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  1. I would like to add that you made sure to convert the meters into yards (add an extra 10% or so to the numbers), right? Otherwise, those are respectable numbers for someone only started their golf journey. FWIW, as a 58 year old who started playing golf in their mid-40s, I don't have a lot of distance (driver 210-240y, 7i 130-140y and PW 95-105y), but I do enjoy the game very much, did take lessons and improved my swing considerably after I did.
  2. Yes, those are the odds for the pros. And with 144 or 156 players in the field, usually cut to 60 to 80 players on the weekend, it makes sense that there is a hole in one at nearly every tournament (some have none and some have more than one obviously), as they are pretty much all the same ball striking level. However, for the average amateur, the odds jump to 1 in 12000 or so, so assuming 4 par 3s per round like you said, that's one in 3000 rounds and if the average (committed) player has a good year at 50 rounds per year, that's a non-trivial 60 years to wait for a hole-in-one! Luckily, there are executive courses with more par 3s, and the odds also improve as a player gets better, so it's really a continuum between the 1/12000 and 1/2500 odds for most people. There are always statistical flukes of course, but on average, it holds. In other words, the better you are, the luckier you get, which is the same principle at play as in "The more I practice, the luckier I get" (Gary Player about holing out from the sand)...
  3. 1 (just under 3 months ago) after 14 years of playing or so. Wheew!
  4. I took a 12 on #10, a par 5, at Poppy Hills (before the renovation), in a tournament. I was in the middle of the fairway after the drive. There is a lake on the left and long hitters can go over it and hit the green which is also on the left side of the fairway, but there is plenty of room straight for a lay up with maybe 80-100 yards to the green. I hit a 3 wood, into the trees right, OB. I reload of course with a 5 wood (it's a tournament, I said), and sail the next one OB too. I reload again and watch in horror at it goes right towards the trees again! Except this time the golf gods have pity on me and spit the ball right back in the fairway. Wheew! I was this close from DQ'ing myself. I am laying 6 by now, but still don't feel that I am close enough to chance going over the lake, so I layup and then flub the short approach, now laying 8. I am standing on a mound on the side of the green, everything running away from me, towards the water (remember the lake?). Sure enough, I blade the chip/pitch and it finds the water (red stake). After dropping (my 10th stroke), I made a nice up and down for a smooth 12, with 3 penalties (2 OBs and a LWH). ETA: It could have easily been a 14, had I missed the putt and its comeback. As someone said in the other thread: how do you get a 14? You miss the 3-footer for 13 and tap-in.
  5. I voted for the slow golfer, which is the most annoying thing to me, especially when you give him hints as to what he could do to speed things up a bit and he just ignores all of it. Since multiple choices were possible, I also voted for the rage-aholic, especially when he starts throwing clubs. Some of the rage filled tirades can actually be funny so as long as his burst is over quickly I can tolerate, but some people are raging all day long. Sometimes I finally say "you (or 'we') are not good enough to be that upset". It usually calms them down for a bit. I didn't select it, but the third worst for me wouldbe the Distractor: show me some courtesy and shut your clapper when i am ready to swing, please. I don't need full silence for a minute, but don't start talking or making a loud noise in my backswing.
  6. When your opponent returned to the tee to hit another ball after looking where he thought his original was but couldn't be found, it was not a provisional ball. He just hit 3 from the tee at this point. A provisional can only be hit before you begin to look/search (as a provision in case it isn't found), if you suspect it might not be found. Regardless of how the ball got next to the next tee, your opponent couldn't use his original ball. Retrieve it, yes, but that's it.
  7. Thanks @iacas for the shout-out. @Soss, don't forget an embarrassingly long bro hug after he putts out on 18. He's just won a major after all! You can use this time if you orient yourself properly as a way to hide the fact that his wife is getting in position to run to the green and to give her the clue to come in. And... don't forget to hug the wife too! It's been mentioned already, but as you stalks putts from the opposite of him, or right behind him, carry the flag with you. Don't let the flag on the ground (unless you are busy raking a bunker with a fine comb or something...). Grab it by the business end (where the fabric is) and have the bottom part in the air.
  8. While he gets ready to take his stance (but way before he gets ready to hit), grab the bag and put it down right next to him, and start discussing a wind change, real or not does not matter, and hand him another club. Waste 30 seconds or so discussing the situation, and let him go with his previous club. Rinse and repeat for effect! Start shushing the (imaginary) gallery, yelling "put that camera away, please". Kudos for the bet and for being a real good sport about it. This should be tons of fun!
  9. An Associate Club is a club (ie a group of people) without an assigned golf course. So they go around the area and play tournaments at those locations, usually on the weekend. They are structured like a an actual club (at a golf course) with a president, treasurer, handicap chairman, tournament director, etc... So that's what those 2 two you never heard off are. Associate Clubs can have some fancy and sometimes self-deprecating names too; they are typically formed by groups of people who have another social connection, be it work, church, social cause, ad-hoc, whatever, and most of them are opened to new members, even if those new members are not exactly of the same composition as the original crew. Just ask them who they are and if you could play as a guest a time or two to decide if you'd be a fit.
  10. Just remove putting altogether from golf then. Problem solved: everybody is as good as anyone else at it, and it would take much less time to play a hole, maybe half the time as it does now.
  11. This is my objection too, and I let the USGA and R&A know in the feedback website they have set up. As a decent putter, I would lose whatever small advantage I have in mastering the putting skill, so would fall further behind... For the pros, all the records would become meaningless as they could treat a 5-6 footer just like they treat a 3 footer now, with 99% going in. As you said, that affects the rest of putting, particularly lag putting, a lot!
  12. Man, oh, man! That was hilarious, the divot kick, the "white stuff", the "relieving in the trees", the celebration (putter drop!). You are a hoot. And thanks for saying you want to be my teammate. I now have to do something about applying, lol. We wouldn't be on the same team as I am in California and support the red team all the way. But, it would be fun to meet you Brian.
  13. All that, and besides, it's not all about what's in it for "me". If everyone kept thinking that way, we would have no society and the world would be a horrible place to live.
  14. Actually, it does not slow things down to hit a provisional. It takes less than 30s compared to all the arguing about what to do, where to drop, etc when the ball that sailed OB isn't found. And the fact that the provisional might end up OB is actually the part of stroke and distance rule that really complies with the principle of golf that you only advance the ball via a stroke, so if you can't execute the stroke (and pump another one OB), you pay the piper. After 2 OBs, though, take your medicine and write the ESC score on your scorecard, and continue hitting or DQ yourself in a tournament. Also, dropping in the fairway is less penalizing than dropping near the OB because there are no trees, no hills, no blind anything and the path to the hole is much easier, even if you lose a few yards in the process. Interestingly, the USGA and R&A looked at that option (dropping in the fairway, and also dropping in the nearby rough) when doing their work on revamping the rules and they rejected it.
  15. The stat that is in question is not 3.6 around the green, although that's a bad number. 2.6 would be ok: 2.6 means 1 chip and 2 putts (3 strokes) 60 percent of the time and 2 putts (2 strokes) 40% of the time. The problem is you said: GIR 50% so 9 greens in regulation, and GIR+1 at 100%. So all your green in regulations misses end up on the green after the 20-30 yards pitch or chip or whatever. From there, if you 2-putted everything you would shoot 81 on a par 72 course: 9 pars from 9 greens in regulation with 2 putts and 9 bogeys from being on the green in regulation + 1 and 2 putts. And since you are on the green in GIR+1 100% of the time, the only way you can get a higher score than 81 is by putting more than twice. But to get to be a 23 handicap, you need another 14-15 strokes, all putts. So, are you 3-putting 14 times per round? If so, it's time to start controlling the distance on your long putts and reduce the number of 3-putts greatly. You should aim for no more than 1 or 2 3-putts per round. Practice long putts on the practice green, initially not by putting to a hole, but to a distance, whether to the fringe without hitting it, to a club or a towel laid down on the ground. When you are reliably getting close to your target without getting too long, introduce a hole in the equation and put a club down 2-3 feet behind the hole. You don't want to hit your club and you want the ball to get to the hole, distance-wise. Practice uphill, downhill and flat and before you know it, you'll only have 2 putts per hole in most cases, and you'll shoot 81-83,