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Everything posted by DaveP043

  1. It is for the benefit of you, and of other golfers who are at a similar stage in their development as golfers, that you see so much criticism of some of the excessively conservative strategies some folks suggest. If someone suggests that its a good idea to give up distance potential for no specific reason, he's wrong. Now if a fairway pinches in, or hazards start out there at a specific distance, of course it can make sense to play short of the problem areas, but don't lay up without a specific reason. Similarly, the guy who suggested playing a par-5 with four 150-yard shots is guiding you down the wrong path. At your level, you're almost certain to mess up one of those shots, that's what 20 handicappers do. So we're just trying to debunk some of the bad advice that comes around sometimes. Sometimes we come across as shills for this site and its owner, but I honestly recommend that you buy his book, Lowest Score Wins. He presents a very clear and well-though-out method for on-course management, among a bunch of other good information.
  2. Actually, the "wisdom" that most of us will suggest is to hit it as far as you can while avoiding most of the trouble. That's the best way to score as low as possible with your current set of skill. If you choose to sacrifice distance for no particular reason, you choose to sacrifice some of your scoring potential. And if you really want to improve, most people will get the greatest scoring improvement by improving their full swing game.
  3. I did get it wrong, even though I was looking at the correct information as I was typing my response. The point remains, a DQ penalty cannot be rescinded based on lack of awareness.
  4. I'm not sure what your point is here. The young lady a week or so back was DQ for turning in 5 on a hole where she actually made a 4. There wasn't a rules infraction that she was unaware of, she just made a specific mistake that requires a DQ. The Exception is pretty clear, the DQ doesn't apply if the hole score is wrong because the player was unaware that penalty stroke(s) should have been added to her score on the hole. If she just screws up the hole score, the Exception doesn't apply. Similarly, if the penalty for the "unknown infraction" is DQ, the exception doesn't apply. I suppose in a sense you're right, "technically" she didn't know she had committed an infraction. But the penalty for that infraction is DQ, so if we follow the Exception's logic, we would add that penalty back into her score, and she would be DQ.
  5. I guess I can understand that a player might not keep up with the rules changes if she's not competing regularly, although it seems unlikely. Its even harder to believe that neither of her playing partners nor their caddies said anything until the middle of day 2.
  6. Like I said, its an adjustment, but not a complicated one. People all over the world have been making exactly that evaluation when playing Stableford competitions for decades, I'm sure we americans are smart enough to learn to do it right.
  7. I believe this is the biggest impact the WHS will have on day-to-day posting in the US, but it brings us in line with the way much of the rest of the world does things. Its also consistent with the Stableford scoring system, which again is common through much of the world. It certainly will be an adjustment, but its not all that complicated. I'm hoping that the online calculation services (like Ghin and others) will enable hole by hole posting. If so, you'll just type in your raw scores, and the computers will correct for the maximum hole score.
  8. You're correct, and the rules are very specific. Handicap Index is truncated after the tenths digit, specifically NOT rounded. Course handicaps are rounded, with 0.5 being rounded upward.
  9. If it is a USGA index it will update on the 1st and 15th. Not every USGA state or regional association has chosen to use GHIN as its calculation service, but every one DOES follow the USGA requirements.
  10. DaveP043

    Pace Problem

    I've seen the GPS units used exactly this way, and I like it. The one thing I'd suggest for all courses is that the expectation be set aggressively. When I was at Talamore (where a few of us have played) over Labor Day weekend, their new GPS units were set to "time par" of about 4:10, which is fairly quick for a resort setting. In talking to the head pro, he said that the addition of the GPS units has sped up play by 15 to 20 minutes, and the time par notifications was a big part of that improvement.
  11. As @iacas says, the local rule must be in effect for this to be an acceptable option. The way you worded this makes me wonder a bit whether you were "no closer to the hole" than the point where the ball crossed the OB line, that's a part of the local rule requirements. Similarly, you cannot go more than 2 clublengths from the edge of the fairway.
  12. You can always research handicap-related questions at the USGA's Handicap Manual online, at https://www.usga.org/handicapping/handicap-manual.html#!rule-14367 As others have said, your Course Handicap is calculated as:
  13. You certainly may be an anomaly, the world is full of them, so general rules may not apply to you. After all, we're all individuals, we each need to evaluate our own game and work on the weakest points. But one general rule does apply, if you improve your swing as a whole, you'll almost certainly decrease the number of wayward drives. I should mention a note of geometry here. If your drive at 230 is on the edge of the fairway, say 20 yards offline from the fairway center, at 270 yards it should only be 10 feet or so into the rough. That's usually not a huge problem, its the ones that are in the trees or hazards or OB that are the big problems. I may also not quite fit the generalizations. At my age, 63, and playing at a reasonably decent level for a good while, I'm unlikely to gain a whole lot of distance with an improved swing. My primary goal is to be more consistent, more solid strikes, less lateral dispersion. That may result in some small increases in distance, and I'll be happy if it does. Still, my route to lower scores is primarily through improving my full swing.
  14. I very seldom try to speak for others, but I don't think you'll find many (any?) people on this forum who would ever recommend an approach like the bold one. A 14-handicapper should generally be doing the same thing I'm trying to do, and that's to improve his golf swing. If he only cares about distance with the driver, he probably will limit himself. If he only cares about accuracy with his irons, he'll also limit himself. But improving the golf swing SHOULD improve both distance and accuracy. It shouldn't have to be an either/or proposition. Part of that 14-handicapper achieving the goal you suggest, getting on the green, is to hit the tee shot long and in play, making the second shot easier to get on the green, easier to get close to the hole. So its not what the thread title suggests, distance as opposed to accuracy, its a combination, distance with accuracy.
  15. I don't know about your students, but when I hit my tee shots longer, I also hit more greens, and hit it closer. That's a function of having shorter shots to the greens. So improving driving is a significant tool in shooting lower scores. I've also found that improving my full swing helps my driver distance, and helps my distance and direction accuracy with every club in the bag. I don't think of it as focusing on irons vs. focusing on driving it long, I think of it as improving my swing. Now if you're suggesting that too many players focus only on increasing their driver distance, when they're better off working on the swing in general, you could be right.
  16. This has been said before, but lets take 2 teams, and really compare full-swing game against short game: Team 1, Tiger hits the "regulation to the green shots" and I finish out the hole. By that I mean Tiger hits the tee shot for par 3s, the first two shots on par 4s, and three shots on par 5s (or two if he gets home in two). Team 2, I hit the "regulation" shots and let Tiger get it in the hole. Team 1 will beat Team 2 every single time. Team 2 will miss more greens, will take more penalties, will have fewer short putts, have fewer eagle chances. You could have done the same with the two golfers in the videos, just structured the experiment as I described. They've structured their experiments in a way to produce the result they want to get. Full swing is more than just driver. And putts win tournaments only when the players are equal elsewhere.
  17. I don't think its unfair, the player has every opportunity to record her own scores, and check them against the scores that her marker has recorded. This is pretty much standard procedure anywhere stroke play events are held. And really, what is the option? Is someone else to be responsible for recording a player's score?
  18. There really IS a time for drinking lighter. I'm not much on the big lights, but I love a nice crisp pilsner in the heat of the summer. Your mention of football reminded me of being in Hawaii in September a few times East coast NFL football games start at 7 AM there, and that was definitely not too early for a drink. They couldn't serve until 7, but they had a couple of dozen bloody mary glasses ready at the bar, just waiting to pour the vodka when the clock struck 7.
  19. a. Its never too early, and never too late, its not just for breakfast any more 2. For my personal taste, its NEVER the right time for a Coors Light. On the other hand, what time did you finish the contest? If its before about 9 AM, I'd probably prefer a bloody mary.
  20. I think its possible to practice enough to time the compensations well without conscious thought. But they're still compensations, and as such are likely to get more erratic when practice time falls off. The more productive and consistent results come from swings that require fewer compensations.
  21. I play within the rules, to the best of my ability. I will move the ball when the rules allow it, but otherwise I play it as it lies. My group of friends always play for a couple of dollars, and we all play the same way. Its really good to play that way for fun, so that I'm used to playing that way in a competition.
  22. DaveP043

    Pace Problem

    My problem with your original post here wasn't the issue you were complaining about, but the way you made your complaint. Intentional insults, poor descriptions (the slow play had nothing to do with USKIDS), and poor grammar make you much less credible in my eyes. Slow play is a common issue, but it won't improve simply because you call someone an "idiot" or "stupid". More often, you'll get pushback rather than cooperation.
  23. I do think that those ads are based at least partly on your browsing history, although you CAN turn off the personalization of the ads by clicking the little arrow at the top right corner of the ad, as @iacas mentioned a few posts back
  24. Welcome to TST! Before long you won't be the newest member, you'll be an accepted veteran like the rest of us. I'm in Virginia myself, and nearing retirement as well. My wife and I own a place in Southern Pines, and try to visit a couple of times a year, maybe we can hook up when we're down there again.
  25. If you say your handicap is 100% accurate per the rules, I expect you would also follow the rules as to the posting season in your state. If you don't, if you're choosing NOT to follow those particular rules, then you're not doing the right thing. You don't say where you live, but you're not supposed to choose which rules to follow, and which rules to break.
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