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  1. Actually , I do like these 3-D analysis You Tube videos by Shaun Webb . Now this is cool stuff (below is example video). As Iacus said , won't improve your golf swing but might improve your perception of what is going on in a 'high level' golfer's action.
  2. I've been revisiting this endless belt concept and imho it does seem flawed. If I just imagined I was an adjustable camera that could continue pointing normal to the changing swing plane (ie. formed by the front of the left forearm and clubshaft - left arm flying wedge) from the top of the backswing to impact, the real hand path would look different to these 'face on' views. 1. From the top of the backswing to maybe end of the early downswing (left arm horizontal to the ground, right arm/wrist still still retaining its angles) , the radius of the hand arc would probably be the dista
  3. Pardon me , his full name is Edward A Tischler . I call him Ed as its short for Edward. If TGM is too outdated how about the Tutelman site http://www.tutelman.com/ I forgot to add that if the thread initiator really wanted to delve into the 'Twilight Zone' , there is always Jack Kuykendall website with his alternative views. http://www.kuykendallgolf.com/Members/default.cfm
  4. Reading and watching any golf stuff (whether it looks weird, gimmicky or reasonably sensible) is a bit of a hobby of mine. 1. For learning more about biomechanics - Ed Tischler has some good videos on you-tube . He has also published some books on how to perform various tests to determine your own unique biomechanical patterns. Note: Ed doesn't promote any specific swing but basically says you can find a swing that you can own and fits you. 2. If you want to learn a bit more about TGM (Physics and Geometry of the golf swing) all free of charge then I'd go with Dr Jeffrey Man
  5. I think I now understand where I'm going wrong with COP variances while COG stable. We have moving masses where the COG is stable , but to slow/stop those masses rotating around that COG , one needs to use the legs to brace and slow them down. To do that brace, one needs to push into the ground (to create bracing shear forces). Therefore , even though the ratios of mass around the COG axis are approximately the same, there can be more vertical force pushing between legs/feet and ground and therefore higher COP values. For some reason , that bit of physics has eluded me until now (I seem to ha
  6. I think his distinction between swinging and hitting is quite blurry now. Dr Mann started with a definite no-go with regards mixing hitting and swinging but then he has slowly introduced options. Plus he has revised some of his original comments. example: 1. You must not cock your right wrist Then It is quite permissible to allow a natural cocking of your right wrist, especially if the arms are moving up a steeper plane than the shoulder plane. 2. You must keep your flying wedges intact. Then It is quite acceptable to palmer flex (bow) your left wrist fo
  7. Unfortunately , you have to get acquainted with a lot of 'golfing/anatomical/physics' terms otherwise it will be difficult to understand what he's saying. Examples: p positions, flying wedges, hinge, cocking, dorsiflexion, flexion, adduction, abduction, palmer flexion, neutral grip , power accumulators, pronation, supination, circumduction (I think!). Various muscles and bones in the shoulders , pelvis and legs, centrifugal force (although that is a fictitious force), double-pendulum effects (ie. law of the flail) , anatomical flat left wrist, geometrical flat left wrist, base plane line
  8. It was a real real strain to keep my concentration and I suspect I will forget a lot of it within 1 week.
  9. Well I've managed to view all the videos a third time and I know for certain I cannot perform the swing because I just don't have the flexibility. Dr Mann mentioned in these videos that he personally has virtually zero pelvic/torso separation (ie, his hips/spine/shoulders turn together almost immediately) and has to find another way (just like me). If a high handicapper was aware of the specific movement necessities required to conduct a particular swing instruction ,and was aware of his/her own inabilities to make that move, wouldn't that save him/her a great deal of wasted time and effort p
  10. I'm not interested in him as a golf instructor but I do like listening/reading different opinions on golf mechanics/biomechanics. You've now got me wondering what he was getting wrong? Is it because he is still quoting TGM stuff that may be outdated and superceded by newer analyses/data? PS. I think he got into trouble for rubbishing Lynn Blakes 'Secret of Golf' and that wet mop idea. Lynn Blake said you had to feel some PP3 pressure point throughout the swing but Mann said that was incorrect because of the forward flex of the clubshaft (if you looked at images of the club bend usi
  11. I've never actually tested my swing out to see if it traced the base plane line. I know that Homer Kelley said you need to control the clubshaft, clubhead and clubface. This 'tracing the line' business seems to be something to do with controlling/getting the clubshaft 'On Plane' . So that is 1 of 3 things that must be controlled and (as you've said) will not guarantee a good strike.
  12. Isn't this something that Martin Hall suggested (didn't he start promoting that smartstick)? Good luck with your lessons. Will be interesting to see your before and after videos of your swing.
  13. Remember that Dr Mann is not a golf teacher who can tell you 'how to' , but I suppose he may be able to advise you 'what to' just using his mechanics/biomechanics assumptions (IF you think they are correct but no-one can claim 100% certainty). In parallel with all of this mechanical stuff, I've just read a book by Dr H A Murray (The Golf Secret) written many many years ago and this statement stuck in my head. "It is because professionals have overlooked the fact that most of the details of the golf swing are subconsciously performed, that they are unable to analyse it accurately or
  14. I've started viewing the whole lot for a third time (onto video 4 now again). But then the weather in the UK is so crap that there is nothing else to do rather than shiver. Wait until you get to the 'Sam Snead Squat' move but you may also need to get acquainted with Power Accumulators and Pressure Points which are explained quite well on his website but maybe even better here (by 'The Swing Engineer' - he and Jeff fell out due to some disagreement about Aiming Point). http://www.theswingengineer.com/power_package.html Plus, to fully understand his anatomical explanation of t
  15. From what I have basically gleaned from 15 hours looking at these videos is: 1. Swing intact flying wedges. while: 2. Swinging On Plane (ie, through mostly different inclined planes) - ensuring the 2 ends of the club trace the base plane line while moving through these different inclined planes while 3. Rotating in a barrel plus 4. Learn to keep the clubface perpendicular to the swing plane for at least a few inches post impact. A lot of time is spent explaining different golfing terminologies and anatomical positions plus disagreeing with others about
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