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  1. So the R&A; says 208 and Trackman says 214.......actually that's less than one club's difference there .....your point being, I assume, that yet another reputable source (R&A;) chimes in with data supporting "Tee It Forward"? So we now have all credible sources: PGA, USGA, R&A; and Trackman saying essentially the same thing ! In any case, the average male adult amateur still does not warrant a course length much beyond 6,000 yards as the PGA/USGA clearly state. "tis but a difference without a distinction, eh? :) What's actually happening here , as Camilli points ou
  2. While the hard data does indeed allow for some exceptions, the problem, as Camilli's book points out , is alas, that far too many "Tom, Dick and Harry's" consider themselves exceptions . LOL Were there as many "exceptions" as those who consider themselves such, there wouldn't be the "rule" or "mean" now would there, eh? Again, gents, the numbers don't lie and Camilli's book cites a world-wide trackman study of over 10,000 golfers of all abilities which finds that the AVERAGE male amateur hits a drive
  3. Thank you, ccotenj.....what you post here is pretty much what Dan Camilli's book with it's PGA/USGA and Trackman rock solid data indicate, - the numbers don't lie, gentlemen and anyone attempting to compose some alibi or excuse for denying them is not in reality ......"kinda like you deciding to play Lebron James one on one" -and expecting to do well, no less! LOL Most courses are now renaming their tee boxes based on a color code thus eliminating much of the stigma of some who fret about hitting from "Senior" tees and the like and over time those old labels will fade into the past -
  4. Please do remember that not everyone plays under the same conditions in any tournament as the morning tee times often have advantage over PM tee times....in any event, methinks it's poor form for DJ to mouth off after 3 putting a 12 footer- sour grapes if you will -I doubt he'd said a word had he won, eh? LOL......if you recall Rory made a serious charge mid Sunday but then also missed putts and fell back yet again.....he didn't blame the greens, the golf gods or his putter....."We all have to putt on them" were his wise words....
  5. Methinks, 'tis rather bush league and whiney to blame the greens.....as Rory aptly pointed out - "They all had to putt on them." Time for DJ to put his big boy pants on and admit that he three putted from 12 feet .....no one else is to blame.
  6. So very true, indeed ! Dan Camilli devotes an entire chapter to this issue entitled : "Tee It Forward vs. Testosterone" in his book called "Tee Ceremony: A Cosmic Duffer's Companion to the Ancient Game of Golf". He points out that we "wouldn't expect Little League baseball players to hit home runs in a ball park with major league dimensions so neither should amateur golfers be expected to make par on Tour Professional length courses." Camilli then supports his position with data from the PGA which says "The 6.700 yard course that many amateur golfers play today is propor
  7. FYI: The topic of "Tee It Forward" is humorously discussed- complete with cartoons, in a new book by Dan Camilli entitled Tee Ceremony: A Cosmic Duffer's Companion to The Ancient Game of Golf . The book is a hilarious take on many aspects of the game including "Tee It Forward", Driving Distance Liars, Cigars , golf partners, etc. You can have a "Look Inside" the book at Amazon. A fun read ! FYI: I got my father and father-in-law a copy for Father's Day.
  8. Good News! Amazon.com has recently added a "Look Inside" feature to Camilli's Tee Ceremony book so you can read a sample of it and check out some of his cartoons in the book as well. Alas, I fear that my review has not done the book justice but now you can check it out for yourself. Simply go to: http://www.amazon.com/Tee-Ceremony-Duffers-Companion-Ancient/dp/1512242659/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid;=1432930780&sr;=8-1&keywords;=camilli and click on the "Look Inside" icon located above the book picture.
  9. I just finished reading "Tee Ceremony; A Cosmic Duffer's Companion to The Ancient Game of Golf " and loved it! Golf can definitely use more humor, IMO. This one was a birthday gift from my daughter. Here's my review of it. Golf Book Review by stogiesnbogies Tee Ceremony : A Cosmic Duffer’s Companion to The Ancient Game of Golf Sacred Ruminations and Profane Observations about Golf and Life By Dan Camilli Available at Amazon and BarnesandNoble.com http://www.amazon.com/Tee-Ceremony-Duffers-Companion-Ancient/dp/1512242659/
  10. Well, surf, as the OP of this thread I know that I speak for all posters when I say "You're Welcome ! " As for your getting down to 90 and then getting worse, it's been my experience that this is not so unusual as progress in this game is a series of peaks and valleys. Alas, you must slog on and persevere through the "slumps" no matter how discouraging and freakin' endless they may be and you will indeed come out the other side a better player. When in those deep dark valleys, I find it useful to re-examine fundamentals like ball position, grip, stance, etc. as it is very
  11. I've played a number of clone models and based on my experience with them I would recommend Pinemeadow golf as consistently best quality and performance. In fact I still play Pinemeadow brand fairway woods as they are easy to hit and far less expensive than most OEM brands. You might want to check out their website. Pinemeadowgolf.com Good luck .
  12. The USGA says that the average golfer in its system carries about a 15.0 handicap. This translates into an average score of about 90, close to that of a bogey golfer. But "Golf Digest" notes that most golfers don't participate in the USGA system. And because most golfers without handicaps are occasional players who generally shoot higher than 100, the official USGA average score is artificially low. The good news here is that, for most of us who shoot in the 80's regularly, we would be considered "good" players -as in better than average. The bad news here is , you guessed it......t
  13. FYI: I know several graduates of the Golf Academy and they do not speak well of it. They are now older college students attempting to acquire a "serviceable" education. While one, a Navy Vet, does have a job as a Golf Club teaching pro, he says that generally, the PGA certified programs lead to better career prospects and he was left with some 30 thousand dollars of debt! He also says that he would definitely not do it again and feels that he essentially wasted precious GI Bill Education money. I am only relating what I have been told by those who have attended .....the po
  14. The US Ryder Cup situation appears to be a train wreck from the point of both organization and frankly, at the moment, talent. The organization appears to be in a state of disarray and players feel free to criticize captains, both past and mostly present as well as the organization itself. As for the talent side of the ledger; frankly the Euros have a far more talented, and perhaps most importantly MOTIVATED cadre ...they are vastly more successful at working as a TEAM and everyone takes the Ryder Cup extremely seriously and considers it the biggest moment of the golf season. In
  15. As others are already saying; "to each his own" and if you feel comfortable with this set up, and it's producing results-so be it. However, you do realize that ALL of these wedges can be opened and closed providing you with a wide range of options? Perhaps you might consider fooling around with that concept on the practice range/green and seeing if you can feel comfortable hitting multiple shots with a few wedges simply by opening / closing , changing ball position, etc....Personally, I think you are vastly underestimating the versatility of these wedges. but hey that's my take -and
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