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  1. Interesting discussion and thanks to everyone who gave an opinion. A couple of years ago, I bought a whole bunch of those Kirkland 4-piece balls with the Urethane cover. I played them one whole summer. Lately I've been using a different cheap ball, the Callaway Tour Soft, and it seems to me that I used to hit that Kirkland ball a lot farther, especially with my driver. So I was wondering about the difference between a premium ball and a cheap ball for an average hacker like me. It seems like nowadays when I take a good hard swing with my driver and hit the ball flush, it takes the same trajectory as it used to, but when I get to where it wound up, it's just not as far as it used to be when I was using the Kirkland ball. But based on what I have learned since the original post, if I did hit the Kirklands farther, I'm now thinking it was probably because of warmer weather, or dryer and harder fairways, or some reason that doesn't have to do with what ball I was using. Maybe it's because I'm getting older. I've still got a couple of dozen of those 4-piece Kirklands, so I might pull them back out and see if I can detect any difference.
  2. So I'm an average hacker, drive the ball about 200 to 240, shoot in the mid to high 80s, and my question is, at that level, how much difference does it make what kind of ball I am using? I get balls at Costco, usually Callaway Toursoft or whatever they have on sale for about $24 for 2 dozen. It usually comes out to around a dollar a ball. Should I be more discriminating about what kind of ball I use, or at my level, does it make very little difference?
  3. But how would you ever know them if you don't watch them because you don't know them?
  4. I watch the LPGA a lot more than I used to. 1) I find the players a lot more attractive these days than they used to be. I know that's kind of sexist, but there it is. 2) I enjoy the slower swing speeds. There are some really nice swings out there on the LPGA Tour. 3) I don't care if Asians dominate the tournaments. I like Asians.
  5. I totally agree with all of that. Here are some of my thoughts: What happens if the people who make the equipment and the balls say, "We make money selling equipment and balls to the average golfer, who wants and needs MORE, not less distance. Therefore, we will not be participating in any sort of rollback of distance." And what happens when the pro golfers who make millions from endorsing such equipment say, "We make our money on endorsements. Therefore, we will not be using any sort of ball or equipment that amateurs don't want to buy, and we will not be participating in any tournament that mandates that we cannot use the same equipment we endorse. In fact, we will form a new tour if we have to where we can use the balls and clubs that we endorse." These people are forgetting where their money comes from. Dustin Johnson doesn't buy golf clubs. I buy golf clubs. If they don't want pros to drive the ball 340 yards, they can fix that by putting hazards out there at the spots the longest players can reach. Make them lay up. That seems like a pretty easy solution.
  6. I have heard the term "bomb and gouge" but only on the golf channel, and only a few times. The vast majority of golfers, the ones who are the real fundamental financial underpinning of the sport, want more distance, not less. If you take even just 10% of the distance away from the average hacker out there, I would bet that hundreds of thousands of them would just give up the sport. It's the millions of average golfers that buy the clubs and the balls, and it's those people that the advertising on TV for PGA Tour events is aimed at, and those advertising dollars are what finances the PGA Tour. If you hurt the average golfer, you hurt the PGA Tour. Is there a real problem here? Are the TV ratings down? Are they selling fewer tickets to PGA Tour events? I think the answer to both those questions is no, but even it the answer is yes, is it because Dustin Johnson hits the ball too far? Really?
  7. I may be wrong about this, but here is my opinion anyway. The real financial underpinning of the golf industry as well as the game played at the elite levels for big money is the millions of amateur golfers who buy the clubs and balls and pay the greens fees and take the lessons, and who shoot in the 80s and 90s. That's where the billions of dollars that support professional golf really come from. Those people are not demanding a reduction in their distances. In fact, any action to reduce their distances or make the game even more difficult than it already is would cause a lot of them to give up the game. And that would severely damage the sport. In addition, I don't I don't see any demand among the average golf fan to have the PGA Tour reduce distances. Zero. I know Jack Nicklaus used a one-iron for that famous shot that hit the pin on that par-3 in the US Open. And I know that same shot requires a lot less than a one-iron now. But who cares, other than Jack?
  8. Marty2019

    Pace Problem

    Just speaking from my personal experience, without any data to back it up, I see slow play being caused by bad golf. I'm not talking about the slow play problem on the tour; I'm talking about the average hacker. It takes a lot longer to play 100 shots than it does to play 70. I know you guys would never do this, but I solved my regular group's slow play problem by suggesting we play a scramble. I mean "captain's choice," take the best shot. Either 2 men vs 2 men, or all 4 on the same team. If we play a 4 man scramble, guys who would normally hit 90 or 100 shots, including putts, in a round of golf are now hitting 70 shots in the round. It has sped up our play tremendously, and it's fun, too.
  9. You make a very good point, but I think one other reason a lot of golfers have a tendency to hit it short instead of long is because on most courses, short of the green is safe and over the green is disastrous.
  10. GIR is king if you want to break 80, but I think if you want to break 90, usually the biggest problem is driving the ball in the fairway with some distance. That's just my limited personal observation. The tee shot costs 90-ish players more strokes than anything.
  11. So, playing without a swing thought. Lately, I have had some decent results with hitting the ball as soon as possible after addressing it. I see so many of my playing partners standing over their ball, thinking, thinking, thinking, and inevitably, they longer they stand over the ball, the worse they hit it. But in response to the original post, I suppose I do have those types of swing thoughts. I do stand behind the ball to make sure of my alignment, pick out a spot on the grass about 5 or 10 feet in front of me to line up on, and I try to relax, and remind myself to accelerate past the ball, to fight my tendency to decelerate at the bottom of the down swing. Those type of thoughts. Just not during my swing.
  12. I think you have to work on everything, but for sure spend a lot of time on driving. That's where most average golfers get in the most trouble- either hitting their drive into a hazard, or not hitting far enough to give themselves a shot at par. Secondly, lag putting. Don't three putt.
  13. That's really funny. Seriously, I read that paragraph and I busted out laughing.
  14. I remember when there was a move to boycott Chic-Fil-A, and noted liberal John Stewart went on his show and said, paraphrasing, "Boycott? Are you crazy? These are delicious chicken sandwiches." I think the whole country has gone off the deep end with the politically inspired boycotts. So, heck yes, I would play one of his courses, whether I like him or not. If you don't like the guy, register to vote and vote. < (I think that is a non-partisan statement. I'm trying to remain non-partisan here. )
  15. I like the 4 piece ball a lot. I think they're a really good golf ball for a dirt cheap price ($15/dz) and they have performed very well for me. I have no experience with the 3 piece ball.
  16. One thing I have done recently is trying to feel the slope with my feet. Straddle the line, or stand to one side of your line with your feet perpendicular to the line, and it's amazing, very often your feet can feel the slope better than your eyes can see it.
  17. I wonder if the "Dilly dilly" ban was paid for by Budweiser. "Banning" their catch phrase is really to their benefit, as we have seen already.
  18. I don't necessarily agree with all of that. I agree that he has been a dick in the past, but I don't know that that necessarily means that he IS a dick. He might be a perfectly nice guy who's emotionally inconsistent, like Bubba Watson. How can we really know these people? We stand off at a distance and see them do something, and based on that very small random sample, we judge them without really knowing the totality of who they are.
  19. She's from Sweden, not Switzerland. But about your hoping an American wins, I may be unusual in this regard, but I don't particularly root for Americans unless it's an American team in the Ryder Cup or something like that. I generally root for players regardless of where they come from.
  20. That's a great explanation. So, if the right shoulder comes up on the back swing, the right side has to stretch, and some of that stretch naturally comes from the right leg straightening somewhat. It's so encouraging when I learn stuff like this, but at the same time, it's aggravating that it took me 50 years to learn it.
  21. Regarding Tiger's chances of winning, as best I can tell, over his career, Tiger won about 1 out of 4 tournaments he entered, and he finished top 10 in about half of them. So, in my judgment, based on a 42 year old Tiger who is probably not quite his old self, would set the odds of Tiger winning the Masters at about 15%. I would set the odds of him finishing top-10 at about 40%. Right now, if I had to pick a player, I would put my money on Bubba Watson. If I had to pick 5 players, I would pick Tiger as one of the 5.
  22. What a coincidence! I just started doing this, too. On my back swing, I keep my head centered over the ball and even try to move it very slightly forward. The only way to do this is to straighten the right leg somewhat. In my case, it's part of an all out attempt to eliminate fat shots, and combined with some other things, it seems to work. It's definitely improved my ball striking with my irons.
  23. Okay, here's my little story. We're playing a couple of days ago, on a very familiar course, and we come to hole #6, which is a par 5 with a sharp dog leg right, sand all down the left, water all down the left beyond the sand. so if you hit the ball too far you're at least in the sand if not in the water. Three very tall pine trees are in the corner of the dog leg on the right. Most people would aim to the left of the pine trees, and try to fade it a little to the right. There's a groundskeeper working on the back of the tee box, and he shuts off his machine and waits for us to tee off. I step up to the tee, and I figure if I just swing a little harder, and relax my my hands a little, I'll hit a baby fade around those pine trees. (That works about half the time.) So I take a mighty swing, and block a MASSIVE drive which is heading straight for those very tall pine trees, and the ball goes up up up and OVER the pine trees, barely clearing them, comes down on the back of a little hill, which kicks the ball forward down the fairway towards the green. The ball must have rolled about 80-100 yards because the fairway was dry and hard. It was just a little mistake which turned out really well. Of course, I acted like that was what I was trying to do all along. The groundskeeper says, "Wow, nice shot." I drive my cart to the ball and it is WAY out there down the fairway in perfect position. I have no idea how far it was, but for a little old guy like me who normally drives the ball about 230, it was a HUGE drive. And that was my shot of the week, if you forgive the fact that I wasn't actually aiming there. I topped my second shot, hit a little pitch on to the green, and birdied the hole.
  24. A few suggestions: 1) look at video. That could tell you a lot. 2) slow down and focus on fundamentals. Be calm and analytical. Think about what is happening and why it might be happening. Take more time between shots. 3) Relax. Usually frustration leads to tension, which leads to more bad shots. 4) find a club you can hit, hit that one, and think very carefully about what is the difference in your swing with that club vs the clubs you are hitting poorly.
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