Dyna

What I meant by physical build was...it doesn't take biceps the size of WWE wrestlers or a massive chest to be a good golfer......look at Ernie Els & tell me he is buff. Sure it helps to be athletic but I have seen some fat out of shape guys who can play pretty damn well. A person can be built like the proverbial brick shit house but unless they have the technique or a God given talent to hit the ball well, they can easily be beaten by a scrawny 17 yr old kid.

Physical build doesn't have squat to do with it, experience & technique are key. Do Bubba Watson or Angel Cabrera look like weightlifters? Yet they will kick anyone on this boards ass with a 3 wood never mind a driver.

Very well may be the ranges are way off on actual yardage. +1 on the internet bullshit verification requirement.

I try to give folks the benefit of doubt but when you read posting after posting from people all who claim to be these long ball hitters, yet then go on & admit they shot a 100+...well exactly where are those long balls landing? 3 fairways over? Then you have the people who admit to hitting 2-3 in the water, lose a couple in the woods, etc & still pull a mid 40 out of thin air?? Now I am no golf purist by any stretch & certainly don't play by 100% PGA rules, but I do try & follow the majority of them. But then I also don't try & claim some ridiculously low score either, all you end up doing is cheating yourself. I'm done preaching. If folks want to believe they can outdrive the avg PGA tour pro, well they can have their fantasy. I still have my fantasy of Angelina

Thank you for the honest posting. I realize there are folks out there that can bomb out a drive 300+ yds, but on any number of golf related websites it seems like a large percentage of the posters are claiming to do just that...or at least real close to it. That flies in the face of testing done by magazines as well as what any number of us witness on a daily basis. 200 yd drivers unite & be proud of your status.

HUH? There are lots & lots of posters here who lay claim to shooting 100+ for 18 holes, is that better than average? Exactly what is average..serious question. I have good days & bad days....my bad are when I shoot 53-54 for 9 & my good days I squeak out a 44-45....I sure as hell dont consider myself better than average. Drive yardage on a net forum is really no different than the people who hang out in chat rooms where every guy is 6'4" & built & every women looks like Angelina Jolie, it's all hyped up, inflated, ego driven, etc. For those who lay claim to 285+ avg carry drives, good for you. The rest of us short hitters will have to do with simply hitting the fairway.

I have only seen 1 legitimate 300 yd drive from a non pro on the courses I play & that guy usually ends up slicing the hell out of his shot. The drive he put up was a fluke & he admitted there was probably no way he could duplicate it. I have no issues at all stating my drives are usually in the 200-220 range....I may get a 250 with a nice downhill roll & some wind. I prefer to keep them straight & in the fairway over possibly getting a good number but having 0% consistency. If someone is truly hitting avg drives in the 285-300 range without a roll, they should work on their short game & go on tour.

Is it true that the internet adds 30-40 yds to drives? Plenty of big hitters here putting up avg drive numbers of 285-300-320 yds, yet why is that the vast majority of folks I see playing are in the 190-220 range without roll?

I would agree with that, I see the vast majority of people at the range working on nothing but driver & woods shots, yet those actually only consist of a small portion of your game. Work on pitching & putting & you will see your score drop like a rock. Pitch it up near the pin & then either 1 putt or 2 at the worst, avoid the dreaded 3 putt & your score will become much lower. That being said I am in the same boat as you, I know how to do the shots & can execute them a lot of the time, just not consistently. I know it will come with time, more playing experience & simple plain practice. I will par or even birdie a hole then follow it up with a 7 on a par 4. Played 4 rounds in the last 10 days & didnt have anything worse than a 7 on any hole....until today when I screwed up 1 hole & ended up with an 8 & it pissed me off. But I quickly forgot about it & didnt let it bother me for the rest of the rd.

Hit my local course that I play the most & used the Bridgestone E-6's exclusively. Normally I dont even use my driver because I tend to fade it quite a bit so I stick to the 3 wood. Anyways I decided to use my driver, an Adams Tight lies & see how it worked out. Of 9 holes I used driver on 6 of them, 4 were dead nuts straight down the middle of the fairway & each one was about 220-230 yds....I am not a long ball hitter & never will be. The other 2 ended up with just a slight bit of draw & were just off the fairway. I have played the course every week for 3 months now & have not hit that many fairways & had them consistently fly that far. Maybe it's a placebo effect, maybe i'm just getting better, or maybe the Bridgestones actually do what they claim to do?

I want to consistantly hit 90 or better & never ever venture into the 100's again. 3 aspects of the game I need to work on are pitching, putting & confidence.

Shot a 48 on the front & 50 on the back at the Meadows of Six Mile creek today. 1st time on this course & I am used to fairways which are a lot wider & every green on this course is undulating.

Haven't read all the postings but my own personal opinions are. The range is fine to learn how to hit the ball, but how many people can actually bring their range game to the course? It's a whole different story when you have narrow fairways, trees, bunkers, people watching, etc. My boss took 4 weeks worth of lessons, hit the range a dozen times & when he went to the course for the 1st time he was horrible, shot something like an 84 & that was 9 holes. I believe the only way to get better is to play the game. What's with the snobbish attitudes that basically want to exclude those of us who aren't shooting in the low 80's right now? I agree with a basic dress code, I actually like to wear actual golf wear on the course, makes me feel more like a real golfer & not just some slob who doesn't care. Pace of play is hard to enforce since people do lose balls, do have to wait for the foursome playing in front of them, blah, blah. Normally when I go with the guys from work we can play 9 holes in under 2 hrs easily if the course is relatively empty. But go on a friday evening & it's not unusual to see 2.5-3 hrs for 9 holes. Took 4.5 hrs today for 18 but wasn't holding anyone up & the group in front of us was keeping pace as well.

Played 18 today at a course I hadn't been to yet. Slope rating of 121 with very narrow fairways, plenty of water & tall grassy areas to lose balls in. Didn't risk losing the Bridgestones on the tougher holes, leave those to the D2's of which I did manage to lose 3 today. Anyways I had a few really nice fairway shots with my 3 wood & the Bridgestone E-6's really seemed to get more distance than the D2's. Maybe it's just a placebo effect since I seriously doubt my own abilities or lack thereof to actually gauge a difference between balls. But as of right now I am sold on the E-6's & will be using them from now on. Oh yea score was nothing great, 48 on front & a 50 on the back but considering I have only been playing for 2 months I am relatively happy with that for now.

I have been using Top Flites D2 & yesterday picked up a box of Bridgestone E-6's & will try those out today. My game is nowhere near good enough for myself to justify spending $49 for a box of balls just to have them end up in the middle of a pond.

I do the same exact thing, i'm out there to have a good time & if the shots aren't happening...oh well. Make the most of it & try to get just 1 good hole or even just 1 good shot.

Tuesdays & Thursdays I shoot 9 after work. Saturdays a few of us play 18.

I have Accuity garbage right now, just picked up the game again 2 months ago after about a 15 yr layoff. I also picked up a used Adams Tight lies2 3 wood & it feels a lot better then the Accuity 3. Figured I would play with them for a couple months & see how it goes. Been working my scores down slowly where now I am shooting anywhere between 45-53 for 9. Going to pick up a set of Tour Edge clubs in 2 weeks, driver & irons, not sure on what woods to get yet.