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  1. bkuehn1952


    @gbogey's reference was to tournament play, not a casual round early in the morning with 3 friends and nothing on the line. When something is on the line (either a tournament finish or money), most players mark more often, take longer to read short putts, ask other players to move their mark, etc... That adds up quickly. I agree with you that when we are playing a $1/$1/$1 Nassau there is not a lot of excessive time wasted on putts; we miss them quickly and holing everything is not a time drain.
  2. I have not played the Forward tees at my home course. We have played the forward and/or senior tees a few times in 2020. Recently I played a couple Tournament rounds from forward tees (two different courses with par 71/70, about 5,200 yards with a Men's course rating/slope around 65.0/113). The round at Fox Creek, tee to green was excellent and I rolled the putts well for a 72 (6.3 differential). The next day at Whispering Willows, I had a few loose shots and 4 more putts for an 80 (16.1 differential). Having played both courses at yardages around 6,100 yards, the differences are about what one might expect. Off the tee there are a number of holes with doglegs or penalty areas that require shorter but still accurate tee shots. Other holes allow one to hit as far as possible. For a long hitter driving some par 4 greens is possible and all the par 5's are potentially reachable. Almost every approach shot is with a much more lofted club. Errant shots still find trouble, just closer to the green. One typically will hit more greens in regulation and on average be closer to the hole. What I found was every bogey is magnified. At 5,200 yards one needs to make pars and birdies to have any hope of shooting a differential under one's index. If one is not putting decently or a bit loose tee to green, one is going to embarrass oneself [see Day 2 above 😉].
  3. My two companions were taking a bathroom break so I played ready golf and teed off. Everything worked perfectly for this short hitter. Dead center of the sweet spot. The slight fade fit the slight dogleg right perfectly, the bounce and roll looked especially long. Then my buddies arrived. Jim is a strong player and easily out hits me by 20-40 yards. I told him there was no way he could even think he would out drive me on this hole. I said my drive was so pure and long that even Bryson would be impressed. Well, Jim tried to look uninterested but I sensed he really wanted to shut me up. He went through his usual routine but were his arms just a bit tense in preparation for a mighty swing?? He made a hard swing and hooked the ball into the adjacent fairway. I love it when occasionally I can get into someone's head. Jim had the last laugh, beating me by 3 strokes but for one shot I was a "winner".
  4. Casual play I usually stretch at home and then proceed to the course. If I did not stretch and there is time and a place on the ground that is not wet/muddy I will stretch at the course. Then a bit of putting. Almost never hit balls other than courses that may have a chipping area. Tournaments, I am typically working the registration desk and I am lucky to have time to putt a few and stretch. If I am not tied up with administrative things, I will hit a few balls. I like to see how my driver is behaving (a bit of a fade or almost straight is my standard flight) so I can anticipate whether to aim at the left side of the fairway or right.
  5. Maybe pick a date in late September, 2021, as well as a likely venue. Those of us interested can put it tentatively on our calendars. Since you are doing the initial planning, we should play in Ohio. Assuming most of the MI players come from southern or southeastern MI, a location closer to the border than Dayton is preferred but I know very little about Ohio golf. You are doing the leg work so it is your call. Things like what the format would be, size of each team, composition of each team, etc., can be worked out over the next 12 months. Give us something to do during the winter.
  6. Not a particularly good selection of shots this past week. My pick is the approach shot on #17 at Polo Fields. I had hit a decent drive into the fairway and had about 140 yards to the middle tier of a three tier green. I knew the slope to the 3rd tier would tend to serve as a backstop so I fired right at the flag. The ball hit just short of pin high and released. It rolled part way up the slope and then came back (gravity, not spin). When I arrived, it was about 8 feet from the hole. p.s. I proceeded to 3-putt the #!@$! hole.
  7. A couple of local courses closed or will be closing. The Golf Club at Mount Brighton, a public course laid out on and near a local ski area, closed this year. The course was less than 20 years old. It originally opened with much fanfare as "The Jackal". The new owner (same group that owns Vail ski area) decided to focus on skiing. I played the course only twice over the years and was not excited about the layout. I never like seeing a course close but this one won't be missed too much. Salem Hills, a fixture locally since 1963, announced it will close in October. The family that owned the course did not want to invest the money to upgrade the infrastructure There is no buyer currently. I have played this course off and on for 40 years. I suspect it will become a housing development. I hope I am wrong. I have to smile about one occurrence years ago. A foursome of Japanese players was ahead of us one day. We all ended up waiting on the 11th tee (very tough hole and always backed up). When they finally were able to tee off, the last member of the foursome scuffed his tee shot and it went about 50 yards, stopping on the forward tee. One of the group's members turned to us, smiled and said, "Straight ... but not very far". We all had a good laugh and we always re-used that phrase when we would duff a shot.
  8. I recommend not making a change to the WHS. Most of the league members likely want a simple system that reflects how they are playing today. Most league handicap systems are designed to be simple and to fluctuate relatively rapidly over a fairly short season. You and I know that no system is ever going to perfectly anticipate how someone will play next week based on how they played last week. Still, it sounds like most league members are okay with the current program, flaws and all. The WHS is not simple. It does not respond quickly; in fact, it is designed to respond slowly. Maybe the WHS would produce a more accurate and fair league handicap but few members are likely to appreciate the change.
  9. I checked "high seventies." When I am playing well, my expectation is under "80". When I play at my best, a handful of times a year, mid-70's. My average score since 7/1/2020 is 81.5 so more than half the time I am not meeting my expectations. A buddy once said, "79 is about 3 shots better than an 80." Yes, it is absurd but I sort of feel the same way.
  10. I have played in "gross within the flight" competitions. Great for the 10 playing in the 10-15 flight. Unless the flights have a small range, like 10-12, there is quite an advantage for the lower handicaps. There is no perfect system for handicapped competitions. I accept the fact that I am not good enough to compete in a gross tournament. If I want to play in competitions and have a chance to win, it will be a net event, flaws and all.
  11. Yes, I like Washtenaw. I have played there several times, including January 3, 2020. My notes were: "43 degrees, cloudy, a breeze around 7 mph. Nice. Course was very soft but not under water. Played long. Rough was healthy. Greens were pretty quick for January." You got me on the numbers. Only 25 courses this year. 4 new ones and only a single new course in the Mitten.
  12. I formerly considered myself competent from the sand but a few years ago I got in a funk and have struggled a bit. Naturally, on the 9th hole yesterday I found a bunker. I had a good lie but was almost 30 yards to the hole, not a common bunker shot for me and certainly my expectations were not great. I tried to have the clubhead enter the sand as close to the ball as possible and darned if I didn't pull the shot off. Flew to the green, rolled out another 15 feet to tap in range. The blind squirrel once again found an acorn. 😉
  13. Annual buddy golf trips are great. My experience is one needs to change things a bit each year or two or the experience gets stale. So do this every year but think about variations in destinations, games played, lodging, etc ...
  14. I totally agree. While the title implies we have sandbaggers, we rarely have anyone intentionally manipulate the numbers. We do have members like your friends who have better focus and course management when playing in a competition. Our competition index reflects their play in tournaments rather than slapping it around with buddies.
  15. Our club is "senior only" with ages from 50 to 94. We run 16 "net" tournaments (one is a 3-day event) over the course of the year. Participation in each event runs 90 to 110 players divided into 4 flights. One would think these guys wouldn't try to game the system since the winner's gift certificate is only $100. Still, there are a handful of players every year who play considerably better than their GHIN index. There was a four year stretch where the same individual topped the "money list" 3 of the 4 years. A lot of the members were grumbling. Also, we had a huge problem with players not posting to GHIN and/or posting incorrectly. As a club without real estate, we can't check the tee sheet. The Board started looking for ways to assure that the member's index reflected their play. We now post all our competition scores for the members using Golf Genius. Since we knew the "C" scores were posted correctly, a decision was made to calculate indexes for our tournaments using just the verifiable scores from past events. Since the accumulation of "C" scores takes time, it was noted that the "C" index often lagged well behind the "potential" of some members. Rapid improvement is often not that hard for a 25.0 index. That is why the Knuth TPS process went into effect. The entire process of calculating "C" only indexes and "Knuth" points takes me 30 minutes a week. Still, I agree that our system of managing our members indexes is overkill.
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