a year ago but didn't get to play at all last winter. Plus last winter was historically dry here, and the courses I got to play last summer were all well drained and well dried out by the time I was playing. I've now gotten to play 9 holes a few times this winter, which leads to a question about wedges. I've been using the same 60˚ for years now, and I've always loved it. Use it for almost all shots under ~80 yards, almost all shots around the green, when I'm playing regularly have it really dialed in (for my handicap), pretty rarely thin it and (literally) almost never hit it fat. I don't know the bounce, but it's definitely (very?) low bounce. This history was all in southern California where conditions tend to be firm. This past weekend I played 9 holes at a wet, soft course. With swings that felt great to me, with good lies in both tight grass and first cut light rough, I chunked most of my wedge shots around the green, and a couple partial swing shots from further out. I was by myself and just playing a practice round, so I was playing multiple balls on many shots. The only way I could not end up taking a big chunk of mud starting before the ball and hitting the ball 25% as far as I wanted was to play a steep chip shot, ball back a bit in the stance, hands forwards, try to hit ball before ground (i.e., try NOT to use the bounce, against what I've trained my short game swing towards). So my question, is this just an outlier, as in the course was SUPER wet and soft and soggy, and in those conditions you just can't use bounce and have to try to hit ball first short game shots, regardless of club setup? Or is this proof of the concept that wedge setup should be determined by predominant conditions, and I should invest in a high bounce 60˚ for all but the driest summer months?
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