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  1. I do not know how many "conversations" I've had with one of my clubs "specialsts" on the putting stroke.  Trying to counter their short backstroke/long throughstroke is almost a lost cause.  This post is really nice input for my next conversation.

    I started golf with a short backstroke, and was encouraged to accelerate through the ball on all putts.  It is just like you described Erik, on longer putts I was totally useless.  My pro had me do absurd long backstrokes to work me out of my habit.  Took me months to get a good feeling, but today I consider myself ok on lag putts, and three-putts more an exception than the rule.  Encourage anyone who is struggling with lag putting to read this post.

  2. I use it in my putting. My routine is eyeing a spot on the intended line and try to align the line on the ball to that target. Get back behind the ball to assess move if necessary, align putter with the line on the ball. Keep eyes on ball and stroke. At first it took some time and patience. This is more important as you are closer like 15 feet and within. Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

  3. Theres really no such thing as a true SBST putting stroke.  You cant swing something around a fixed point in a straight line.  A better term for it might be, "square back, square through".

    Yes I do agree SBST was not the best name for it but the idea of Pelz I would believe is that you would try to hold the face as square as possible relative to the aim line during the stroke. Read both Pelz and Utley and have tried both approaches. Too me, and here I might be totally wrong, I think people have to basically look at these teachings as references for their own strokes. At least that was my finding. If you would analyse my stroke you would probably say I'm some kind of a mutant between these two approaches, breaking rules left and right, but that seems to work for me. My putting has been much better since I decided to use some ideas from Pelz and others from Utley. I cannot for example use a face balanced putter, and always end up with the same putter design (slight toe hang). And to my "amazement" when I consult my pro for help with my putting, there are always the same 2 things that are the basis for all my problems, aim and stance. If you break that rule, then no matter what grip, stroke or putter type you apply you will always have an uphill battle getting the ball on the right line. If there would be a 700 page putting book / bible focusing totally on aim and stance, that would be my book of preference regarding putting.

  4. I know this is an old thread, but I just bought me a Odyssey #1 i Black series and am loving it. I bought it used (to me it was a bargain I could not refuse) and even still it almost looks brand new. I tried out almost everything before going for this purchase, the new TaylorMade putters that have just been released, SeeMore, Scotty, Cleveland, Rife and almost every Odyssey model. Even though I had my mind set on going for a bigger putter head, preferably a mallet, I ended up with basically the same shape as in my old putter. It is my first putter shift since I got my Scotty in 2007, and although the design is similar, the insert, design and weight distribution of the Odyssey suits me much better, and I see a drastic improvement in my putting stats. If you see one of these give them I try, you will not regret it.

  5. Having seen some excellent putters, it seems to be based on belief, skill and a lot of practice.  You've got to believe that ball will fall into the hole.  The worst putters I've seen have all broken the belief rule and fail and fail again.

    Regarding SBST and Pelz, do those of you who use his methods miss the "feel" in putting as he advocates more of a shoulder turn and dead hands?  I went from Pelz over to something more like Utley basically because I couldn't "feel" anything on long putts, I was all over the place with regards to distance.

  6. I have used Clickgear for the past 2 summers, it is solid easy to use and has plenty of compartments. You can also get a fair amount of accessories for the Clickgear. Last month I bought my son a Microcart, mostly because of adjustability for his smaller bag. The first thing I noticed about the Microcart was that it is much lighter than the Clickgear, both with and without the bag. There was a big difference in pushing the 2 carts. But there are some cons with the Microcart, it has 2 weak points, and in its luggage mode, one of those points is unprotected, which means you have to be careful how you put it in your car, although that is not a big problem due to how light it is. It does rain alot here in Iceland and there is no umbrella holder on the Microcart, which is a big nono for me. If I was buying a new cart today I think all in all I would go for the Clickgear just bcause of how solid thatt cart is.

  7. It is a tough situation, I would think you would have to confront your friend with the things that ate bohering you. But wether he takes the game as seriously as you can only be determined by him. On the other hand the should be able to follow the rules (play the same game) and do it without slowplay.

  8. Originally Posted by ctclippers41

    Seeing that you from Iceland I can only speak for the US when saying that consumerism is fed into our life everyday. Kind of like "keeping up with the Jones," everyone has to have to newest and flashiest looking stuff just to say they have it.

    I don't want to change the subject but wanted to tell you a little about us Icelanders.  Even though we are a part of Europe, Icelanders in general have as far as behavioral pattern goes been compared to US citizens, and keeping up with the Joneses is a big thing for many (read all) Icelanders. I lived in Denmark for 3 years and the 2 nations are miles apart in this respect. The rat race has dampened a bit after the 2008 crash which hit us pretty hard, I needed a new 3 wood last year, but ended up buying a 6 year old one, instead of a brand new.  Demand for new grips and shafts has been higher than new sets last couple of years.  Icelanders are often said to be crazy people and strive to do more than they can handle, I hope we learn something from 2008, look around and smell the roses.  Hopefully some will, the rest (read all) will probably go out and grab  a white driver.

  9. The reason for this post is that I played a round last summer with an exceptionally good player.  He holds a course record on a high profile course in Europe.  Apart from his game which was really nice to watch, I couldn't help but notice how old his clubs were, even his driver had some kind of a rattling sound like something was loose in the shaft. Yet he managed to drive from the fairway on a long par five to set up an eagle, only thing that was relatively new seemed to be his putter.  I always thought that players of this caliber used the latest and greatest in equipment.  The same can be said about the pro at my club, that has irons from 2000 and a driver from 95.  Still he has claimed numerous championships in the last years.

    The majority of the members at my club are replacing irons, driver or wedges it seems every other year.  And still their game sucks in many cases.  I played 2 seasons ago with a guy who was playing the latest Titleist driver (brand new), and told me he just ordered the latest Callaway also just to have an option. To me just changing a set of irons is a challenge, getting used to the feel and so on. Driver can even be harder, and putter to me is the hardest.

    Being interested in new equipment is ok, but the rate the average golfer is replacing his must be more harmful to his game.  Maybe I am looking at this just too black and white, and hoping my points gets across, but finding the right equipment must be the dominant factor for golfer should, and not force himself to keep up with the manufacturers of new equipment.  Most of it seems like marketing anyway.

    (having typed up this post, my 40th birthday is coming up next month, queue in new equipment)

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