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  1. mvmac

    My swing (porc)

    First thing I would do is fix the grip. Looks very weak and making you setup with the right arm too straight and shoulders aimed too far left. Both of those things would encourage more of a left-ward path, meaning the club is swinging too much across the ball. The weaker grip (right hand on top) and super straight right arm would also encourage the club to work more inside the hands on the takeaway, another piece that can produce a left-ward path. Club works inward, you sense the weight of the head, know you have to get it back to the ball so there is a little steepening move to compensate.
  2. 73, 68 and 68 this weekend.
  3. Just want to clarify what I mean by trial and error. The instructor is there to identify the priority piece and offer suggestions on how to accomplish it but to make a significant change/improvement the player has to be the one to internalize the cue. Let's say I'm working on getting my torso to tilt more on the backswing, instructors might say stretch the right side higher. It's up to the player to take that suggestion and customize it to a feel or visual that works best for them (and obviously changes the picture to what the instructor wants). I actually think "See and Feel the Inside Move the Outside" was fairly simple, when compared to most golf swing books. It basically comes down to how the shoulders moves a few inches and the effect it has on everything else. Overall great book, in my top ten, probably ahead of its time.
  4. To answer your question, it's neither, figure out the piece that is leading to the most domino issues and fix that. If we all had to look like Adam Scott to play decent golf no one would break 90. Matt Wolff has a very unorthodox looking swing but has had a swing coach for several years. Regardless of textbook or unorthodox, both will share similar traits with how the body moves and how the club is delivered. You're working off an assumption that there is a "proper" way to go about learning a "golf swing". I think at the end of the day for most good players, it requires both. Some good instruction with plenty of trial and error. No one can teach you a competent golf swing. A good instructor can guide you or get you started but you have to take ownership of it. It's how we learn.
  5. Great post @iacas Just filmed this to show what a "push" would be.
  6. 70 and 68 this weekend, greens were punched/sanded. Hit 16 greens yesterday and 15 today. Could have gone low yesterday. Started tracking my strokes gained putting for fun. Here's yesterday, And today,
  7. Some practice and driver swings from yesterday. Hitting it solid.
  8. @hoselpalooza, you're too focused on what people are saying and not what the data shows. Think about this with some common sense. 1. In order to "push" you have to have some flex in your leg, correct? 2. Does the trail leg gain flex or reduce in flex into transition? Did you read what the guy said? First he says max pressure left arm parallel on the backswing, which it's either there or A2.5, Then he says, How can you push hard at the top of the backswing after having the max pressure at left arm parallel? And still have the pressure numbers 50/50? Doesn't make sense. I think "push" might mean something different to him than what we are talking about. I almost wonder if he's thinking about a shearing force. This clip here is very much what @iacas has been saying about the core controlling the movement forward on the downswing. Not much opinion here, these guys are just measuring, the pressure on the ground and the body segments. This is at :25 and just after, not seeing it. He is gaining flex and lifting his trail heel, literally the opposite of a "push". Nope, I used these,
  9. @hoselpalooza you seem to be ignoring these videos and going by what you feel is happening. You also mentioned power players pushing off the trail foot, here is Sadlowski, maybe the longest players in the world pound for pound and you can see he's clearly not pushing off in transition. The force vector is getting smaller and it's at its smallest where you think players "push off".
  10. Recent stuff. Feeling more of what Mario describes below because if you follow this thread I have a tendency to lower my head on the takeaway which causes sequencing issues with rotation, wrist set, shaft inclination and momentum, right off the bat. Feeling more of that "upload" trigger move here, So my play/stock swing where I'm just hitting shots can have the head staying more level, like this swing. @Grizvok, @Slim_Pivot Email from Shaun Webb, reiterating the images with the boxes.
  11. This guy use to be a professional dancer and his instructor (Mario) is amazed at how good his proprioception is but he still has to exaggerate to get to a happy medium with his swing. I watched a lesson of theirs the other day and Mario had to stand to his side, risk getting hit unless Nate changed the piece. He had to do this because they had been working for a few days to change this piece and Mario needed to get extreme with it. So even someone who was a professional dancer with great proprioception has to deal with "feel ain't real".
  12. If it's BS then swing changes would be easy and we wouldn't need to exaggerate any feels. I think the best players of all time are aware it's not BS.
  13. I think we have to be careful posting still photos and "feels" to describe what is actually happening. Since this is off topic I'll respond here,
  14. In the left pic the sternum is "behind" the belt buckle and the right one the sternum is "on top" of the belt buckle. Easier to fire the arms down in the right pic and potentially create more speed. Left pic could lead to more pushes and over-draws. I like it because it helps me rotate a little with my mid-torso and get my shoulders close to level. Also puts my wrists in a position that I like.
  15. Grab an alignment stick, take your putting stance with your palms facing away from you and bend the stick in a way that would bring your elbows closer together. Similar feeling to the start of a deadlift.
  16. 72 at TPC Summerlin on Friday. Then fun tournament in Vegas Sat-Mon, each course was played at around 6000 yards. 66 at Red Rock Arroyo, 66 at Bali Hai and 69 at TPC Vegas.
  17. Like I said, I can only speak for my swing/tendencies. Someone else might have to feel the complete opposite. Like @DaveP043 said, start a swing thread and get help specific to your move. Having said that I do agree it is popular in instruction right now to be more body focused and passive with the arms. All I can say is that in reality the arms aren't "passive" in the swing but the body sequencing and positioning is important to fully utilize the arms. Here is a good example of a player into the downswing, the body positioning on the right is going to allow the player to "use" his arms more effectively than the left pic.
  18. Yes, very active on the backswing and downswing. Like how I was demonstrating in those videos, more lift on the backswing and trying to throw the club head out on the downswing. Obviously specific to my tendencies.
  19. Yes. I tend to draw it from a square stance but I am trying to hit more "power" fades off the tee. There are a few holes on my home course where I have to fade it (or curve it more than a fade) and I'm comfortable doing it. I always seem to hit a good drive on one of those holes. Played Torrey South yesterday and it's a course that favors a little fade off the tee and was happy with a lot of the drives that were either straight or fading a bit. I don't try to do anything different with the swing, just aim my body left and make sure the ball is a little more forward for the fade. Played in a tournament a month ago where there were a few holes where driver might have been too much club or I had to hit a really solid 3-wood. I chose to hit "bunt" drives instead, choked down halfway, aimed my body left and felt like I made a 3/4 backswing. Hit it great every time, tend to prefer that over hitting 3-woods off the tee.
  20. I would avoid a lot of what that video advises. Rolling the clubface typically isn't a good way to go for hitting a draw. It's also a tough way to play by manually swinging out to the right. An outward path is just a result of other pieces being in place well before impact. For a draw, clubface closed to the path, yes, but the face should be pointed to the right of the target. Ball starts where the face is pointed and curves away from the path.
  21. 67, 72 and 71 (Torrey South) this weekend. Last week played in an alternate shot tournament and took home some hardware. Wore my Newport Cup/TST belt 👍
  22. If you follow the swing thread you know I'm always working on getting less shallow/more steep on the downswing but only made minimal gains mechanically. To see if I can really change it I've been wanting to experiment with a couple things and got to run it by my buddy Mario a few weeks ago. Cool thing is he agreed and funny thing is it was what he wanted to try with me as well. Here is the change to the pattern, also ties into the hand ascending and steeper hand path pieces. Obviously these components are specific to me, Mario laughs that I'm the only player he gives these feels to and would prefer it if I didn't share because he thinks it'll hurt his business 😛 A piece that was left out that we are also working on is trying to do more "work at the hip" on the backswing, more internal rotation at the hip joint. Tendency is to rotate the right femur more external, pelvis turns a little flat and then the leg kicks internal hard and fast, causing me to tip back and flip. If I can get more internal work going, I'll be able to move the pelvis down and away from the leg in transition (internal to less internal). Doing that by setting up with the right knee more bowed out (was getting it kicked in, not on purpose) and feeling like the left knee "holds" until my right hand passes my right thigh. Here I am focusing on that along with some downswing rehearsals. Club head "tumbling" out on the downswing, not way under at 5.5-7. Mechanically I think this is the best my putting has ever looked and it's been pretty good on the course the past several months. Mostly working on setup stuff. Shoulders level, arms external feeling, lats packed, right hand controlling the stroke, underhand release feeling of the putter.
  23. 71, 66, 72 this weekend.
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