turtleback
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About turtleback
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Kuchar Pays Caddie $5k, Is Shamed, Pays $50k
turtleback replied to Phil McGleno's topic in Tour Talk
Well, I guess that explains why tour players always want local caddies rather than their own regular touring caddies /sarcasm. I'm old enough to remember when the Masters did not allow players to use their regular caddies and insisted they use ANGC caddies. I remember all the glowing stories about how a poor black caddy helped his player win the Masters because of his local knowledge. And I also remember when they lifted the ban. And virtually every player who had a regular caddy brought him, eschewing the services of the ANGC caddies. Thereby proving by the best of all evidence, acting in their own best financial interest, that the whole local knowledge thing and all of the touching stories about ANGC caddies were complete BS. As is the notion that the caddy in question, or ANY local would be better than his regular one. Then why don't they all use local caddies? Due respect but their actions demonstrate the absurdity of this 'local caddies are better because of local knowledge' argument. -
Kuchar Pays Caddie $5k, Is Shamed, Pays $50k
turtleback replied to Phil McGleno's topic in Tour Talk
This whole incident encapsulates where we now are as a society. Private stuff gets made public by someone, usually of low or no accomplishment, trying to prove they are relevant and then a mob descends on someone who did nothing wrong and forces him to capitulate to their threats and demands. Old people (like me) often lament the fact that they aren't young anymore. But personally I'm glad I lived my life in the time period I have rather than living in the time period my kids will live most of their lives. Social media is essentially causing our society to have a nervous breakdown bordering on a psychotic break. -
Kuchar Pays Caddie $5k, Is Shamed, Pays $50k
turtleback replied to Phil McGleno's topic in Tour Talk
CNN had a misleading headline? I'm shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you. LOL -
I agree, just as Faldo is 2-0 the other way, in my opinion. Ken 'my God I've won the Open' Venturi is another interesting hat in this ring.
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Kuchar Pays Caddie $5k, Is Shamed, Pays $50k
turtleback replied to Phil McGleno's topic in Tour Talk
I really don't understand why a guy who did nothing but schlep around a bag for a week should expect more of a lottery ticket than he got. And I don't think he really did until people started whispering in his ear. 50 working days pay for a week of work would, in any other context, be considered quite generous. -
Kuchar Pays Caddie $5k, Is Shamed, Pays $50k
turtleback replied to Phil McGleno's topic in Tour Talk
I think it was when you said: We're not often in a position where someone helps us win $1.3M. -
Kuchar Pays Caddie $5k, Is Shamed, Pays $50k
turtleback replied to Phil McGleno's topic in Tour Talk
But, did he actually help? Interesting that no one has even considered the possibility that the guy may have been a bad, by tour standards, caddie. Maybe Kuchar paid him what he thought he was worth. How much is a club level caddy going to 'help' a successful tour player beyond the purely physical activity of carrying his clubs? Is he going to help read greens? Help with clubbing? Help in working out which shot option to take? Heck in another message someone said the guy didn't speak English - so how much help could he have been? There certainly were none of those discussions we sometimes get to hear between a player and his tour caddy. He was in the right place at the right time - but that doesn't mean that somehow he wins the lottery. Stupid? Maybe. But nothing bearing on Kuchar's integrity IMO. -
Kuchar Pays Caddie $5k, Is Shamed, Pays $50k
turtleback replied to Phil McGleno's topic in Tour Talk
Integrity also means doing what you say you will do, and I've seen 0 evidence that Kuchar didn't do what he said he would do. No one questions the integrity of the caddy, yet without him complaining about getting what he agreed to, there would be no story. So it is a 2-edged sword. There is a lot of virtue signalling in this thread about someone else's money. I just hope y'all are just as generous with your own money. -
His stretch was 2 years - Tigers was more than 10. Miller is clearly, IMO, in the top 5 of all time announcers. He is nowhere near the top 5 of all time players. Faldo had a much better playing career, but isn't anywhere near Miller's class as an announcer, IMO.
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I appreciate the kind words, but life is too short, and there are too many good books to read for me to waste my time on dreck like this.
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That's only supposed to happen to guys MY age, LOL.
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Who is this guy? What's his background? A Google search didn't turn up anything. Ah, never mind, his name is Bill Felber, not Farber. Not that a Google search turns up much about him. Some newspaper guy committing statistical malpractice. The one Amazon review said he was a local wit, but I think that is only half right. Seems pretty worthless considering the complete lack of detailed stat breakdowns from the past. And from what you said and the little bit out there he seems to have no clue about strength of field. In the unlikely event I find myself in a bookstore I'll glance at it. I can always use a good laugh.
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Yikes. Sounds like child abuse to me. Not to mention assault. And if someone did that to a kid of mine I would press charges to the maximum extent of the law. Hard to believe you are proud of this or think it is funny.
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Was it Tommy Bolt who said something like, 'some shots are just incompatible with the club remaining in your hands.'