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  1. OK how about "telephoto" or how about video replay, do you not understand what I am saying? Sorry about the quoting, I've probably been online so much longer than you and am used to quoting the old way. Thanks for bringing this to my attention moderator.
  2. >You do get that a caddie, a spectator, a fellow competitor, a rules official assigned to another group or off-duty, a camera man, etc. are all "outside information" too, right? Good point. In that respect yes that is true. But I would argue (and maybe be wrong) that the rules were not made expecting someone with a telephoto high speed sense would then be allowed to do their own review on plays and alter the outcomes of tournaments.
  3. >So now we'd all be happy seeing replays of the rules violation which won Lexi a tournament, because no one could report it? No, it would be just like any other major championship for other sports - guess what? People still live their lives afterwards. Why don't we go back and look at every single mark every play made in major championships and if we find something call them cheaters. There are plenty of bad calls to see over time. This doesn't diminish the players that won.
  4. >Would it have been better if she won the tournament, then this person posted on a public forum that she "cheated" to win? Yes, because that's what happens in almost every major sport on television - IFAIK she didn't have the intention to cheat. There's always some person saying the referee cheated or there was bad call over and over. Where does the infraction occur? 1 mm 1/2 mm ??? Even if it is spelled out, it's not right that someone can call in and do something like this. Go ahead and call in to an NFL championship and complain about a call? Call into a NBA championship and argue that you saw a foul. It doesn't happen. Where can we call/write to change the ability to call in to change a course of a championship? I'd rather change that then the flag rule and other rule changes. Why stop here? Every single time someone hits OB and replaces their mark - take an angle measurement and see if they put it in the "same" place. I bet they don't. They eyeball it. There are many things I dislike about golf, but TV viewers calling in is at the top for me.
  5. Wow, we got it good here. One of the courses you can play 9 walking from 10am. No problems - just walk in and go out when you can. Everyone plays with each other - the skill level is usually from 6 to 20 handicap - never had a problem playing there. Meeting good people there. I'll take it!
  6. It's so fun to play with strangers. Most of them are great to play with and you learn so much by watching them. Most public courses will pair you with strangers. After a while it's really fun!
  7. At one course here the starter is so nice he gets worried if I play alone just in case I get a hole in one! I have rarely had any problems as a single. I play at whatever pace the course gives me. If the people ahead are slow I just wait and chill. Golf is stressful enough as it is. Sorry to hear about those rude people. They must be rude in life as well.
  8. I just saw the thread on being able to leave the flagstick in. For me, that is a godsend. I KNOW I putt much better with the stick in! Lag putts as well - something about having more to see - rather than a small hole. Love it as a bogey golfer. Probably not so good for keeping the game the same.
  9. YES! That's probably it for me. I realized last night at the range that so much of my bad shots are affected by my right arm motion. Everything else being taken into consideration - for me, it's so important. Tempo, alignment etc... all important but that right arm motion for me - squares the club face. Yesterday was terrible - bad tempo and while every drive seems to be decent to pretty good - my irons are off. Still not hitting the greens reliably. For the final two holes, I hit a punch shot to the green on a par 5 and made birdie, then on the next par 3, I did what I call - swing in a circle thought and hit the green and made par which was good. But then I went to the range later and worked on accuracy and I found that when I made those bad shots, my right arm was "probably" the cause. Will have to see. What's happening is my overall full swing motion is really terrible for squaring the club face. Punch shots - at least I understand how to square that face, but overall swing - not so good to be more consistent.
  10. Golf is stupid. One day I am hitting the greens so easily. 184 yards out, I put it 5 feet to miss! But I was hitting so many greens and scoring very decently. I go out the next day and I can't even hit a single green. Well, one did hit the green but after hitting a tree and stopping for a tap in birdie. Crazy. I didn't hit any greens and was constantly trying to make a decent score and ended up with 87. It felt like 100. I didn't do anything different - just was playing a lot worse. I haven't played since then. Trying to pretend that the bad day was a fluke!
  11. Guessing, but most people are hitting a lot harder and also getting more tired during a round. Concentration wavers too. There is another factor. Your body "knows" what you should shoot and it's a major pain to convince it otherwise. It's so typical to have a horrible first round, then an awesome second round to make it up - but the final score is close to what you usually shoot. Vice versa. If you take a good look at your scores I bet the rounds are somewhat close to what you usually score at. To me the only way to improve is to focus on your weak spots and really improve them to the point where they start making a difference. We are in this thread because we have problems man.
  12. >Big change I have discovered is staying really connected on back swing, keeping my right arm tucked in I think you might have found what works for you which is just great. As long as you can repeat it and it doesn't hurt you - enjoy being consistent! I've been keeping notes for years and I noticed that the same "fixes" can apply over the years. The advantage of being older and stiffer is that there's only so much movement you can do with the body. I've been working on squaring the club face over above all else and along with wrists - turning over correctly, I have seen really good results. I'm not close to bogey golf right now - doing much better - but I know it can all change quickly. I used to really make mistakes when pitching but now I value club face (and path) over everything and even mistakes turn out pretty darn good. Before I was worried about weight on left, turn etc... and there would always be a big mistake somewhere. But if you value the club face over everything - ball flight laws - usually good stuff happens - well at least for me. When you hit the green, even putting starts getting better - so weird. ----------------------- > I'm just trying to get a swing that is on plane, not over the top, and square at contact. I just want to hit the ball straight as much as possible. Well, if you look around - lots of players play great that are not "on plane". Yes, you don't want to swing "way over the top" - your instructor will hopefully fix that. But I think that the "straight ball" is something all people think they want, but the truth is that it's almost impossible to do - especially for a beginner. Most people play a curve -and it's more doable. Some people play a fade and others play a draw - but rarely do they hit dead straight. Well at least that's what I see. I know there are some that hit a 1 or 2 yard draw from a far distance, but that's really hard. You are not talking about normal players.
  13. The problem (for me) that I see is that there are so many "ways to swing" and they all seem to contradict each other. It's truly amazing. But I fully agree on the ball flight laws so I think for the "average golfer" to enjoy golf, he needs a swing he can repeat and that keeps the ball in play. What you don't want is the uncontrollable swing that sends your ball OB. YES, short game, putting can kill you and make you a bogey golfer or worse, but nothing slows play and makes you feel lousy like sending a ball OB. So find a repeatable swing through lessons and if you can't do that, then pick ONE type of swing and see if it works for you. WRITE STUFF DOWN on the range - yes, hit the range. Write detailed notes on what and what is not working. Go back the next time, read your notes and try again. When you think you might have something going - then hit the course and read your notes and see if it works. If you get something going that is repeatable, you will get to the point where you can start forgetting everything and just play. If you start screwing up, check your notes. Now if you want to go beyond casual play - then I would take lessons at the earliest opportunity from the best teacher you can find. They tend to be very accommodating for juniors that want to be really great. All that being said, I found lessons to be really affordable and quite fun. I think that for better or worse, the same thoughts that make golfers buy a new driver and putter etc... especially when the putter is totally different are maybe the same type of thoughts that try different swings and "tricks" and thus starts the cycle of decay Most of the good retired guys I play with have a repeatable swing and old clubs. They have fun.
  14. I haven't seen those, but if you have the means to fund lessons, I agree that's the smoothest way to a grooved swing (with practice). My advice would be start early and take lessons. Now if you started late like me - I took lessons and really worked on things for a while but I got depressed with being so inconsistent. So I just went to the driving range and literally figured out what I could repeat for the time I allot to golf. I'll never be really good - too many limitations in importation areas. But from what I have seen on the course - the deal killers seem to be for the people that are frustrated: Over the top - slicing so bad - so many people slicing Bad hand/wrist action/follow through - uh.... I knew it was going right and it will all day Alignment - they aim so bad - then they wonder why the ball went there Anyway, the new ball flight laws should be a requirement hahahaha One point that might be missing from this thread is that despite "bogey golf" maybe being considered "junk golf", I have found it to be fine for general play for "regular" folks that just like to play golf. One 3 putt - bogey. Missed the green - missed the up/down - bogey. As long as you keep pace of play good - no one will care whether you made a bogey or par from what I have seen. Everyone will have a different threshold for crappy play, but what is painful is someone hitting it OB and taking forever to find the ball.
  15. Congratulations! If only so many people understood the action required to square the club face. That and coming over the top. You must be hitting it far if you only have wedges into greens! Wish I had that!
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