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    USGA/R&A Finalize 2019 Rules of Golf

    rules@usga.org has been asked about the use of a ball-marker with a line. I'll let you all know when I get a response.
  2. Show 'em R1.3b(2) Accepting Player’s “Reasonable Judgment” in Determining a Location When Applying the Rules. :)
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    USGA/R&A Finalize 2019 Rules of Golf

    14.2c/1 – Ball May Be Replaced in Almost Any Orientation When replacing a lifted ball on a spot, the Rules are concerned about only the location. The ball may be aligned in any way when being replaced (such as by lining up a trademark) so long as the ball’s vertical distance to the ground remains the same. For example, when using a Rule that does not allow cleaning, the player lifts his or her ball and there is a piece of mud sticking to it. The ball may be aligned in any way when replacing it on the original spot (such as by rotating the interfering mud towards the hole). However, the player is not allowed to replace the ball in an alignment so the ball rests on the mud unless that was its position before it was lifted. The “spot” of the ball includes its vertical location relative to the ground.
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    USGA/R&A Finalize 2019 Rules of Golf

    Well, 16 out of 20 is 80%. That's not bad. :)
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    USGA/R&A Finalize 2019 Rules of Golf

    #3 is seriously incorrect. Free relief for an embedded ball is not permitted in a bunker or a penalty area. #9 is somewhat misleading. You may not touch the sand immediately behind or in front of the ball. #11 is incomplete. That refers only to relief for an unplayable lie in a bunker, #18 should, for most of of us who play without caddies, say that partners are not allowed to help us line up. I doubt, despite the logos across the top, that this is a R&A/USGA document.
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    A Rules Sequence: 2018 vs. 2019

    30 Days of 2019 Rules Changes: Day 23 – Substitution of a Ball Always Allowed When Taking Relief | Rules Geeks Under the 2018 Rules, players are only allowed to substitute a ball when taking relief under a few specific Rules. Substitution is allowed when taking penalty relief, such as when a ball is lost in…
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    USGA/R&A Finalize 2019 Rules of Golf

    New R6.3b says: (1) When Player Is Allowed and Not Allowed to Substitute Another Ball. Certain Rules allow a player to change the ball he or she is using to play a hole by substituting another ball as the ball in play, and others do not: When taking relief under a Rule, including when either dropping a ball or placing a ball (such as when a ball will not stay in the relief area or when taking relief on the putting green), the player may use either the original ball or another ball (Rule 14.3a), When playing again from where a previous stroke was made, the player may use either the original ball or another ball (Rule 14.6), and When replacing a ball on a spot, the player is not allowed to substitute a ball and must use the original ball, with certain exceptions (Rule 14.2a).
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    John Senden - Driver Snaps, Stroke Counts

    Here's a decent account of the proceedings: Ogilvy sounds off on Senden snap decision A bizarre series of events and some controversy arrived at Royal Pines during Thursday’s opening round of the Australian PGA Championship, when John Senden’s driver snapped during his downswing on the 9th tee.
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    How Much "Simpler" Are the 2019 Rules, Really?

    I was at a PGA/USGA Rules workshop a couple of weeks ago and asked Mark Reinemann, the Chairman of the USGA Rules Committee about the next revision. He thought 2022 would be next and then reverting to the four-year cycle.
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    2019 Rules Caddy Marking Ball

    2019 Rule 10.3 tells us what caddies may do and what is not permitted. http://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules/rules-2019/rules-of-golf/rules-and-interpretations.html#!ruletype=fr&section=rule&rulenum=10&subrulenum=3 Aligning the ball is not mentioned, as such, it is not prohibited.
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    Question on Embedded Ball

    My "problem" is the darn "excepts'. In this case relief is available in the general except in sand where it is not cut to fairway height or less, i.e. the rough. As to 2), they've got 5 weeks to figure that one out. I'll bet they won't sanction a back-on-the-line relief area. By the way, the exam is still exhausting. Someone suggested that it was last year's questions with next year's answers.
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    Question on Embedded Ball

    Rulesman, we still have this: R16.3a Exceptions – When Relief Not Allowed for Ball Embedded in General Area: Relief under Rule 16.3b is not allowed: When the ball is embedded in sand in a part of the general area that is not cut to fairway height or less, What's that all about? The Yanks blame the Brits. 😏 And, part 2, if I may. R16.3b requires that the relief area be the spot right behind where the ball was embedded. Fair enough until we deal with a ball embedded in the earth or grass-covered face of the bunker. (Which we now know for 2019 is not part of the bunker.) The USGA as of 18 Nov 18 hasn't an answer does your source? Perhaps we're to drop twice on the face of the bunker and then inch our way, possibly sideways, until we find a spot on which the ball will remain at rest. On the other hand, back-on-the-line relief makes good sense, too.
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    Failure To Include an Unknown Penalty

    Isn't it possible that the "Failure to Include Unknown Penalty" Exception is really only a TV golf phenomenon? I've been a referee (mercifully not on TV) for awhile and over the past ten years of 30 or so days working each season, I've never even once seen a "failure to include unknown penalty" situation arise. The usual question in the scoring area is, "Any Rules problems out there today? Anyone play a second ball under 3-3?" Sometimes a player or marker will have something to clear up, but it gets done on the spot.
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    Match Play Question

    I'd suggest that your match should have stood as played. HANDICAP IN MATCH PLAY Decision 6-2a/1 Failure to Determine Handicaps Prior to Start of Match There is no penalty if players fail to determine one another's handicaps before starting a match. If this results in one of them not receiving a handicap stroke at a hole at which he is entitled to receive one, the hole stands as played.
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