Mr. Desmond

I must talk with people all the time in order to discover their point of view. I may not like them, I may disagree, but I may learn something. Saying it's a waste of time seems like an excuse that you might find something you haven't thought about. Just sayin'. As to feel, I did not see a decrease in feel but then I am no expert. I'm just a sucker, as you say. Yes, that is a snark, and I am trusting to an extent. At the same time, other people are developing putter shafts, but yes, not at $200. Truthfully, I like to try new equipment. I know it may not work, but it's my mad money. And yes, I tried it on a DF putter. As I said, I don't spend much time on sites, and am busy. But y'all enjoy - that's not a snark. Fairways and greens to all, even you Erik. Good luck!

@iacas Funny. I don't think any of us are immune to a suspect purchase. Let those who have not been taken in their life, throw the first stone. Barney Adams put out some quality product in his time, and a certain trust factor exists with his name. TXG seems to like it. Me snark? - a little, but you are the king of snark on this site - just sayin' since you mentioned snark. Anyway, instead of raking BGT over the coals, why not call them at their phone number? It's easy to talk behind people's backs, as we all know and all of us have done, it's better to call them on their claims, see what they see, tell them what you don't see, and share an intelligent discussion. The inventor of the shaft was at the facility when I stepped in. Call and then share it with us. You have more knowledge and analytical skills than most in this area. Give'em a call.

Apparently, quite a few Touring Pros were also "taken". Some people are pioneers and they get the arrows in their back. Appreciate it.

Here is a post I put together six weeks ago as to the BGT Shaft (around Sep 21) - too much rain to give you data, but I do feel more energy imparted to the ball. I can't give you too much about the results or debate it - too much work lately. It's not like the UST frequency filter shaft, which affected feel (I still own one of those in a putter).Breakthrough Golf Technology is located just north of Dallas proper and I called to bring my putter to them. Once I arrived, I met with the crew, who had easy smiles and invited me in as a friend. We talked shop and they explained that the shaft not only gets the face square and vertical at impact but it moves the balance point slightly downwards so you obtain more clubhead feel, which also helps those with lighter weight heads for feel. You might notice the shaft is larger diameter towards the top, and stiffened again about 9 inches before the head where a smaller diameter steel portion of the shaft attaches to the putterhead.The crew spoke about feedback with players on Tour and they are adding players every week even if you don't see the BGT shafts in the bag, the pros may have the shafts as their backup until they play more with them.As to some of those who are skeptical, they've given the shafts to older tour players (Tom Watson), and some of those players want to "feel the lag", believe it or not, in a putter. They found those players putted better with the BGT shaft even though they did not "feel the lag." The discussed tour players going back, forth, and then back to it as they grew to appreciate it. We discussed that it may not be for the long and flowing Crenshaw type stroke only due to the fact that they want some twisting (feel the lag), but for modern players, the stroke is shorter, and faster.The data showed that regular steel shafts do twist - now remember, we're talking about getting a golf ball into a 4.25 inch diameter hole - how many of your putts are lipping or burning the edges? You hardly have any margin for error in putting. And as heads have gotten heavier over the years, the shaft has remained the same. I remember putting with 320g heads 20 yrs ago; those heads are now 340+ grams, and it's common for blades to come in at 350g and mallets at 360-420+grams. Putting is precision, and if you're off just a lip out, it's still another stroke. The BGT shaft is not about affecting feel, but obtaining a square and vertical face at impact. Hope I said that right.The installation was quick; I'd brought a grip and within 30 minutes or less, I could have been out the door. But I stayed for the quick tour and took a look at the Quintic - see the screen.Results? The shaft did not affect feel, but the putter itself felt smoother through the ball - something was different (more energy? consistent strikes?). I performed a Blast Golf Sensor test afterwards and after about 20 putts - I looked at the data and my forward and back rotation were closer to equal (previous to the shaft, they were not that close), the lie angle stayed more constant, and the loft change was negligible as compared to pre-BGT. My tempo was more consistent - about 1.8-2:1, and the stroke timing was better - faster and with less effort from .9-1 second.And as soon as it stops raining (Oct 31 now), I'll have it on the course more. I may not know the results until Spring. The guys are great, I even met the guy who developed and idea and also, Barney Adams again - I'd met him before Adams went big when I bought his first set of "almost" blades over 20 yrs ago. Barney is usually near Palm Springs, and I was fortunate to see him.

Well, that Skill Code was about working the ball, not the mechanics of the downswing. 90% of my work at the range is sequencing the downswing, getting off the back, bumping the hips, getting onto the front foot, and opening the hips and turning the chest ... so yes ...

If you're referring to my post, I hit the i210, i500 and Mizuno 900F off the outside range at the same time in not the best fitting shafts - both Pings were 80g CFS shafts, while the Mizuno was steel - PX 5.5. Then I hit the JPX919F with a fitted shaft, the i210 and i500 with the Recoil 780 SmacWrap on the sim. But not my first rodeo - I'ma ho' of the first degree.

I would only say - 'Restroom" I guess gender neutral clarifies boys or girls - or maybe those terms are not politically correct. Speaking of which, saw a blurb on Vice News about Gender Neutrals - they are trying to eliminate all reference to "his" "her" "he" "she" Guess I am getting old and older ... or these kids are living in a fantasy world ... or I'm living in the past. As we say in Texas, "It just ain't right."

I think the original MTB may spin better around the greens than MTB Black for me. In 2018, I've played the MTB Red, MTB Black, ProV1X and Chrome Soft - I'm in with the CS as a great all around ball for my game. Distance and greenside spin, and that feel thing. Good luck! I like the Snell Black - just need more greenside spin. It rolls. CS hits, spins, stops. Writing note to Dean 'cause I want to buy them.

Depends on how you hit them - the 5 wood has a bigger profile in the rough, and as a result, a hybrid is usually easier to get up and out from the deeper stuff. The HY also has a shorter shaft - I play a 5 wd at 42 inches and some HY 3 are 40.5. Does that affect consistency? Maybe. Maybe not. The 5 wood at 18 degrees or so will give you more distance (generally) and flight higher. When both are fit, I find more consistency with the 5 wood. Bigger head is more forgiving off tee and fairway and not shabby out of not too deep rough - depends on the footprint. I find lower lofted hybrids are tougher re consistency, and I don't play any hybrid under 20 - a Rogue 4HY is as low as I'll go because it's not a high spinner and need more shaft help to launch - it's my heavy wind day hybrid. You've just got to hit both because I found that people take to both fwys and hybrids differently. Another odd factor is that I thought a D2 swingweight would work well for me - but my best long club is the 5 wood at D0. So I changed my other fairways to D0. Funny game, and it affects all of us differently as to club selection.

OP, Ping makes great irons - I like both the i500 and i210, but I ended up with the Mizuno 919F because the fit - the head and shaft - PX LZ Tour 90 Graphite - seems a good fit. I was getting more distance than the i210 in graphite, although with power specs, I would recapture some yardage if I had sufficient spin. I like the i500s bit thought the 919 would give me consistency, forgiveness, and almost as much distance. The equipment is so good these days - it's just what works for you in getting fit and whether it meets what you need in an iron.

Senior flex - typically, it's tough for those with senior flex to get enough height/carry with a 3 wd unless it's use is as a second driver. I'd look at a 5 wd, forget the 4i, get a high launching 4H. BUT start playing and see how the bag works - if the 4 and 5i are not getting enough height and consistency, consider hybrids or even a 7 or 9 wd. As to the LW, depends on your short game, wedge fitting and technique. Most ams play too little bounce in their wedges - get fit after more work on the swing. Good luck!

No accuracy problems with the SC200 - mph is a little higher than Trackman by a couple of mph. It sometimes will miss a ball, I'll reposiiton and it will take the reading. Sometimes, I must thurn the unit off, then on. But otherwise, it's fine for its purpose. It's a useful tool for feedback. I understand they are developing something to compete with Mevo.

Almost 5.5 months with the Glides 2.0 Stealth in 50 SS, 56 ES and 60 SS - it's a good combo for me. The ES is excellent out of bunkers, rough, tight lies, chipping as is the 60 SS - holed a LW from below the green from the rough just two weeks ago. It just pops up nice and soft. Open, square - it doesn't matter - leadng edge stays low - excellent! Most versatile wedges I've owned, and I've owned a lot of different wedge OEM's. As to the 50, for me, a 50 is a 50 - I could do my iron set 50 and be fine. But my irons are graphite and I prefer heavier steel in the 50 for chipping around greens. It offers more stability on shorter shots. The Pings can get up in the air but you can flight them. My only wish is - I want Ping to offer the Nippon Pro Modus 3 Wedge 115 in this head - although the AMT 2.0 may be in cooperation with Nippon - I wish it flighted a bit lower. Ping does not discount and if they are going to be proud, I would like more shaft choices designed for wedges - Nippon. Feel? Excellent in 8620 steel. Such a big improvement over stainless. Grinds? They work. As to wear, yes the black does wear off on the sole first - but it is more of a dull raw that blends in well with the black. The face will wear where hit, but it is the most durable black I've played, and I've played a lot of black wedges. But I need white paintfill for loft for easier ID. Hope this helps. As to the Glide Forged, the grind appears to be between the SS and TS? Grind - less bounce - 8 on the LW. If I were playing a links course, it may work. Price? $199, which is $60 more than 2.0 Stealth. Only a slightly smaller head and no cavity - tungsten on toe moves COG to center, which helps. Good looking wedge - but only useful, I expect, if you come in shallow or neutral.

Oh my ... someone is drinking Kool-Aid.

Nope - not retired, 2 yrs ago at 60, I started my swing change. Take lessons, have a course 5 minutes away with a great range. Overall game has improved and still putting it all together. Don't wait too long because it is a process.