sjduffers

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Absolutely! New money think they can buy "class". Truth is class is not for sale: usually, old money has it and new money typically has no idea what it is...

Touché! I missed that. That bag looks pretty light though, at least compared to mine (a cart bag which I never carry, but use either on a push cart or a riding cart)! No argument that not having to do all these things, especially for 72 holes, is a big help. That said, I don't know how I would fare with just the 25 miles walk, not to mention the gazillion swings... ETA: I would definitely need to read and peruse this thread several times:

Perhaps I was mistaken, but it looked to me like the caddie was a forecaddie, caddying for the whole group, but not carrying bags. Pointing out lines, looking for lost balls, maybe reading putts, etc... Regardless of whether carrying or pushing one's own bag, or having it deal with by someone else, walking 4 rounds in a day on these hilly courses is quite a feat. I know I feel beat after walking and pushing my cart for 27 or 36 holes!

What they said both times is that the player could have dropped on the opposite side of the penalty area, but never mentioned the local rule applying to that penalty area, and effectively left it to imply that it was per the general rule, which i kind of knew (and you confirmed) was not the case this year and beyond, thus spreading more confusion to the golfing public not on top of the rules...

Thanks @iacasfor confirming what I thought. But the question remains: is there a local rule that applies to this particular hole and penalty area, or are the tv announcers still thinking of the old rule? It could be either one at first brush, but would like to know for sure. Thanks!

Twice in the last couple of days, the announcers are pointing to the option to drop on the other side of the red penalty area of the creek in front of the green. Is there a local rule for this particular hole that allows it? I thought the 2019 Rules of Golf had done away with this option for relief on a red penalty area. It was of course an option before that. So, are they full of it, or not?

Why such a big fuss about changing shoes in your car? Personally, that is really not an issue, and I would also change my shirt and/or my long pants into shorts if that made sense without hesitation. I don't need to anymore because I don't go from work to the golf course any longer: retirement has its benefits! From what I gather from your post, you like the accoutrements of a private club, but you are not the private club type. I would stick to playing multiple higher-end courses like you are doing now: if you go often enough, they'll know you and treat you (almost) like at a private club... but you'll have to get over changing your shoes in the car, or simply drive to the course in spikeless shoes!

Awesome! Now do it again and again, and then routinely and you are on your way to break 80!

It took me a few tries too to break 80, ending with 80 on the nose numerous times, too numerous to recount. Part of it was knowing exactly were I stood and the resulting pressure. Part of it is that the closing hole (in general) is not usually the easiest so as a 12-15 handicap it may be a stroke hole and the difficulty of making par on it ("for all the marbles!") is not to be discounted. I did what someone suggested here: move up a tee box if you can and/or pick an easier course, or maybe one with a par 70 or 71 if you are trying to do it on a par 72 course. Whatever you need to do to make it "easier". You'll blast through it (maybe not the first time, though) and that barrier will have been "broken", at least psychologically, even if deep down you know that now you need to do it again on your normal track and tee box. In time, you'll do it everywhere and while breaking 80 may/will become a goal at the beginning of every round, it will no longer be unsurmountable and will happen fairly regularly. It worked for me, and not only did I break 80 that day, I shot 77! Now, I can manage it about 1/4 to 1/3 of the time, so it's still not a guarantee but I am no longer mentally blocked by the idea, even though it is my goal at the start of every round. Good luck and keep us posted!

Sure, we've all done that, but some are doing it more than others... just sayin'. That's another reason why walking is better: you have more time to spot your ball in the proper location than when you are zooming by with a lead foot on the pedal! Ah! Very true. 👍 The alternative (with a pull cart) is to watch the ball land first and then start moving, and to fiddle with the bag to retrieve the beverage as pull carts don't have cupholders!, All conducive to slower pace of play. To all those on the fence, absolutely spend the extra $100 and enjoy all the benefits of a push cart. You'll be glad you did.

I am not a medical professional in any of the fields you mentioned, but I once had a pull cart (kept it for several years) and have since moved on to push carts (I have had several of those too over the last 15 years or so). The difference is night and day: for the $100 or so that you may save on the cost of the cart, you don't realize how much more comfortable it is to push (typically with both arms) than it is to pull (which is with one arm only). I think you can hurt your shoulders pulling, even if you alternate pulling arms because they are out of alignment. Not to mention, it's much easier to push, and you can let go of the cart at times, rolling it forward ahead of you or letting it take some speed on some small downhills ahead. You can still push with only one arm if you want, but the position of that shoulder is in front of you, not behind, a much easier and less stressful motion, IMHO.

I know you didn't start it, but I have to admit that I am often a bit disconcerted about "bros" in their 20s riding in carts, when they really would appreciate the game more walking (and saving a few bucks too). It's like they "graduated" from mandatory walking as juniors and are showing off by riding. With all the other accoutrements that we could also dispense with: drinking, loud music, yelling, and overall bad cart management such as congregating both carts to a single ball, 4 times in a row, or driving like a bat out of hell past the location of a ball, only to come back when they finally realize that their ball didn't go as far as they imagined after all... To be clear, I am not saying that all young folks are like I described above, or that you are (as I don't know you). But when I see a group like that, I feel a bit sad and sorry for them. That said, we can all enjoy a beer afterwards, can't we?

That's when they are being held up by younger guys riding in carts, copying the agonizing pre-shot routines they see on tv. See how that ageism works? For what it's worth, all the guys I know that are that age and walk can finish in 3 1/2 hours, walking.

Yes, she is all that. But her hand gestures (stretching fingers, all apart) like she's having an episode of some kind, is unnerving, to me at least. I have to make a real conscious effort to not get distracted by them...