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# chipandcharge

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1. ## Seeing slopes correctly on the green

Thank you for that feedback about time and practice. I can envision (I almost wrote "see") how that could take place. It's worse than having only one shoe on. Having a club foot and needing a shoe with a thicker sole might be a problem. However, if physics is correct, having unequal (but nearly equal) lengths of both legs/feet are automatically compensated for by gravity trying to make the spine line up vertically with the line from your position on the earth's surface to the center of the earth.
2. ## Seeing slopes correctly on the green

If this happens to you on greens that look as flat as a ping pong table, the vision effect I wrote about might be of help. Working first on greens that look like a ping pong table but may or may not be tilted is a good first step. Here's what I do--I get down low and move back far enough that the cup looks like a cigar instead of an oval. Then I look at the long axis of this cigar and observe the direction of the tilt, and I estimate the amount of the tilt (small, medium, large). Then I go to the other side of the cup and do the same. If the tilts of the "cigar" are equal and opposite, I
3. ## Seeing slopes correctly on the green

I discovered something curious about my vision--when I stand naturally and look at a line that is perfectly horizontal, I see it as descending to the left around three degrees to the left. This means that if I look at a green that is perfectly flat and perfectly horizontal, I see a three degree slope to the left. For years, I couldn't understand why putts that looked straight in, broke to the right, and putts that looked like they would break to the left, went straight. When I got some advice to also look from behind the cup and saw the opposite break compared to looking from behind the bal
4. ## Loss of depth perception and eye-hand coordination and what I did about it

dennyjones--thank you for hanging in there with me and for encouraging words. I was getting discouraged, especially since my handicap went from 20 to 29 in a less than four months. I went out to play a round today, and the revised swing mechanics held up ok, but I got careless on the back nine and didn't match my front nine score. The back nine is said to be tougher, but I know my game slipped. Some day, I may have to write a post about how I discovered than my dominant eye somehow rotated in my eye socket a few degrees, making horizontal surfaces look like a sloped surface, meaning that p
5. ## Loss of depth perception and eye-hand coordination and what I did about it

If anyone has been reading my posts on trying to improve bad ball contact, which I attributed to eye damage that reduced my eye-hand coordination and depth perception to almost a bare minimum, I thought I would share recent improvements. I was given advice by and online pro that I should add more structure to my golf swing, but he didn't explain. I knew from reading up on blind golfers that they have to understand their position in 3D space, and they have to have a repeatable swing. I just didn't know what I needed to do to accomplish this since my mind is not very disciplined. But, here's
6. ## Loss of depth perception and eye-hand coordination and what I did about it

Dennyjones--thank you for the comment and the encouragement I got from it. I college as a grad student, I played tennis against another grad student who lost an eye playing 8th grade football and was still able to play small college varsity tennis. Here's an interesting concept with no proof--a sports scientist watched me play my three favorite sports, golf, tennis and table tennis, and he said it looked like I had very good eye-hand coordination before my left eye went bad (good news), but the bad news was that I depended on it too much and didn't learn mechanics properly. He said that I n
7. ## Loss of depth perception and eye-hand coordination and what I did about it

I continued to struggle with my loss of depth perception (caused by double vision) from August 2015 until early March 2017. I went to several teaching pros, and none had any experience in teaching someone with my problem. I continued to watch online videos, trying to pick up something here and something there. Then the strangest thing happened in early March. Out of frustration, I decided to swing as fast as I could, not the usual 80-85% of max that I kept hearing about. My thinking was that if I was going to continue hitting fat and thin shots, I may as well get as much distance out of i
8. ## physical limitations in your game?

I have two vision problems that I discovered around Oct. 2013. I posted about it previously, but it might help others. One is almost total loss of depth perception from a damaged retina in my left eye, where I can't really tell how far I am from the ball at address other than it is on the ground. The other is that my good eye has rotated in its socket around three degrees, making it difficult for me to read side ways tilts in the green. I've been working for three years on overcoming these two problems, but I can't find a local pro who is willing or able to address these two problems, The
9. ## What do you HATE the most about golf?

What annoys me the most is playing with people who are always hunting for balls in the brush and are not ready to hit when it is their turn. One day, I was waiting for a playing companion to hit his ball. He had addressed his ball and then turned his head to the woods. I knew exactly what he was going through his mind. He wanted to go and search for golf balls, and he did.
10. ## Loss of depth perception and eye-hand coordination and what I did about it

boogielicious--thank you for reading my post. It was so long,even after I edited. I have glasses with prisms, but they correct the double vision by only 80% or so for me. A problem with the prism gasses is that they shift objects in space, as I discovered about six months after getting them. If I look at a tennis ball on a table from a distance of six feet, the ball is located approximately four inches lower than it really is in space. If I were to try to hit it by throwing a gof ball at it and threw it perfectly, the golf ball would pass four inches below the actual ball. That's because
11. ## Loss of depth perception and eye-hand coordination and what I did about it

Prior to 2011, I had very good depth perception and eye-hand coordination. I had a history of doing quite well in racquet sports. I started playing golf in 2007, and my index was progressing downward at a reasonable rate. Then I developed double vision due to scar tissue developing behind the retina in my left eye. In 2011, my index went up six points in less than a month. My number of bad contacts in a round of 18 went from 2 to 3 to 15 to 20. One day while waiting on the tee box for my turn to hit, I tried to nudge the ball on the grass with the handle of the club, and I mis
12. ## What is the most important aspect of golf that you think can improve your score?

Yes, how to characterize a bad contact will surely vary from person to person, but for me, the 1.4 additional strokes fit my golf scores quite accurately. If it did not, I would have calculated my own figure so that I could look at the number of bad contacts I counted and hypothesized how much lower my score would have been if I could have cut my bad contacts in half, which was one recommendation on how to make use of this figure of merit. Bottom line--a person can remove the general nature of the 1.4 strokes per bad contact by using personal scores and what he/she considers a bad contact an
13. ## Why is Tiger's Short Game so Bad? Does he Have the Yips?

This kind of yips described by the above post and an earlier one on focal dystonia has been reported on in a book that discusses fMRI research written by Sandra and Matthew Blakeslee, "The Body Has a Mind of Its Own." They write about a particular form of yips that are experienced by experts, such as golfers, violinists, and pianists, where patterns have to be repeated with repeated precision. They write that an expert develops what they call "memory maps" that direct the firing of the muscles in a particular order. An expert has a collection of very similar memory maps that all essentially
14. ## How to improve hand-eye coordination

Thanks for the confirmation from soccer. In one of her articles, Dr. Vickers wrote that her quiet eyes intervention worked for free throw shooting on the University of Calgary's women's basketball team. The article said that the basketball players were instructed to focus on a spot of the rim before making the free throw shot. The particular spot could differ from individual to individual. It didn't have to be an aiming spot. It just needed to keep the eyes from roaming over too big an area. At least, that's my interpretation. I imagine the theory applies to a marksman. I always heard
15. ## How to improve hand-eye coordination

Since I brought up the research of Dr Vickers, I suppose it is my responsibility to look for actual data. I believe she published her research in reviewed professional journals, so she would have to have solid data. As for whole ball versus dimple, either could work if it quieted the eyes, which her research found was one of the two factors mentioned. I can see why focusing on a single dimple works for me since I have double vision and actually see two golf balls. I'm guessing now that my eyes must be jumping back and forth between the two balls, where the second ball is displaced abou
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