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  1. phan52

    Failure To Include an Unknown Penalty

    My biggest pet peeve at my club is players participating in competition and not knowing the rules. I am constantly correcting the players in my group but I also know that no one is policing a lot of the groups in the competition. In the vast majority of cases they are certainly not trying to gain an advantage but that is beside the point. I play by the rules and so should they. When I was Golf Chairman I would direct the pro staff to make sure that someone in each foursome had a a rudimentary knowledge of the rules because they know the serious players from the causal golfers and they should never put four casual golfers together in a competition. That isn't done anymore and all I can do is shake my head when I scan the tee times and see four knuckleheads in a foursome.
  2. I hear ya. We'll see how it goes. I even have the habit of taking out the pin on the putting green when I am practicing because it reflects the conditions when I play. Maybe that will change for me with the new rule.
  3. I'll deal with my way, you deal with it yours. I doubt it will make much difference. If i hit a good putt it will go in. If I make a bad stroke it won't. The vast majority of putts that we all miss either hit edges or don't hit the hole at all and the pin would have zero effect. But I can just hear you now, when your putt hits smack in the middle of the pin and goes in. "See, what'd I tell you!"
  4. . Well, the concept of the new rule leaving the pin in has nothing to do with making or missing putts. It's only about faster play. I will react accordingly. Rather than wait until someone gets to the pin to remove it on my longer putts, I'll putt away. But when I am close and lining up a putt I will do as I always have and remove the pin.
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    Is pace of play (or slow play) a real problem?

    I can agree with that. The familiarity I have with my course makes me feel that four hours is too long, but there is not much I can do about it when the course is busy and they are playing at the accepted pace. It just feels a bit tedious. Example, we played last week and waited to hit on most fairways and on every par 3 tee box, but we still played in 4:05.
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    Favorite Thing About Golf

    On the days when my swing is right and I am making consistent solid contact, there isn't much better. It may be a rare thing for me, but is is sweet thing.
  7. phan52

    Is pace of play (or slow play) a real problem?

    You and I are going to have to agree to disagree, particularly playing through a group. I have done it and it alway adds a lot of time ot a round. If I can get around them, that's the better option. And I understand that 4 hours is an accepted time. I pointed out at 4;08 is the accepted time at our course. That doesn't mean it isn't slow. When the course isn't busy, any group I am in never play in more than 3:30, and usually less. We play when ready. Get to ball, hit the ball. Why should I wait to hit my ball if the guy who is away hasn't got to his ball yet? Like I said, JMO. Hit when ready.
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    Johnny Miller's Legacy

    I remember Miller as a player and saw him play live many times and I even caddied in a group with him for two rounds on the Tour back in the 70's (I had Jerry McGee's bag). But his broadcasting career is what I will remember most because I think he was the best.
  9. I have hit the pin many times from off the green and my experience is that it is totally random whether it goes in the hole or not. I know i will remove the pin when I putt.
  10. phan52

    Is pace of play (or slow play) a real problem?

    We don't have tee times, it is first come. first served, and those groups were already on the course when we got to the tee box. And I totally disagree about playing through TWO groups, as that would have added at least a half hour to our round. I was perfectly happy to start on 3 and play the first two holes at the end. We often have people who start on the back nine and the rule of thumb is to rotate in with any groups that may be on the first tee. It is an accepted policy and never an issue. And sorry, 4:08 is slow. JMO.
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    What'd You Shoot Today?

    A tale of two nines. 40-47-87. And the 40 could have been better as I three putted twice.
  12. phan52

    The Match: Tiger vs. Phil Showdown for $9M

    I would be interested if they were putting up their own money. Otherwise . . . meh . . .
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    Is pace of play (or slow play) a real problem?

    Yesterday there was a group on one and a group on two that the starter told us were both a bit slow and he recommended that we just go out to three and get ahead of them. We did that and finished 18 holes in 3 hours and 25 minutes, had a drink at the grill and left before those two groups even finished. Golf should not take four hours to play but that is the accepted time at our club, actually 4:08.
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    What'd You Shoot Today?

    Bad 87. Two balls OB and only 3 fairways hit. I can't drive the ball in play anymore.
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    2018 Tour Championship - FedExCup Finale

    I thought Rory getting into the final group would be to his advantage but it didn't turn out that way. Both he and Rose had difficulty finding the fairway all day on a course with the most penal rough I have seen this side of a US Open. Tiger hit it straight and was methodical. Welcome back!
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    What tee to play from?

    Tees at my club: Black 6902 White 6494 Blue 6210 Green 5947 Red 5647 Yellow 5151 We are eliminating one of the tee boxes this winter, probably the Red. That was traditionally the women's tee but it was too difficult for most of them (73.9/135 for women) so they all now play from the Yellow. Green was traditionally the Senior tee but a lot of Seniors resisted moving up so we went to colors afew years back. The Blue tee is new and is the original yardage for the course when it was built in 1908. It eventually was stretched to 6902 (Black) with the regular mens tee (White) being 6494. I love the Blue tee and play there a lot, but I have to make sure to play as much as I can from the White because that is where we play all the tournaments. If I play too much from the Blues I end up having a problem from the White.
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    Home course flyover

    The Golf Association of Philadelphia just produced this flyover of my home course, Whitemarsh Valley Country Club. It is the site this week of the Philadelphia Amateur Championship (for a record 15th time). Whitemarsh Valley was also the site of a PGA Tour event from 1963-1980 (IVB Golf Classic), won by the likes of Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicklaus (3 times), Tom Weiskopf, Billy Casper and Tom Kite. You can find a reference to it in the book, The Greatest Game Ever Played by David Frost. Whitemarsh Valley was the first course that Harry Vardon and Ted Ray played when they came over to play the US Open in 2013. Does anybody have flyovers of their home courses? Why not post them here?
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    2018 U.S. Open at Shinnecock Hills

    It's going in the other direction. Gone from +9 to +7 in the last hour.
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    2018 U.S. Open at Shinnecock Hills

    There are 8 posted scores in the red so far. DJ has two of them (69,67).
  20. 5 seconds, tops, once you are over the ball. The time consuming thing that I find in a round of golf is that players aren't ready to hit when it is their turn. Get to your ball and be ready when you are up.
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    Faster Play - Is It Hurting the Game?

    I believe I shot my worst round in about 12 years yesterday but we still played in 3:50. Would have been less if we didn't have to wait for the group in front about 5-6 times. Shooting higher scores don't mean you have to take longer to play. Hell, yesterday I wanted to get off the course as fast as I could. Tomorrow is another day.
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    2018 U.S. Open at Shinnecock Hills

    Right now the projected cut is +9. Tiger at +10 might still get to play the weekend after that finish.
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    2018 U.S. Open at Shinnecock Hills

    Second hole in a row where Justin Thomas had to bail on his swing because of some idiot with a smart phone. This thing may be over. DJ is not the guy you want to be chasing on that golf course. Maybe some guys in the afternoon can close the gap, but my guess is that DJ is going to have to come back to the field a little this weekend to make this interesting.
  24. We didn't communicate about it and our opponents didn't say anything either. In fact my partner, who knew nothing about the rules, thought we lost the hole because I hit his ball.
  25. I always want to mark my ball and I also always wait for someone to mark theirs, particularly in a tournament. I did utilize backstopping once years ago in a better ball match. I was pitching from off the green and my partner's ball was a few feet from the hole and I didn't wait for him to mark it, mainly because he was still about 20 yards away. I hit his ball and mine stopped a foot from the hole, and we won the hole. I don't think THAT would be considered cheating, as it was match play.

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