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MacDutch last won the day on June 6 2017

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  1. MacDutch

    Stableford scores and sandbagging

    Yes it is out of the norm. It only happens once in 389 rounds. See the statistics provided in the links above. There also is a big difference between the probability between a score of 40,41,42 and better scores. Your handicap should reflect your golf-abilities. If people seldom play qualifying rounds, and play a lot of practice rounds, their handicap could well be off. This is called sandbagging.
  2. MacDutch

    Stableford scores and sandbagging

    @Shorty your rule of thumb is way of. If a course is changed ( for example more then 150 meters shorter) you can not use it for handicap reasons. So I understand why your eyebrows don’t raise but thats because it looks like you use the system incorrect. Also I told that the wheather was good, but thats common here in Andalusia. We played from the official tees, which we allways do when playing competition. Check the links other people gave here to get a feeling about a score of 43 points as a true 18 capper.
  3. MacDutch

    Stableford scores and sandbagging

    @Shortyyou know anything about the handicap system @Killa was talking about? In the EGA-system it is like he said. Bit ignorant to call it nonsense.
  4. MacDutch

    Stableford scores and sandbagging

    This is the info I was looking for. It tells me if I got it right, that only once in 389 rounds an 18 hcp brings in a score of 7 strokes better than his handicap. Thanks a lot!
  5. MacDutch

    Stableford scores and sandbagging

    The other day I played a competition where Stableford scores are involved. What I try to figure out is the probability of our Stableford scores as a team. We played an Interclub competition, where the best 8 scores out of 12 players are added. That becomes the team result. This is the way they play Interclub competition in Spain (Andalusia). I am under the impression that (trying not to be too harsh) in my surroundings there is a more then average amount of sandbaggers. But I miss the statistics to build my case. If you score 36 Stableford points, that is equivalent to play to your current index. One point more is one stroke better etc. Off course the weatherconditions are not taken into account, so statistics might be a bit off, but in Andalusia the weather is mostly sunny and not a lot of wind. So the results were (we only played with 10 team members): 31, 34, 34, 35, 37, 38, 38, 40, 41 and 43 Stableford points. All players hcp 8-18. I think this is outlier score, I think this is proof of sandbagging to the max. I would love to know the probability of these scores, but I don’t have the statistics to build my case. Tried to find some info but could not find more then ‘65% you play 33 or worse’. Anybody here that could help me? @iacas you are well informed about where to find golfstatistics of all kinds. p.s. My score was 35
  6. Phil should have been DQ-ed and he should have withdrawn himself when the USGA did not. Never rooted for him, cause I think he is fake. This adds to it.
  7. MacDutch

    2018 U.S. Open at Shinnecock Hills

    To me this is absurd. Noting likeable at a pinball course.
  8. MacDutch

    2018 U.S. Open at Shinnecock Hills

    Hah, what did I win? Next question: what will be the winning score? I put it on -2.
  9. MacDutch

    2018 U.S. Open at Shinnecock Hills

    I am more on the ‘make the cut Tiger’ watch.
  10. MacDutch

    2018 U.S. Open at Shinnecock Hills

    Any predictions on where the cut will be? My guess is +8.
  11. MacDutch

    2018 U.S. Open at Shinnecock Hills

    So we are still discussing what a 10 hcp amateur would score on the us-open? Its irritating and I feel its off topic and would like to ask the people that want to discuss it open a seperate topic. @iacas agree? Players had a rough day, I hope the scores will be better friday. I think Tiger will grind and make the cut.
  12. MacDutch

    2018 U.S. Open at Shinnecock Hills

    Someone said Tiger has a brace on his left knee?
  13. MacDutch

    2018 U.S. Open at Shinnecock Hills

    I find it a bit irritating, the discussion here about a 10 hcp amateur. Might be because Tiger is not playing as good as I want him to play. Go Tiger, go!
  14. MacDutch

    2018 Memorial Tournament Presented by Nationwide

    Don’t think so. I am prepared to make a big bet on the first sentence not going to be true. And a 63 will get him at T3 or better. Go Tiger! Go!
  15. MacDutch

    Ball moves in backswing, penalty?

    I addressed the ball, there was nothing else that could have made the ball move then taking the club backwards in my backswing. So thats an extra stroke for me. Thanks for explaining.

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