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  1. Today's round of golf was pretty special for me. For the first time in quite a while my wife, definately my better half, joined me for 18 holes. Just her, and her SC putter. A few months ago, she underwent brain sergury to remove a benign tumor. Her rehab was quite remarkable, and she has had no ill effects from the sergury, as of yet. One of the first things we did, at her request, after her sergury was, what I thought was an ill advised road trip. However she, and her surgeon convinced me it would be ok. Of course I took my golf clubs, and she took her cameras. They say doctors make the worst patients, and I kind of understand that now. Her being an orthopedic sergeon (retired) herself, she made sure the folks involved in the pre/post sergury were at the top of their game. They all pretty much knew each other anyways. As I understand it, the young doctor who removed the 20 something staples recieved quite an ear full. An ear full of education So this morning, just out of the blue, she tells me let's go golfing. That she would putt against my full game. What this competition amounts too is she drops a ball on the green, at a spot farthest from the cup, and putts from there. Her par is what the hole is. Basically it's my entire bag of clubs, against her, and one of my extra flat sticks SCameron should be proud. She won today's round by 3 strokes, which means I am on the hook for a dinner, and a show, of her choice, later on this week. I even broke 80. Obviously, even though a loser, I am a happy person. After almost 50 years of marriage I still have the woman of my dreams around who likes to golf. Perhaps next time out (a grudge rematch) she will add a few chips, and pitches to our competition. I'm pretty sure she will still win....😍
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  3. since @gregsandiego has the argument that a single uses more course resources by hitting two balls I would argue his index of 30 causes him to use significantly more course resources than my 2.6
  4. I've never really agreed with that train of thought. If the course is near empty and you're not holding anybody up, what's wrong with hitting two balls? As far as the singles issue, a single shouldn't be given any more or less respect than anyone else. They shouldn't expect to fly thru the course simple because they're on their own but if there's room on the course, the group ahead shouldn't make that person wait. Just let him thru.
  5. Wow, what a crappy way to view a single. A single deserves just as much respect as anyone else out there on the course because they are a fellow golfer.
  6. One bite at a time Learning (and keeping up with) the Rules of Golf is quite a task. Many say the least satisfactory approach is to pick up the book, start on page 1 and plough through to the end. This’ll either put us to sleep or be rapidly discouraging. So, how might we approach the task? My opinion is that we should take it “one bite at a time.” Let me offer this: First, take some time to study the Table of Contents to see how the Rules are organized, and begin to learn the Rule numbers and their titles (and later the subtitles). Second, near the back of the book is a hugely important section, Definitions. Read through them twice. A thorough knowledge of the Definitions will help build a solid foundation for learning how to apply the Rules. Third, now we can begin with the Rules “one bite at a time.” Look at the calendar . . . today is the 1st so read Rule 1, tomorrow, the 2nd read Rule 2. and so on. Next month, repeat the process, “one bite at a time.”
  7. This one doesn't make sense to me. Sometimes I grab my clubs and throw them on a cart and I'm gone in 15 seconds. Other times setting up a push cart, taking a phone call, waiting a little for a friend, etc. it might take me ten minutes from the time I pull in until I'm ready. I'm always fast on the golf course.
  8. Then there are those of us who enjoy the game all the more by playing as best we can and by the Rules. 😉
  9. Michigan Golf Journal December 2019 Golf news, travel, and golf information for Michigan golfers
  10. If you care to take this sort of a roundabout way to learn the Rules, I'd suggest doing the quizzes as an "open book" exam. That way you'll learn your way around the Rule book. Experienced Rules people say, "It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
  11. So, yesterday I played my par-3s in even, par-5s in one under, and averaged 4.5 on par-4s ... and no sixes. Anywhere. Or worse. First time I've done that. Check it out, my scorecard from yesterday (Nov 16, 2019). f This was from the blue tees at Encino golf course in L.A.. The second line is where I put notes for later: G (GIR) or N (near-GIR). I on occasion make other notations (S: I hit sand, A: got to the green as planned but not in either category; F: messed up the hole) I don't do this during tournaments of course. Just saying it here because it's in the picture. In case the challenge has any such restrictions, I played blue tees which are 70.1 / 114 / 6574 yards. No mulligans, played with friends in a skins/modified fourball type casual round. I did accept a few very short conceded putts (none over about a foot). I believe it qualifies for the challenge. And I was fully aware of where I stood, score-wise and challenge wise, when I hit my second shot at #16. So I played the last 11 strokes knowing I had a good round going and a chance to finish the "no sixes" challenge, with a par-5 waiting for me at the end. I hit a good drive, a great 4-wood, and pitched on from 75 yards with a 9-iron (half swing). Almost made the putt for a 75 too 76 beats my previous best score of all time by one (that 77 had two sixes on it... but also three birdies). I get the feeling I'll have a bunch more good scores if I can produce more "no sixes" scorecards
  12. Wilson Ultra yellow. 9.99 for 15. Best all purpose ball for a mid to high handicap. Like all other brands, it does not float.
  13. Rouge One is one of my favorites. I grew up with Star Wars. When I went to the first one, there were only 3 of us in the theater, my cousin, my sister and of course me. It was one of the most amazing movies I have ever experienced. Now when I watch the trailers for then The Rise of Skywalker I admit I get pretty emotional. They bring me back to that first one and watching it with my sister. Cancer took her from us 19 years ago, thus the emotions. How I wish I could watch this one with her. So, I get the next best thing. I am going to The Rise of Skywalker with my Sister's daughter and son, as well as with my kids. We all are really looking forward to it. I know there will be tears, sorta Goofy how a movie franchise can do that but we, my sister and I talked non stop about Star Wars as kids.
  14. Rogue One doesn't get a lot of love, but I really like that one. Have rewatched it a couple of times.
  15. After 3 years of almost never playing the driver and not even having a 3 wood (thought a long time that my 3 hybrid is my 3 wood 😃) I decided that buying a different driver and 3 wood with stiff shafts would be the answer. So the last 5 rounds I purposely hit my driver on every hole that was longer than my possible drive. And man it is fun. For the first time in my life I’m near the green with my first shot on some shorter par 4s, I can actually try to get on a par 5 in two (still hasn’t happened but it’s bound to) and I have cut the corner over the trees several times now. Par 4 holes that used to be 4 iron 4 iron for me are now (when it works) driver - 7 iron or shorter. And that works wonders. And par 4s that were 4 iron - 7 iron are now driver - wedge. It’s much easier hitting greens with wedges than mid irons...
  16. My hole in ones were my most, luckiest shots I ever hit. I suppose my "1 in a million" shot was on an island 150 yard par three. I hit my tee shot short, into the the water. I dropped for a three, and holed that shot for a 1 in a million par. Over the years, I have seen all kinds of both good, and bad weird shots. Probably could write a short book on them all. I saw a guy hit what appeared to be a poor, pushed shot on a 520+/- yard, par 5. The ball hit the concrete cart path, and because of the curbing, stayed on the cart path, with the ball rolling to with in 20, or so yards of the green. He then pitched the ball into the hole for a 3 under 2 on that hole. Another time, I took a good friend golfing. He had never golfed before. Hadn't ever touched a club that I knew of. The day before our round, I gave him a few pointers to help him out a little.. On the very first hole he ever played, he makes a hole in one. It was witnessed by two other golfers, besides myself. He went on to shoot something in the 140s iirc. I don't think he ever went golfing again.
  17. Have you not been paying attention? Wisconsin has allowed three freaking points in the first half TOTAL over six games. They have 4 shut outs over 6 games...and have only allowed 29 points in 6 games! Their defense has scored as many touchdowns over six games is they have allowed all of their opponents to score! And they have a Heisman Trophy candidate running back. I understand that the SEC thinks that the sun rises and sets on their ass, but all you have to do is look at what happened to Georgia today to understand that that ain’t so!
  18. Sounds like they have inflated egos. If you want to get them to be realistic, make sure they give you the 13 strokes between yours and theirs. I bet they balk at that idea. I bet they say they drive the ball 300 yards on average too.
  19. I have read the book many times. The book is actually a masterpiece, to my pov. It has so many insights and presents his system in the most precise manner imaginable. I don't understand the detractors. I share insights from it with players better than myself with low handicaps and more technical approaches (body oriented swings) and they're always stunned by Manuel's insights. Not to say it is for everyone. I would suggest people watch the videos. I am a reader and some people are not but I would say it is important to read the book to recommend it. I just wish I had met the man. Extraordinary teacher and I am grateful for what he contributed, and to my game. Am much more accurate now and enjoy not being in the woods, wasting time with positions and all kinds of questionable golf advice. My two cents.
  20. Here's a brief video on golf pitching technique. Over the years this thread has gotten a LOT of updates, so I encourage you to read through this thread before commenting. However, one thing that hasn't changed is our belief in how this simple technique can save strokes and make pitching easier and even fun. This technique broadens the margin of error by using bounce or "glide" on the club, while allowing you to properly use speed to help control distance, get the ball out of tough lies, and get the ball closer to the hole. It is, by far, the best pitching technique out there, and is exhibited by the best PGA Tour players. There are plenty of testaments to its functionality throughout this thread (and site), so please enjoy, and thank you for watching.
  21. One of the guys in my club had this exchange with someone a few years ago. I'm sure he's not the only one who has had this exchange during a golf tournament. He says something to indicate he thinks what the previous person said for his score for a hole wasn't accurate. "Are you questioning my integrity?" "No, I'm questioning your math skills." ------ As I like to say, there are some people so used to shaving strokes that if they ever make an ace, they'd instinctively tell you to write down zero.
  22. I’d go with this. You’re at a point where it’s one of the highest improving curve. Don’t be too convinced it’s the clubs that are making your improvements. If you’re making swing changes/progress you’ll probably see some variation in your ball striking so don’t attribute too much of it to the clubs you’re using. That being said the driver is an important club and you have to feel comfortable with it. There are great deals on older models out there. Cheers!
  23. The Talent Code is a good book, but the message it preaches is quite simple: to become great at something, some ways seem to be better than others. Whether you're a violinist, a soccer player, or a tennis player, you can practice things in a way that makes you improve faster than mindlessly playing songs, kicking balls, or turning on the automatic ball server. Take for example the story of a violinist that stood out to me. Upon learning a new piece, this violinist would play the notes without regard for pace, duration, tempo, or artistry. She'd take the sheet music and simply play the notes in the proper order. It rendered the song unrecognizable. When she encountered a tough part - a tough finger change or something - she'd slow down even more and practice that part again. She'd start at the beginning of the song, play through until she made a mistake, and restart. Each time she'd get farther into the song and the more she played a particular section the more like the song it would sound because she'd played it - correctly - tens or hundreds of times before. This process took weeks. She might spend an hour working on a particular three-note sequence. Towards the end of the time she was technically proficient enough that she could use her "educated hands" to add "artistry" or "feeling" to the notes. The violinist succeeds fastest and makes the greatest progress by making thousands of tiny mistakes but instantly correcting them. This converts those thousands of errors into thousands of successes or, if you prefer, thousands of learning experiences. The violinist was constantly practicing at the edge of her ability, and in doing so, keeps expanding her talent's horizon. Golfers, by and large, suck at practice. The better players will tend to do more than "hit some wedges to loosen up, then hit 50 drivers in a row and leave" but not much. A guy was hitting some balls in our downtown building the other day. He's a +1 or so, and he was hitting the ball poorly. He said "I just don't have it today. It doesn't feel right." So why was he hitting balls? I doubt he could have told you. "Because" isn't a good answer! Instead of mindlessly hitting balls hoping to "find" something, we told this guy to work on a drill. Make the longest swing he could make, the fastest he could make it, feeling that it was completely under control and that felt right. If that was a four-yard chip shot, so be it. Build up from there. Practice at the edge of your ability, not beyond it. That day, this player's talent horizon had shrunk a bit, so he was doing himself no good practicing beyond the edge of it. He was learning nothing from his failures except that if he kept it up, he'd continue to fail. There was no learning, and thus, no success. A near-scratch golfer responded that he hates working on the range because he feels like a 20 handicapper, and my response was perhaps a bit too firm in saying that he was practicing wrong. Oftentimes, I'll be perfectly happy to hit shanks, top the ball, hit it thin, or otherwise hit some terrible looking shots so long as I'm improving (or often exaggerating) certain moves. In that sense, the moves I'm making are equivalent to the violinist's fingerings, and the unrecognizable song is the shank or cold top. In that thread, I said "simple, slow, and short." I'm adding a fourth and a fifth "S" word to the list: "specific" and "success." Simple - It's absolutely critical to boil down the thing you're working on to its most basic state. Specific - "I want to improve my footwork" is not specific. "I want to bank my right foot inward more to prevent my right knee from kicking in towards the golf ball on my downswing" is better. Slow and Short - These two go together and speak to practicing at the edge of your ability. If you're changing the way your right elbow works in transition, you're not going to do this at speed. If you're working on how your wrist hinges from P1 to P2, why swing past P2.5? Just swing to P2 - slowly - and chip the ball. Success - If you can have a simple, specific idea, and practice it with slow and/or short swings at the edge of your ability, constantly making small mistakes with instant corrections, you'll have success with every swing you take. One thing I didn't exaggerate in the post I made: when I'm working on something (which is virtually any time I'm not "warming up" for a round): My pace drops substantially. I'll hit one ball every few minutes. The time between is spent looking in the mirror, at the video, rehearsing a practice move, or thinking. I don't care about distance, direction, contact quality, etc. I'll almost never hit a ball over 75-80% of its normal distance. Most often, because I'm reasonably skilled, my shots will still be "okay" because I can "find the golf ball," but one of the best swings I've made (and posted) resulted in a cold shank. I have faith in my ability to change the swing and then very quickly "find the golf ball" again. Develop that faith in yourself, just as the violinist has faith in her ability to speed things up and still hit the notes. When you're practicing properly, the song may be unrecognizable, but you're doing the right things and improving the fastest.
  24. Installed Pure grips on my clubs and they are still in "like new" condition after 250 rounds. Feel great, excellent gripping hold when playing. Many NP Cup members wrote reviews after having their clubs gripped at the Pure facility in Phoenix. Pure Grips Review They can be purchased at - Pure Grips They are well worth a few bucks more....
  25. PURE grips look interesting. I still remember the review @iacas did on them like 10 years ago. Its about time for me to regrip my clubs, but I don't know if the additional cost for the PURE grips is worth it. I can get Golf Pride Tour Wraps (the grips I have now) for about $5.00 a grip. PURE Grips are going to run me about about $9.00. Anyone that uses them have an opinion? Are they worth the extra cost?
  26. If we are just including men as players: Woods, Nicklaus, Snead, Palmer If we are expanding it to men and women as players. Woods, Nicklaus, Snead, Mickey Wright.
  27. If they're lazy, they don't do the aeration at all. Since they've done it twice in a short time period, I'd guess that there's a specific issue that they're trying to address. In our area, this is prime grass-growing weather, so this is a good time to plant new seed, and a good time for greens to heal. If its me, I'd ask about it, hoping to learn something.
  28. Great advice. Take the 100 shooter and focus solely on putting, transforming that player into a PGA Tour caliber putter and you'll have someone who shoots 95 with 30 putts per round. Good luck breaking 90.
  29. If I am playing as a single walker, and the course takes my money, I don't worry about other groups on the course. First off I am never in hurry. If the group in front slows me down, it's no big deal. I can wait. If someone wants to play through, or join me, that's not a problem either. The idea that allowing other golfers to dictate, or manipulate my game just never crosses my mind. I am out there for fun and relaxation. No one is going to ruin that for me.
  30. Time on course? Really? That's hilarious. If I'm waiting behind people I'm going to finish my round in the same amount of time if I play 2 balls or 1. Heck I have played two balls and still had to wait. You are paying for a tee slot on the course. Whether there is 1 or 4 of you in the tee slot you get the same exact amount of time to play. I've even been told by the person in the clubhouse "it's going to be a bit slow out there, you may want to play two balls" more than once when checking in as a single. And if the course is wide open taking more time is hurting nobody. Never once called any names, that's also a strange thing to say. Hate may be strong but I don't mean it in the literal sense either, just some of what you have said in this thread seems like you have some serious dislike for singles. Which I can't understand.
  31. If the single is playing two balls in order to keep their pace slowed down in order to not run up on the group in front, especially knowing there isn't room to play through, it makes just as much sense also. I don't get the hate or attitude of people like @gregsandiego have towards singles on the course. Singles are typically the more dedicated of golfers because we will still go play if we don't have a group to go with.
  32. Almost every golf course will have signs posted (it might be a requirement, I just know every course I've been to posts it at the entrance and the front counter) if they have recently sprayed a pesticide or an herbicide on the course. If it has been recently sprayed and your dog enjoy munching on grass (my Bernese used to enjoy snacks of grass, which were shortly returned to the lawn afterwords) I would hold off for a little while before playing with the dog on the course just to prevent them from eating grass that had recently been treated. As for the concerns about walking on the grass, I wouldn't be worried about it. If you want to make sure it's fine you could rinse/wash the paws of your dog once you've finished your round (most courses have hoses to wash carts that they would let you borrow if needed). Overall though it wouldn't be any worse than if you were to walk your dog on the grass of most any public park. In my city, at least, the pesticide/herbicide schedule is the same for the parks as it is for the golf courses since both are managed by the same division of the city. The herbicides/pesticides, however, should not harm your dog to walk on. The course I previously worked at had an assistant superintendent who had a black lab that was with him all the time on the course. Every morning you'd go out and see him driving from green to green, to cut pins and water, and you'd see Ace chasing behind the cart. The dog loved the exercise and being out on the golf course, with no ill effects even on the weeks when herbicide and pesticides had been recently applied. As for the idea of whether or not a dog "belongs" on the golf course, it is a non-issue (as you probably already know) for service animals. Coincidentally I actually had a service dog come into the pro shop I work at while I was typing this response, which was pretty funny timing. The only issue I could see you potentially having is that your dog may be startled when you swing a golf club near it, so I would make sure to double check that it's okay with you swinging somewhat close to it before you head out and play.
  33. I've seen a lot of superintendents with a faithful dog that has free reign on the golf course, and I know some golf courses use dogs to chase away the geese… so I'm not sure the pesticides are a big issue, or the super's dogs wouldn't be out there. Heck, the super has a dog at Chautauqua Golf Club.
  34. Face balanced, toe hang… it doesn't matter much. Perhaps you just aim your putter to the left.
  35. He also bends over to get the ball out of the cup 18 times a round! He should practice that too!
  36. Thanks, this is very informative.. Do you happen to have a picture of what the worn out glove should really look like with a correct grip?
  37. That hasn't been my experience. I've seen the opposite more, as a strong grip that's bowed will be even more shut at the top of the backswing. A strong grip is naturally more cupped than arched at setup as well. I encourage individual diagnoses on these types of things. Some players feel the grip is strong and the face a little "shut" so they cup their wrist to help keep the face open a bit (Fred Couples - strong grip, cupped at impact and top of the backswing), others let it arch (Dustin Johnson, not that his grip is particularly strong).
  38. Spending three hours on putting would be a complete waste of time. What the heck can you do on the putting greens for three hours anyway? You'd be bored out of your mind. Would recommend you read the first post in the thread and this one. Improving your long game (full swing) is what lowers your scores. http://thesandtrap.com/t/58816/65-25-10-practice-ratios-where-to-devote-your-practice-time/324#post_911781 And these http://thesandtrap.com/t/14930/is-the-long-game-more-important-than-short-game/144#post_914889 http://thesandtrap.com/t/14930/is-the-long-game-more-important-than-short-game/90#post_914540 http://thesandtrap.com/t/14930/is-the-long-game-more-important-than-short-game/72#post_914432 http://thesandtrap.com/t/14930/is-the-long-game-more-important-than-short-game/72#post_914442
  39. Fair enough to offer your opinion. Just don't pretend it's a fact. YOU think the 58-60˚ is very difficult to hit consistently. I never found that to be true. I got my 60˚ when I was probably a 13-14. It was instantly and BY FAR my best greenside club. As I've gotten better I've gone back to mixing it up more and taking shots around the green both with my 54˚ and 60˚, but the 60˚ is still my go to club more often than not. I don't get the oh so careful with the 60˚ advice. If you take a fat swing and clump the ball 10 yards, it's still gonna be a fat ugly clumper with a PW or GW, no? Maybe it'll go a bit further, but it's still not gonna be the shot you want. And a thin shot is a thin shot. I feel like the only added danger is actually exactly when the ball is sitting up, cause then with a 60˚ it's easier to basically whiff and slide the club totally under the ball and just sort of fluff the ball up with the grass a yard or two.
  40. I look in front of the ball to wear I want my divot. Bobby Clampett's, "The Impact Zone" describes this in detail. I think it helps me shift my weight forward more consistently.
  41. the point is that if your right hand and left hand are not 'palms facing' then you'll have an issue keeping the club on plane. If your right hand is in a stronger position than your left the club will not hinge correctly shutting the face and pulling the shaft inside your hands eventually this will end up being across the line but also pointed more towards the sky.
  42. Nothing against it. In fact, the Precept Lady was a pretty popular ball, especially for older men with slower swings but many didn't like hitting a ladies ball so they came out with the Precept Laddie... pretty much the same ball.
  43. If you have a really strong grip, you would actually need a some cupping to get he face square. If you have a really strong grip plus a flat left wrist at the top, the clubface will likely be really closed.
  44. We could win what? Golf, as a sport, probably has some of the least athletic people playing it on a regular basis (bowling notwithstanding). If the "average" high handicapper plays other sport as poorly as they play golf, I can see why they've quit all other sports and now focus on golf. People are joining clubs, entering tournaments, and playing for money by using a handicapping system that rewards terrible play - as long as it's consistent. I've played with some very unathletic "golfers" (people with no coordination of any kind) in the past 20+ years who honestly believe that with the right equipment and enough range balls they'll excel. Golf isn't any harder than tennis, hockey, or any number of other sports, but a lot of us sure do suck. Why don't more rec hockey players copy the style of Mario Lemieux? Because . . . we . . . suck!!
  45. Thats funny... I have also just started looking a bit ahead or the ball too! It really helped my consistency.
  46. I have to really concentrate to hit good iron shots. In my head I am telling myself to aim in front of the ball to ensure that I hit down on the ball. It works for me and has really improved my iron striking.
  47. I have had chronic problems with this for several years. My doc said cortisone a bad idea. He feels this is one of the reasons there are so many torn tendons in pro sports these days. The doc helped me develop my routine. Ice before and after play or practice, wrist, forearm and elbow. Stretching several times a day, simple and only takes moments, strengthening off season. I believe limiting knock down and stinger type shots helps. Sawing off your follow through adds stress. I hit more draws and emphasize a full relaxed release when it starts coming back. I do feel graphite has helped also, less vibration and less weight. My doc advised complete rest for only one week, no golf but other activity to help maintain muscle tone.
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