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  1. OK so I did my 1 hour fitting session for irons with True Spec Golf at Lake Nona which is right next to the Orlando airport, what a beautiful place. I am currently waiting for my Trackman datato be loaded but the short of it was that the irons I'm hitting are not optimal for me anymore. I was playing Mizuno MP-54 (which are forged clubs) with TT Dynamic Gold S300 shafts. The initial data said my 7 iron carry was about 138, and I typically play it for length of 150. So it wasn't that far off but when I hit it off center I lost 10 yards or more. Also the fitter noted that my smash factor was lower than he would expect (although I do not remember the number). Skipping to the end what I ended up with were the Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro with KBS TGI 701 shafts. So a bit more whippy a shaft and a bit more forgiving a club head. As a compare the carry became 152 with the new irons/sticks but I do recognize that the MP-54 7 iron was 34 degrees and the new 7 iton is 31 degrees, so that's where some of the distance came from. The rest came from a lighter graphite shaft and hopefully the "hot metal" club face. I will load the trackman data once it is available. The best part was even off center hits traveled almost as long as center hits. As I'm getting older and losing distance and making poorer contact, I was happy to see that. My review of TRUE SPEC GOLF would be: PROS: Very professional facility, huge manicured range with all the targets greens and other practice facility stuff you'd expect and then some. The fitting is loaded with endless choices in sticks and shafts. Very professional fitting explaining everything as we progressed, and the guy knew what he was doing. Very impressive setting too, basically everything was top shelf all the way. I will also explain that the fitting was an hour for $125. Also, you can literally walk if you want to with your trackman data and if you think about it, for just $125 it is a great investment when you are looking at $1000 or more for the equipment even at the lowest price you can find. We also found that the clubs I was playing were not custom as I have been told, they were not 2 degrees flat as I had ordered for instance CONS: The price quote I got for the irons to be ordered and made was a little short of double what you'd pay for "off the shelf" clubs online. Considering that I've never felt that I got what I wanted and the fitter confirmed that for me, they guarantee I will get what I ordered, and so I ordered them. It'll be quite a change for me. More to come when my trackman data shows up.
  2. I totally agree. I spent a lot of time on drivers that I had trouble controlling. They gave me some extra length when I hit them right, but I found myself out of the fairway a lot. Then I found my latest gamer and it wasn't cheap, an 8.5 degree Titleist 913D2 but the amount of confidence that I have when I step up to the tee is a great feeling. I literally know I'm going to hit the fairway with it. It's aging now and I am getting older too and the loss of distance is concerning, so following this post is great insight into the replacement process which will become eventual for me.
  3. Sounds like you had fun as well as gained some insight. I always find it a lot of fun to hit clubs and see the results but also find it's hard to find a shop that will allow you to spend that kind of time in the bay hitting. 17 yards of carry is a nice gain from just an equipment change and as far as the cost, don't think of it like it's $300, think of it more like it's only $17.65 a yard Question: Were you able to change shafts as well or were you hitting whatever shaft was in the demo club? Just wondering if the shaft might have had some effect on your results and/or if you were able to isolate that variable or not. Keep us informed of the Tour Edge/Exotics results. It would be really interesting to see your results on those vs the data you've already posted.
  4. TXGolfDude, Here also is a link to the 2018 MyGolfSpy article rating 3 woods for 2018. Given it's 2019 now I'm sure any improved technology between now and 2018 is almost immeasurable, although I'm sure you'll find marketing pitches that contradict that. 2018 MOST WANTED FAIRWAY WOOD 24 Fariway Woods, 20 Testers, the largest unbiased head-to-head 3 wood test in the world. Short Story is #1 = Exoitics CBx, #2 = Callaway Rogue, #3 = Callaway Rogue SubZero, and there are many others included. I always take these types of things with a grain of salt. "The Best" tend to come from some method of aggregating the data of the test results and the only thing I can be sure of is that my results will almost surely aggregate differently. Then of course there is always the argument of how much a particular company might have "donated" to this test group and how that might influence the results. Also I believe the right shaft is a big variable in anyone's swing but I could not find what shaft manufacturer was used in the testing so I have to assume they used what ever the stock shaft was that came in the club (noting that sometimes there can be different shafts used within the same year by the same club manufacturer). Still this information is very interesting, and although it does not answer your question how much better they are than your 2008 gamer, you might take your gamer and try some of these clubs in the list to see how they compare. Good Luck!
  5. I was speaking of the Rocketballz fairway woods, but yes I've heard the irons were long too. 🙂
  6. Anyone ever use True Spec Golf? They are a custom fitting company that from the advertising looks impressive. I am headed there within the next few days for a custom fitting for irons. Just wondering if there are any experiences out there that I might draw from. Thanks in advance!
  7. I am still hitting fairway woods that are 2007 Callaway Big Bertha myself. Like you I am getting older (really you're still a kid!), and I'm losing a little distance and want to find equipment that will get some distance back. I bought some Tour Edge Hot Launch fairway woods last year and I couldn't hit them no matter what I did. I got a good deal and decided to give them a go but sold them for half of what I bought them for and went back to my Callaways. I agree, go find the nearest TrackMan center and hit 3woods until your hands bleed. Either that or go pay for a custom fitting for fairway woods with one of the custom fitting centers like Club Champion or True Spec. I myself am in need of new irons (the heads are wearing) and so I am headed to True Spec. I could not find anything about them out here so I will start a new post letting everyone know how it goes. Lastly, I got to believe that technology has advanced enough over these past 10 years, especially in the shafts of today, that there has got to be an advantage over clubs built 10years ago, but I have no science or data behind that to offer. I remember when the Taylormade Rocketballz came out years ago. I have a friend who is a 2 handicap and has won the state am. twice and the senior state am twice who said he thought they should be illegal!
  8. Well said. When one participates, he agrees prior to the start of the event that he will abide by the rules. The rules and the conditions of competition are published for all to see before each event begins so there is no excuse to not know them. If during play a rule is invoked and a penalty is dealt, no matter how "unfair" one may feel the rule is, one needs to consider his conduct given he has already agreed to abide by the rules at the start.
  9. I didn't start playing until I was 32 and now I am looking at my 30th year this season. I am from the north, northeast (almost Canadian) so we only play 6 months at best out of the year. Although I was reasonably athletic, I was not a natural at golf. Originally I had a big slice off the tee, a frightening chicken wing, zero weight shift, and just about every bad habit you can think of, but a very patient PGA pro helped me. 100: Can't remember its been so long. Feels like it was the first season, but I can't prove it 90: I think it was the second season after taking lessons, but again can't really remember. I do remember the feeling of elation when it happened. 80: I took season lessons again and over about 5 more seasons the slice turned into a draw and I learned how to keep the ball in play off the tee. Also learned how to get up and down about 90% of the time which helped a lot. 70: It took about 10 years to get there and now it happens once or twice every year, but typically the round includes a chip in or two, a long lucky putt, a lot of good misses. Its been 30 years now and still no hole in one yet!
  10. Yes, it is the difficulty when players play in the same flight from different tees in a handicapped competition that we're talking about. I specifically am not referring to any difficulty in administering the necessary adjustments, the methods and procedures can be clearly found in the handicap manual in the sections that have been noted in previous posts. I am referring to what I've found to be the lack of acceptance that some players who typically play from the forward tees seem to have when the proscribed adjustments for playing in competition from different tees is called for. Because of the reduction of the size of our club in recent years we have found ourselves struggling to even get 16 players to sign up for a men's match play event. The committee feels it to not be practical to have a tournament unless they get 16 players or more, so in our case all players play in one flight. The option of moving the players who prefer to play the forward tees back tends to cause them to cancel, as does the option of moving the players who play from further back up to the forward tees. In short I only mentioned this so that the OP, if he is interested, can gain some insight in how the forward player he describes might react when the adjustment is made and in so doing be prepared for it. Currently in the OP post it seems the forward tee player is getting away with some advantage over the others, but hey, he may be totally cool with the adjustment and there might not be a problem. Over time as more and more players move to the forward tees, which is what I am seeing in my club, one ends up having to be prepared to admin the adjustment, but again, only for players playing against each other in a competition from different tees.
  11. More details can be found in Section 3-5 of the USGA Handicap Manual as well. http://www.usga.org/handicapping/handicap-manual.html#!rule-14373 With many club memberships down, more and more clubs are finding it necessary to have to hold competition among players playing from different tees and the adjustment is a new experience to many. Experience at my club has been that many of the guys on the front tees aren't happy. If you find that you have a similar problem, you can contact me and I can share our experience.
  12. Yes that it true, my mistake for not specifying that not following the rules for just a single hole would not cause a score to not be posted. Yes, Section 4 of the USGA handicap manual does come into play there. In my zeal I inadvertently skipped over that fact and thank you for pointing it out. I should have said ".....then he has not played his round by the rules of golf, and if the rules of golf were not followed for enough holes, he must not post his score."
  13. Amen! Intent may have been part of his plan, but it is the execution that goes on the scorecard, not the plan. It is what one does and/or doesn't do that matters, not what one intended to do. Webb should apologize and do it now. I agree it has become way too trendy to complain about the rules when something doesn't work out for somebody. The only guy Webb has to blame is the guy in the mirror.
  14. I'm not sure which was harder to watch, the conversation with his caddie or the shot. There is something to be said for being confident, and I'm not sure there is a word for that level of over confidence but if there is it's probably a 4 letter word.
  15. Love the first sentence and I totally agree. Unfortunately the poor club pros face the wimpy, namby pamby man-children (and woman-children) who don't play real golf every day with their whinny complaints about how unfair everything is for them and how the rules are too strict. (As a side note what do you think of Webb's comments this weekend? Never mind I'm sure there's a post on it already going..) Hey, don't get me wrong, most do play by the rules and don't complain. But the few who don't, consume lots of time and sometimes influence others to behave the same way and when you get 10 or more of these types in the same club.......let's just say people in control need to understand that when exceptions are made, soon everyone else wants exceptions, and next thing you know there are no rules. So I guess my comment about some saying this was an example of the rules being "too strict" was a tongue in cheek comment on my part reflecting what I've seen as an increasing phenomenon over the years to challenge and sometime intentionally violate the rules. It has been frustrating for me upholding the rules while I watch others in the same position as me make unauthorized exceptions. Short story: The owner of a club played in club champion and won by 1 stroke. Upon inspection of his bag by another player he was found to have too many clubs which he admitted he had discovered himself on the turn. Both he and the guy who finished second left the decision on how to handle it up to me as I was the committee on this event for all practical purposes since no one else volunteered to help me. My response was that it wasn't up to me, and that the rules were clear he was to be assessed a 4 stroke penalty, 2 strokes on each of the first two holes. He decided not to accept the penalty and defiantly handed in his card without the extra strokes, causing the committee (me) to have to DQ him. Needless to say the rest of the season was not fun. So to wrap up, there are those out there that will complain the "rules are too strict" and even try to violate them without penalty. It is our job as their peers, under peer review, to exert actions necessary to shut that down (such as you suggest with mampy, pamby, etc, etc). It is then and only then that the system works and the "too strict" comments reduce or better yet are eliminated. Peace.
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