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  1. No... it's not shaft kickpoint that makes a shaft cheaper.... If you use a Frequency Analyzer, cheaper shaft has less consistency... that's one.

    Originally Posted by max power

    Clearly you're going to believe what you want to believe.  I made two points-1) that you can often order the aftermarket shaft from the manufacturer, and 2) that the "made for" shaft often differs from the "real" shaft in terms of certain characteristics, not quality.  The made for shafts are usually tailored for the widest possible audience, and the aftermarket shafts are often tailored for the better player.  What are these certain shaft properties that make a shaft cheaper?  A low/mid kickpoint and a soft tip?  Producing a shaft with those characteristics is cheaper than making a high kickpoint shaft?  There are more expensive shafts available, no doubt.  But the difference in quality between a "made for" shaft and a $500 or $1000 aftermarket shaft is a whole lot smaller than the difference in price.

    The research comment was not directed purely at this thread/comment by you.  The cumulative effect of your blanket thread questions and "fact declarations" is the clearest indicator that you lack research.

    And nice job popping into other people's threads just to write "search Google."  Real classy response.


  2. Max Power,

    Disagree....


    I did more than research.  It's based on many People who have been using upgraded shaft from manufacturer.   It's also based on people who have worked in the Golf shaft industry.  I even visited several Golf shaft manufactures in the past.   Not to mention, many hours of conversation with private Club fitters.

    It does not matter if it's from Titleist or Taylormade or any other club manufacturers.  They have less quality in order to be more price competitive.

    That's also why the specs are different.  There are certain Shaft properties that make a shaft cheaper.  They are not different because they are made

    to fit the Club heads.

    Originally Posted by max power

    Completely depends on the club and the manufacturer.  It is entirely possible to order the "real" upgraded shaft with lots of clubs.  And the difference is not so much a quality issue, it's the characteristics of the shaft that usually change (kickpoint, tip stiffness, torque, flex, etc).  Do you do any research before you make statements in here as if they were fact?

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    Originally Posted by ronaldkuntoro

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    Originally Posted by surfnspy

    $300 sounds a little more reasonable. At the time of my fitting Roger Dunn was asking $499 for the DI-6s. Do you get shaft upgrades for less $$ directly from the club manufacturer when place your order?

    Shaft upgrades from manufacturer are not the same with the Aftermarket shaft.   These shaft upgrades have less quality.....

    Yeah I saw on ebay, thos Di-6 priced at $300.   You might wanna check ebay...



  3. Originally Posted by jamo

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ronaldkuntoro

    You mean 2010 British Open???   No I don't see John Daly..... check the leader board:

    http://www.pga.com/openchampionship/2010/scoring/index.cfm

    I did check the leaderboard thank you very much, and by doing that I saw Daly's first round 66 which put him in a tie for third.


    Oh well only in the First Round.  You did not mention that.

    He's at 48th in the Final Leaderboard.... gotta be suck dropping from 3rd to 48th....




  4. Originally Posted by surfnspy

    $300 sounds a little more reasonable. At the time of my fitting Roger Dunn was asking $499 for the DI-6s. Do you get shaft upgrades for less $$ directly from the club manufacturer when place your order?


    Shaft upgrades from manufacturer are not the same with the Aftermarket shaft.   These shaft upgrades have less quality.....

    Yeah I saw on ebay, thos Di-6 priced at $300.   You might wanna check ebay...


  5. Dude.... not another SEARCH ENGINE post....  you are thrashing the thread.   If you don't know.... DON't POST.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by max power

    Then use the search engine of your choice, but try that.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ronaldkuntoro

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Gill

    Ron you have to be the king of threads that could be answered with a simple search of Google or this board. Buy a grip and put it on your 8-iron. See how you like it. Grips are like women. Some are good, some are bad, but it's all a matter of taste.

    Gill

    I kinda tired reading "Seach on google".   What a forum for?  Why would I use a forum if everything can be found on Google??




  6. Originally Posted by The Gill

    Ron you have to be the king of threads that could be answered with a simple search of Google or this board. Buy a grip and put it on your 8-iron. See how you like it. Grips are like women. Some are good, some are bad, but it's all a matter of taste.

    Gill

    I kinda tired reading "Seach on google".   What a forum for?  Why would I use a forum if everything can be found on Google??

    Do you tell someone to Search on Google Map when they are asking for directions on the street???  If you do... then you are being rude.



  7. Originally Posted by jamo

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ronaldkuntoro

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nickel_aTm

    This reminds me of a quote in John Daly's book.  At some tournament, Daly was having a beer (or probably six) with some other players when Tiger passed through in workout gear to go lift.  John told Tiger to skip it and come have a drink.  Tiger replied (paraphrased) "John, if I had your talent I wouldn't have to work this hard."

    If you combined Tiger's mental makeup and work ethic with Daly's raw talent, you'd have BY FAR the greatest golfer of all time.  But it's an imperfect world -- with Tiger still in his "funk" following getting busted and Daly in his ever-changing "funk" that is his life.

    John Daly has not been on the leaderboard for a loooong time... The last I saw him on TV was on 2006 Tournament in San Francisco Harding Park Golf course.....  He was playing a playoff against Tiger WOODS and he lost.

    FWIW Daly was among the leaders at the British last year.

    Tiger doesn't release a lot of the specs of his golf clubs, so it's hard information to find. Just Google it. If you really want to figure it out, find a picture of Tiger Woods and do some geometry.


    You mean 2010 British Open???   No I don't see John Daly..... check the leader board:

    http://www.pga.com/openchampionship/2010/scoring/index.cfm

    I posted two videos of Tiger swinging Driver and 3 wood on this thread... Maybe you can help with the Geometry on that....



  8. Originally Posted by Radford Wooly

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LargeMarge

    He was a great player - and has god given talent. He had the opportunity to be the best and threw it away. Since he drug himself through the mud, He has no place next to names like Nicklaus, Hogan, and Jones. Now he has a headful of shame and regret and I for one hope he shanks every iron, slices every tee shot, and chili dips every wedge for years to come. God may giveth, and God may taketh away. Perhaps some of you have forgotten - this is supposed to be a gentlemens game.

    -LM

    Such hostility towards Tiger! I got it, LargeMarge is actually Tiger's Ex-Wife!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Explains a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So many Tiger Hater in my Thread.....
    http://thesandtrap.com/forum/thread/43885/tiger-s-driver-clublength

    A simple question on Tiger became a Tiger Thrash talk.....




  9. Originally Posted by sean_miller

    As usual, the correct answer isn't included.

    White drivers to match white belts.

    Sean Miller

    As usual, one useless reply....

    White Drivers aren't new innovation.... Ive seen White, Pink, Blue, Gold, Red  headed Drivers before.....

    And A Poll does not have ONE CORRECT ANSWER.   It's not multiple choice question where there is one correct answer.



  10. Originally Posted by LargeMarge

    Its like reading a classic tragedy - watching the fall of Tiger. Guilt and shame are continuing to erode his ability to play the game to the level he was once capable of.

    I've got 10 bucks that says he loses his tour card within 5 years.

    See:

    http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20110210/NEWS/110219938?p=1&tc;=pg

    -LM


    I bet he will win 10 more Majors and regain his No.1 Status......


  11. Originally Posted by mtsalmela80

    We need more golfers to humiliate their families with affairs, break their children's hearts, and then start to suck.


    I couldn't care less about a Golfer personal life.  Since I don't know the Golfer personally.  What I care is what he does on the Course....

    BTW  can we comeback to the original Question:  What's Tiger current Driver length???  Does any one knows?




  12. Originally Posted by nickel_aTm

    This reminds me of a quote in John Daly's book.  At some tournament, Daly was having a beer (or probably six) with some other players when Tiger passed through in workout gear to go lift.  John told Tiger to skip it and come have a drink.  Tiger replied (paraphrased) "John, if I had your talent I wouldn't have to work this hard."

    If you combined Tiger's mental makeup and work ethic with Daly's raw talent, you'd have BY FAR the greatest golfer of all time.  But it's an imperfect world -- with Tiger still in his "funk" following getting busted and Daly in his ever-changing "funk" that is his life.



    John Daly has not been on the leaderboard for a loooong time... The last I saw him on TV was on 2006 Tournament in San Francisco Harding Park Golf course.....  He was playing a playoff against Tiger WOODS and he lost.



  13. Originally Posted by Shorty

    To RonaldKuntoro -

    Almost everything you write on this forum is ill-informed and upside down.

    You stated that "Tiger still the best" when he clearly isn't. And then, in effect,  admit that you wouldn't know because you don't watch a lot of golf.

    Then you reply that you aren't a golfer just because you "WATCH a lot of golf." What is that in relation to?

    You keep blurting things out that don't make sense.

    Regarding your original question (demand), why didn't you just Google "Tiger Woods driver length"?

    To SHORTY

    Your answer is also OFF TOPIC... I asked kindly what's current Tiger Club length?

    And you insult me by saying I don't watch a lot of GOLF and my threads are junks.   And tiger is not the best driver.... blablabla.

    YOUR REPLY IS ALSO DON'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE AND IT'S A JUNK.

    Please don't waste this Thread if you don't have anything to say...

    Why do you even need a Forum if you can just google the information?  The answer is Because Forum is more Up to date....

    BTW Like I said, Watching Golf on TV is Boring (even Golf Digest wrote about this before).... Tiger makes the Tournament FAR more exciting....And I'm not talking about spitting and club throwing..... Tiger's approach shots are very beautiful.....



  14. Originally Posted by Shorty

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ronaldkuntoro

    Dustin Johnson can outdrive him anytimeee......   But Tiger still the best....

    You obviously don't watch a lot of golf.  Tiger would not be one of the top ten drivers on tour, and hasn't been for quite a few years.

    I don't WATCH a lot of GOLF maybe just once a week on CNBC.    But instead, I spend most of my spare time PLAYING golf....

    You are not a Golfer just because you WATCH a lot of Golf......

    PS.  Watching Golf without Tiger is like watching a Chess Match....

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