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  1. This is an interesting topic because it seems to vary greatly depending on where you live. Around here you can pay anywhere between free and $140 for a driver fitting. However, most of the driver fittings will end up either free or up to $40 if you buy your club from them. In my personal opinion if you pay more than 50 bucks for a driver fitting then you are throwing money away. I know others will disagree with me but with a driver the fitter only has to fit you into what ever you hit furthest and/or straightest. I believe there is actually more to an iron fitting. With irons you have to take into account gapping, set make up, trajectories, how many wedges you carry, how many hybrids, you will probably want to be fitted for a long iron, a middle iron, and a short iron from the set. You may want different shafts in each. You may need to bend a few heads stronger or weaker. You may tweak lie angles, maybe more or less on the long irons, or the short irons, etc... However, I digress. In answer to your question I had one of those full on, pro style fittings for my driver. Here are my impressions. First - It was fun. Second - It was $140.00 and took about 2 hours. If I buy the club from them I got $100 off the fitting... and I did buy the club from them. So, I paid $40. Third - Consider which brand of club you are going to buy. I purchased a Cobra. Cobra gives you many shaft options for zero up-charge. Mizuno gives you even more options. The shaft I got in my Cobra F9 would have been an $60.00 upcharge in Callaway or Taylormade, and $90 upcharge in Titleist or Ping. Fourth - Be really leery of any fitter who tries to tell you there are no shafts that will fit your swing without an upcharge. Even Titleist or Ping should have a dozen or so options without an upcharge. There's probably something in those that are really really close to as good as the massive upcharge shaft. Fifth - If you do go for something with a big upcharge don't be afraid to use this phrase. "Hey Bob, if buy that Ping driver with the $200 shaft upgrade, and I give you a heathy tip, would you consider waiving the fitting fee?" Sixth - Don't buy it unless you love it. What ever you buy, you are going to be dropping your hard earned cash on it. If it doesn't truly improve your game, save your money for more lessons. Do let us know how it comes out. Good Luck
  2. DaveP043

    Pace Problem

    There may be better ways to phrase this, other than intentionally insulting people. And why are 5 grown men responsible to decide when someone at a USKIDS event should play? But yes, this is one of many practices that helps to cause slow play. And for better or worse, this DOES happen at private clubs too. There may also be better ways to demonstrate your own literacy, or lack of it. I'm pretty sure you meant "too stupid to figure it out"
  3. Agreed. Now, after I type this post, I'm going to take 3-6 minutes off to go to the bathroom. You probably won't recognize me when I get back. I'm going to come back as a completely different person.
  4. ghalfaire

    Pace Problem

    Having just played a 4.5 hour round in 95 degree heat yesterday I can understand your frustration. But having been hit by a golf ball on fly ending up in the hospital with blood clots in my leg a few years back, I am not sympathetic. How about it isn't worth taking a chance on doing another golfer permanent damage so you can save 30 seconds on your round? I do share your frustration on slow play. The folks I play with usually finish a round in 10 to 20 minutes under 4 hours. Not real fast but not a bad pace either. IMO slow play is caused from a variety of factors and more complex than just "slow players", although I concur that is part of the problem. But it just isn't worth taking a chance on hurting someone to save a few second/minutes of time. BTW I belong to a private CC and slow play isn't limited to public course.
  5. You are probably low on the out the door price you could quickly end up with if you buy from them. Figure $125 for the fitting, that may or may not be credited back to the purchase price based on the fitting company. Driver head will be $450-$550. Shafts will probably be in the $300-$450 range as to what they recommend. Also they will tack on a $30 shaft PUREing charge and another $10 for the grip often. I have heard many people walk out with a $900 driver recommendation. My advise, go get fit, get the info for what seemed to be working well for you. Don't just look for one perfect shaft, look for shaft traits that seem to work with your swing. Most important element of a shaft is the weight, followed by balance point. After that shaft consistency, then bend profile. At the very bottom is torque. Find the right shaft weight and you are most of the way there. Then you can take those specs, along with the head type and related specs and go a few different ways. You can order the club new and find a stock or upgrade option that matches well against your fitting results. Or you can buy the head and shaft separately on eBay or a good golf forum. If you really feel the need to spend $900, to have a custom built driver then go ahead, in the end it's your money. Personally I don't think there is a golf club on the planet worth that.
  6. And as a reminder, just because you hear a ball land 45 yards behind you doesn’t mean that you’ve been “hit into” by the group following...
  7. Joking aside, he does look built to be able to stack muscles. Most professional athletes in sports where high muscle recruitment is required could bulk up due to their higher concentration of fast twitch muscles. The question is if they want to change their physique? Most of my ex-teammates in high school sports could bulk up a bit in a few weeks. They have the natural ability to get big. The problem is recovery. That’s where steroids are generally used. So, you have to have the ability to consume and use high thousands of calories and bulk up, then steroids can help with recovery. With a well regulated diet and minimal steroid use (or a modern recovery equivalent), he probably could bulk up in 6 weeks. Even though I never could afford steroids, but some of my teammates could. I just had debilitatingly sore muscles most of the time, while my ex-teammates were magically and fully recovered before every event. 🤪 Totally possible for a pro athlete to do it in 6 weeks. Since, BD prides himself in the scientific method, I’d have to guess some form of PEDs will be involved, and I’m pretty sure it would be undetectable or even currently legal.
  8. To be honest, really, really bad advice. A lot of players actually have dual internal shoulder rotation at impact. How many of these guys are rolling the right forearm over the left? Where are their left elbows pointing?
  9. robbie

    Pace Problem

    I've always found that rattling the ball up to their ankles while they're putting is most effective. Followed by a cheery apology of course. That works in Scotland where golf is a working-class/blue-collar game. I'm not sure how it would work in a posh English or US country club where the secretary is a retired Colonel!
  10. Youre allowed relief for "unusual playing conditions" now and causal water. Like if you take your stance and water or mud bubbles around your feet. I was playing in a tournament over the summer and a rules official have me relief in the fairway from a burnt out area. That normally would have been outlined in white, but i think its kind of a blanket thing now. So they dont really bother outlining poor course conditions anymore.
  11. What do you search in google to get those results! Joking! 😉
  12. Or just not get beaten up by other players for playing so slow 😂
  13. BogeySwine

    Pace Problem

    "Better safe than sorry!" Always ask yourself if you would like to have someone hit into you in this situation. Many years ago I had about 245 yards uphill to a Par 5. A foursome was putting out on the green and I decided to hit a 3-wood as the green was up on a hill. Of course I hit the shot perfectly and it carried to about fifteen yards from the green and took a big bounce to the green and ran through the foursome! They were rightfully upset even if the ball was rolling on the green. I went up immediately and apologized. One of them was having no part of that, his playing partners were a bit more accepting of my apology. I have never chosen to hit close to a green with people on it since that time!
  14. A component club is a club that is made from scratch using less expensive golf club parts. Based on the golfer's specs, the fitter will recommend a club head, a shaft, and a grip. The fitter, or club builder will put the pieces together for a completed club. The finished component club will most likely not have oem lables like Taylor Made, Ping, Callaway, Tour Edge, and others. Google " component golf clubs" for a more thoroug understanding of the process. I have 4 metal woods in my bag. They are all made up from components, and are a matched set, according to my swing specs. Total cost for the 4 clubs was right around $450 several years ago. If I were to have purchased these 4 clubs in a major, oem brand, the price would have been $200-$400 higher for the same spec'd, 4 clubs. The fact that I am still using them after many, many years speaks for their quality. All I have ever done was replace the grips a few times over the years.
  15. He's not a short hitter right? He's middle of the pack, maybe a little better in the driving distance standings. I saw him IRL once and he seemed to have a bigger build than say Woods or McIlroy. But if it helps him, more power to him, it worked for Molinari and others. He's one of those what did he say now guys and I just shrug my shoulders, nothing to see here, move on, maybe he's trying to deflect attention from pace of play. I'm slow, but hey, I'm buff. Peace. Out. Stat – Driving Distance Strokes Gained | Distance (All Drives) | Distance (Measured Drives) | Accuracy | Scoring | Other | Radar
  16. mcanadiens

    Pace Problem

    It's funny because I was in exactly the same situation earlier this year, only I hit the 3W and damn near took a guy's leg off. As you can see to the left, I suck and feel like a stupid idiot waiting for the green to clear on a low percentage shot. That time, I'd guess it to be a 230-240 yard shot. No way right? Wrong. I crushed it. The ball landed about 5 yards from the green and hopped a few feet behind the player putting. Lucky for me they were very nice about it when I apologized on the next tee. It's easy to say these sort of things, You'll be right most of the time, but I don't want to be the exception either.
  17. phan52

    Pace Problem

    We changed our expected time of play from 4:15 to 4:08 a few years back and got strict about enforcing it (a warning on first offense, restricting playing times on the second). The playing times for Saturdays and Sundays are posted as well so the slowpokes, even if they played within the allowed time were there for all to see. Upon monitoring, we found that the vast majority were now getting it done in 3:50 or less unless they were held up by that one slow group. Next season we are going to 4:00.
  18. Around here, (Southern Nevada) the fitting is usually free, if you purchase the fitted product from the company doing the fitting. Most even advertise "Free Club Fitting W/Purchase". Another idea is to go to more than one fitter. Get your specs, and tip each guy a few dollars for his time. Your specs should match up pretty close from store, to store. If they don't, then either the fitting(s), or your swing are suspect. If your fittings are ok, they match up well, then buy your club from the company offering the best price. Also a component club will be less expensive than an oem brand by several $100.00s. Most component clubs are just as good as the oems.
  19. Of course it's an over reaction, but it's Bryson and we love to pick at him cause he's the mad scientist and all that..and because he says things like this.. “I'm going to come back next year and look like a different person. You're going to see some pretty big changes in my body, which is going to be a good thing. Going to be hitting it a lot further,” “We make sure the neurological threshold is just as high as the mechanical threshold,” “In layman's terms, pretty much whatever muscle potentially you have, how big and the muscle spindles you have, you can recruit every single one of them to their full potential throughout the whole range and training the whole range of motion.” The guy is already in good shape, looks just as big as Brooks imo and is playing well! Like the guys said last night on Golf Central, just go bulk up..you don't need to make a public announcement, just go do it.
  20. I think there's some over reaction here. He wants to six weeks off to work out. Okay. Not sure what all the fuss is about.
  21. Keep the ball low against the wind and club up. Curve the ball agaisnt the wind on side winds and club up. Hit it high on tail wind and club down not as much as you do against the wind. Most important, be extremely patience. In windy conditions everybody will do more strokes than averge. The one who can keep it cool have a huge advantage.
  22. DeadMan

    Pace Problem

    I don't think waiting on the green to clear to go for a par 5 in 2 is that big of a problem. Yes, it's annoying watching a golfer top it 50 yards from 280 yards out. But waiting for a green to clear to go for it in 2 isn't going to slow many people down, if everybody is playing correctly. That bold part is really the key problem with the situation, and with slow play in general. If you have someone going for the green in 2, waiting for it to clear, what are the other players doing? Are they standing around the guy going for it in two? Or have they advanced up the fairway, (safely) getting in position to play their 3rd shot? If the other players are doing it correctly, they should be ready to hit their 3rd shot once the guy waiting for the green to clear hits his shot. They can't hit their approach shots until the green clears anyway. So yeah, you might be able to hit your tee shot 30 seconds earlier with the guy laying up instead. But you might just end up waiting on them to hit their 3rd shots as you're sitting in the fairway instead. I get that it's nice to be annoyed at the doofus who thinks he can get to the green from 280 or something, but the problem isn't necessarily that doofus. The problem is slow players.
  23. Credit where it’s due, those VAS irons were the ugliest irons ever produced!
  24. This is definitely a reaction to the Masters putting up videos of every shot on their website last year, right?
  25. The Cleveland Classic driver was a beauty. My second irons, sometimes first, are Cleveland TA6 with ActionLite senior flex shafts and a couple of Cleveland wedges. Most forgiving clubs, second only to the OLD Launcher irons. I current use a Cleveland Altitude driver, slightly shortened to fit me. A fairway finder! Best, -Marv
  26. He is an elite golfer who is more under scrutiny than others. Don't sell him short on this. He hasn't been exactly unsuccessful with his scientific method, time between shots aside. He has probably studied his own physiology for a long time and knows exactly what he wants to strengthen - and how - and has the science to back it up. I suspect "bulk up", to him, means something different than we think. Best, -Marv
  27. Hey mate. I am no expert by any angle. Yet this has been my goal for the year, unofficially...but most certainly. I have jumped through considerable hoops to rid my self of this pattern. I do PRECISELY that same thing. And it has had the same affect on my game and my perception of the sport as you describe. This has been a demon for me for so, so long. I have had it tamed with duct tape for periods of as long as a few weeks, only to see it return with a vengeance. But I have learned a lot and I am cautiously optimistic that the seal will hold this time. It feels like a weight off that I am peering over my shoulder to make sure it does not sneak back up on me. If we presume that you are not swinging with a very vertical stroke, you can try what *finally* worked for me. Lean forward an exaggerated amount on your downswing. You can tell you are doing it right if it causes you to rise on your front leg. This has enabled me to strike the ball with the club head on its way forward and outward at the same time. The “outward” is the key. The movement starts in your hips. Just be sure you are rotating your hips rather than sliding them or you may not get this result. To make sure I am not sliding, I prematurely push my weight forward just a bit at the start of the backswing. The net result is that my weight forward downswing ends up with me rising on my front leg. Try a bucket forcing yourself to do this. What you should get is a predictable result. Good luck!
  28. 7Ws will enhance anyone's game. I carry one and wouldn't give it up for anything....golf related. I hit mine as far, if not farther than my 2h I carry in another bag. More accurate with th 7W too. The OP should hit everything, that relates to his issue. That said, if it were me, knowing what I know, I would just get the 7W anyways. It will always fit nicely in the golfer's bag. Just remember to get the correct shaft for the swing involved.
  29. Sorry Dan, somehow I missed this comment. I'm playing Mizuno MP4s. After thinking long and hard about this topic because it keeps coming up again and again, I've decided it's the irons. I suspect that my stock yardages are based on mis-hits and as I've improved my mechanics this year, I'm striking the ball better and hitting it farther. So now I'm noticing a bigger difference in distance from well struck shots simply because I'm hitting them more often. Yet I still hit those nasty toe shots once in a while and lose like 20 yards on them, so my shot zone is kind of elongated now if that makes any sense. I'm seriously considering getting fit for a more forgiving set of irons so my dispersion gets tighter.
  30. I know a guy that can go over 130mph swing speed and shot a 96 yesterday...
  31. Playing off an old joke, the club to choose when there are windy conditions is a Canadian Club.
  32. I play in the wind quite often. I learned along time ago to not fight it. Ma Nature always wins, especially on the golf course. Alot of times, the course provides natural wind breaks. Sometimes not. I use those wind breaks to my advantage. I try to use the wind to my advantage. Left to right wind, I aim more left, and let the wind move the ball right. Vice versa on a right to left wind. I never try to fade, or draw balls into the wind. I am not that good. A tail wind is my friend. I use my same swing, with more club, and enjoy the extra distance. A head wind is a lower trejectory shot for me. A 3/4 swing, punch shot works well for me. I will play the ball further back in my stance, use more club, and use my normal swing tempo. I have even used a choked down driver for this shot off the turf. Swinging harder into the wind never works. I will widen my stance for more balance in the wind, and will choke down a little on the club grip. A wider stance means my shoulders are a little lower. Where I run into grief during windy play is on greens that are open to ground winds. Winds strong enough to move the ball off it's line while it's rolling. Not only do I need to read the green, I also have allow for the wind. Side to side winds are the worst. Extra speed helps the ball hold it's line on shorter putts. Longer putts, I just hit, and hope. A putt into a head wind requires more ball speed, and vice versa for a putt with the wind. Sometimes I have to factor in up, and down hill putts. I will play practice rounds in the wind. Stronger winds keep most golfers home, so I usually have most of the course to myself. In the end, golfers just do the best they can in the weather conditions provided.
  33. I'm up near Gainesville, you're in Orlando..We will settle this one day.
  34. Not me. My best day ever putting, can’t make up for a poor day driving...
  35. What is your tournament history like? Have you ever won anything significant? How Do I Earn a Senior PGA Tour Card? | Golfweek There’s no telling how many middle-age amateur golfers have watched a Champions Tour event and wondered if they have what it takes to be the next Jay Sigel. The Champions Tour, known as the Senior PGA Tour until... Here's one of the regional qualifier results from last year: PGA TOUR Champions Q-School - Final Stage PGA TOUR Champions Those are some good golf scores.
  36. Many of the low priced balls will have soft on their box. Find the cheapest one and try it. I am 77 and play the Callaway Super Soft. Been playing it for a couple of years now and find it to be just right for me. But you need to find the one just right for your game. When and if you find one that you really like and still don't want to pay even that much there are golf companies that sell used balls at about 1/3 to 1/2 the price. If you do go there do not buy their reconditioned balls. Buy the highest grade that they sell. That ball will be like brand new.
  37. My goal this year is to finish 9 holes. I have popped in and out the past 3 years while I have been trying to rebuild my swing and stamina after breaking my back, heel and leg several years ago. It's still difficult to play 9 even on a cart once the pain sets in, but I am hoping a little cooler weather will aid in my finishing 9. Thanks to a few of you, my swing has improved and so has my repeatability. I even took my MP33s out of the shed
  38. In my case, I was not looking for distance. I was looking for fairways!!! I preferred a straighter ball flight, that's why I went to 13.5 degrees even if I lost a bit of distance. By the way, I do want to stress that for me hitting a 13.5 driver is easier than hitting a 13.5 three wood because of the larger sweet spot. The draw fade adjustments have not really worked for me. I did set the driver to the most upright lie angle to compensate because I trimmed the shaft by an inch and a half. So my setting is A3.
  39. Perhaps if you ask yourself why you’re a Rory fan you’ll see how he won over Koepka. If I was a voter I’d certainly have voted for Rory.
  40. You can watch the videos in that topic. BTW, I was reminded of this topic: So, it's not like I didn't once "like" the idea of PP3. This topic dates back to almost a decade ago, though, and I've learned and grown quite a bit in that time, as has our overall understanding of what happens in a golf swing.
  41. I thought so. And that should be a clue as to why you're wrong. Look, you're into TGM. That's fine, but man, those ideas are outdated. It's great that you can say PP3 and I know what you're talking about, but science has advanced since then. Homer himself would have been interested in the advances, and much of TGM would be very different now had he stayed alive. Think about this: for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. By pushing against PP3, which is below the coupling point of the hands, you're actually more likely to THROW AWAY the lag you have. If you hold a club in your hands, how are you going to push at PP3? By flexing the trail wrist and extending the lead wrist. Here's a lead arm and a club shaft. The coupling point is the red dot. If you apply a force at PP3 (where the arrow is pointing), in the direction of the arrow, it will lead to "throwing out the lag." What's the point of that paragraph? I'm honestly asking. Because where I'm coming from, I get to rely on actual data, actual science, physics, math, biomechanics, etc. to know what is actually happening. Then I turn around and teach the "feelings" to people, because nobody's an actual robot, but it certainly helps to discuss what actually happens. That's what I'm doing here. If you're interested in talking about only what something feels like to you, I'm not interested, because I have no idea what something "feels like" to you, and I've had enough students tell me something feels almost the exact opposite of what they're actually DOING that I've settled on how pointless it is to discuss it when not in person. If he actually had a sensor at PP3, he'd find a HUGE variation among Tour players and amongst average players. Of that 96%, some would have a great deal of "lag pressure" at PP3… because that's part of how they THROW away the lag. Look, dude, we're in agreement that lining the shaft up at impact is important. It's Key #3 in the 5 Simple Keys®. But the DST is a visual-only training aid. When swung at any real speed, the bend in the shaft disappears. Simple physics. They don't. A great many of them have more of what you're calling "lag pressure" at impact than PGA Tour players. Science disagrees with your ideas about "lag pressure." How much "lag pressure" do you think Vijay, Freddie, and Phil have in the photos above? How am I able to "lag" the club properly (and release it properly) holding it in just my left hand? Here's how: the arms accelerate, which builds lag, and as the arms (and hands) slow down, the clubhead catches up, lines up, and then overtakes the lead arm. That's it. That's all that really happens in the downswing. There are forces in all directions, too, but while the club shaft is increasing the angle between it and the left arm, there's actually more force on the FRONT of the right hand grip (on Vijay's right index finger) than on PP3, because that's the direction the shaft is trying to move. The hands are slowing down, and the shaft is catching up. I didn't say he flipped. But his left wrist is definitely cupped. It's been measured, and you can see it plain as day in the images I posted. As a result of you reaching full extension before impact. Not remotely accurate. You're flat out wrong here, for reasons I've already explained, and you seem to have completely missed the part where Justin Rose is swinging it and it's straight when he hits it, too. Here's a fact I think you're going to have trouble wrapping your brain around so long as you think PP3 matters like you think it does: the shaft of virtually every PGA Tour player is in FORWARD DEFLECTION at impact. Just physics, man. This has been observed, explained, measured, captured, etc. It's a fact.
  42. I too am a physician (not primary care), and avid golfer. I suffered from tennis elbow (lateral epichodylitis) several years ago and tried ice, heat, massage, NSAIDs and a brace. Nothing was working. One day a patient saw my brace and asked if I had "tennis elbow from playing golf". She obviously knew what she was talking about. I told her "yes", and that the brace was the last step until I got imaging. She told me to try this exercise and it worked: Hold your hands together in front of your sternum like your praying. Hold your hands close to your chest while stretching your elbows out. Squeeze the palms of your hands together. When you feel pressure (stretching) on the painful site your probably doing it right. I did this a few days and the pain went away and never returned. It was a case where patient helped the doctor. Fortunately she didn't bill me for her advice, LOL.
  43. If there's a silver lining to the above story, I read it in today's paper. Shortly after the storm moved through, about 50 people showed up at the course with rakes and chainsaws to help! People have been showing up anywhere from 50 to 70 a day to help the course get back on it's feet. Local grocery stores are sending food there to feed the workers, and other local courses are offering assistance. This course has been in existence for 88 years, and always in the same, local family. There's something to be said for living in a small town! The course hopes to reopen this Saturday. i imagine it will look significantly different from the last time we played it. As one of the owners said in the paper, "As soon as we saw the tornado swallow the first green, we knew we had big trouble! " This may take a year or two to completely iron out.
  44. I still have them in my bag and was wondering if other SandTrap members did
  45. So I've played with 990's for 16 years and I finally decided to upgrade. I bought 990B's in great shape on ebay. The are even more blade like but have an incredible sweet spot. They feel more solid because of extra material behind the sweet spot. The ball travels lower, which is the reason I got them. I like the extra bounce on the 990Bs. I think that is why phil mickelson gamed them on tour. I dropped the same neon green paint-fill in them, and I'm not going to sharpen the grooves to keep the ball flying lower. People that play blades comment on how good they look. Paint-fill can make them pop, but a bad looking club head design will never get compliments from blade players. After I hit them a few times, people ask to look at them. They feel like forged clubs but they are bulletproof. Just like the 990's. I never got different shafts like I wanted with the 990's, but my 990B's have the same S300's and the club head is so good, that I don't even want different shafts. If new shafts change the feel, I would be upset. These clubs are still on ebay and they are worth it. I bought a bunch of forged 6 irons to try and couldn't pass on lower hitting/wuth higher bounce 990's, so I went with the 990B's. I have a bunch of forged mizuno and titleist blades, and I still think the 990 & 990B feel and play better with more forgiveness than blades. I know a lot about the dci titleist 990 /B family. If you have any questions just post them.
  46. So I moved to Portland a year ago but didn't get to play at all last winter. Plus last winter was historically dry here, and the courses I got to play last summer were all well drained and well dried out by the time I was playing. I've now gotten to play 9 holes a few times this winter, which leads to a question about wedges. I've been using the same 60˚ for years now, and I've always loved it. Use it for almost all shots under ~80 yards, almost all shots around the green, when I'm playing regularly have it really dialed in (for my handicap), pretty rarely thin it and (literally) almost never hit it fat. I don't know the bounce, but it's definitely (very?) low bounce. This history was all in southern California where conditions tend to be firm. This past weekend I played 9 holes at a wet, soft course. With swings that felt great to me, with good lies in both tight grass and first cut light rough, I chunked most of my wedge shots around the green, and a couple partial swing shots from further out. I was by myself and just playing a practice round, so I was playing multiple balls on many shots. The only way I could not end up taking a big chunk of mud starting before the ball and hitting the ball 25% as far as I wanted was to play a steep chip shot, ball back a bit in the stance, hands forwards, try to hit ball before ground (i.e., try NOT to use the bounce, against what I've trained my short game swing towards). So my question, is this just an outlier, as in the course was SUPER wet and soft and soggy, and in those conditions you just can't use bounce and have to try to hit ball first short game shots, regardless of club setup? Or is this proof of the concept that wedge setup should be determined by predominant conditions, and I should invest in a high bounce 60˚ for all but the driest summer months?
  47. Supposed to get above zero tomorrow here! I won't brave it unless it's above 40, so might be a while.
  48. Robster 7

    Pace Problem

    The worst thing they ever did was make golf 18 holes. It should've been 12 holes. That way the divorce courts would've been a lot less busy the last 30 yrs or so!;-)
  49. I wonder if there's any correlation with the advent of the ability to post scores via the Internet and a subsequent reduction in the quality of the peer review process too...... .....in other words, could there be more vanity handicaps out there now than there were previously?
  50. I started golf with cavity irons for 9 years. I just got a set of MP-58 irons (near blade?) and tested them out today. Although I was not very consistent and shanked a several times. I hit a a few balls at the sweet spots and felt like I swung through air and the ball travels 5 or 10 yards longer than my average shots. I actually didn't feel like I hit the ball. I have never felt like this with my cavity irons before. Is this the 'feel' people are talking about with blade or near blade irons? Thanks,
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