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  1. Sorry, I believe I missed read your posting. When I talked about rolling of the hands can cause casting, I refer to loosing your lag too early on your down swing by trying to active the rotation of your hands. The weight of an iron is placed to promote rotation of the club face from open to closed. Centrifugal force helps the rotation to occurred naturally at the bottom of the swing if you have a relax grip. So if you try to rotate your hands too early when you start the down swing, you could find yourself casting. It is hard to lag the club naturally when trying to rotate your hands. Because of that. I try to get the feeling of slightly bowing my right hand (as a lefty) and the rest of the release takes care of itself at the bottom of the swing. So I don't have to think about rotating my hands.
  2. None taken. Watch this video. Yes the release should happen as an effect of the sequence. The problem is that if your grip is not very relaxed you actually prevent the left wrist from bowing. Most of us high handicappers just hold the club to firm to prevent bad shots. That is something i battle with a lot.
  3. IMO it all depends on your skill level. To me if you are shooting over 100 then the score should not matter. Because at that skill level "if" you are trying to improve, the focus should be in making a good swing using fundamentals, grip, alignment, tempo, ball positioning and such. Making every swing the best swing you can put on the ball. Does it really make a difference if you shoot 100 or 112?...I don't think it really does. At that point, is just about trying to have fun, get some exercise and try to implement what you worked on the range. It is more relaxing, more enjoyable and probably you swing better. Now if you are either competing, have a realistic expectation of breaking 90 or 80 it absolutely matters. when I am shooting in the nineties and if during a round I cross to the 100 mark, I no longer keep score. The score no longer matters. I do still stay focus on making good swings and work on my mechanics.
  4. To address the Pro V1 statement; Grab a wedge, and a soft core inexpensive ball like the Wilson Staff Duo (as an example). Bounce it off the wedge's face a few times , then switch to the Pro V1, go back and forth. I wouldn't say the Pro V 1 feels hard, but it feels more firm than the labeled "soft" balls. I did not mean to say that the Mizuno Irons I have, feel hard at all. I agree with you 100%, flush shots feel great with most, if not all balls, but they do feel more firm to me with Pro V1s. Not a loud sound at all either. I noticed that difference a few years ago.
  5. I would try working on learning what a solid strike "feels" like. No matter were you hit from, crappy mats vs, grass, vs better mats. They all might feel different but when you hit a solid shot you should know it. Don't let the ball flight tell you weather you hit a solid good shot or not when hitting from a mat. I can tell weather I nailed my shot or not even before I track where the ball is going...I might get a way with a poorly made swing because how forgiving Clubs can be nowadays but, I still know weather contact was pure and if the shot was fat or thin or too close to the hossle or on the toe. And if it wasn't a pure feeling shot, specially if it is a fat shot I know the ball would have travel a shorter distance on the course or even chunk it. So I try to work on my swing and adjust accordingly. That's is where I find forged Irons to help, perhaps a cast iron older model might not be giving you the feedback.
  6. @Blackjack Don Well, let me tell you what I learned recently that is relevant to what you experienced. A few months ago, I bought a set of Srixon Z565 forged irons. They felt funny and sounded pretty loud when I miss hit them. I did not want to exchange them right away (3 months satisfaction guaranteed) because they were longer and forgiving, so I played and practiced with them as much as I could. The better I swung, the better they felt and the more mute they sounded, the sounded was different with a flatter, upright swing, when trapping the ball well vs not. Even in mats vs grass, dry vs wet conditions and cold vs warm weather, meaning 56 degrees vs 70 degrees temp. I know sounds like too much but that is what I noticed. Not to mentioned I also believe, shafts can contribute to feel and sound. I tried different balls and softer balls helped, but were not the solution. Mizunos forged mx23 were the first legit forged set of clubs I owned so I went for the JPX 900 forged. A sound and feel that I'm familiar with since these replace the MX23....Mizuno said. But YES the tittles pro v1 have always feel a little more firm but not distracting to me. I would play them, but at my level I don't think they are worth the money. Bottom line, a good solid swing makes a lot of difference on how the ball feels at impact and even the sound. Compress the ball and hit them center and you will be surprised. The question is, what set of clubs allows you to miss hit and still give you a pleasant experience.
  7. I love watching the pros playing. I don't even mind watching them during practice rounds. I am planing on going on Wednesday and or Thursday or even Friday, although I have not bought tickets yet. I avoid Sundays because it gets so crowded. I wonder with all the rain we are having if the course will be in fair playable shape. If anyone is going, let me know, may be we can walk a few holes and have a beer. Cheers.
  8. @iacas, as someone who is new to the forum, and after reading the entire post I will tell you that some folks ganging up to discredit the putter creator and a couple of his supporters seems a little too far fetch. Even if the putter does not work as described. Perhaps I just don't understand the culture in this forum. As a suggestion, this threat could have being closed as soon as advertisement was suspected and discussed.
  9. Why is it so hard to believe that there might be another good option for putters? Who in the right mind in the Golfing community would expose their name and credibility in a public forum and other social media for something they don't truly believe to be good? Even if it was for a profit. I get the policy of pay to advertise in this forum like most other forums, as such it is regulated by moderators and owners. You don't buy what the guy is selling, saying or believe? then don't....this prove it to me attitude about a putter a guy believes to be the best is crazy. You are not gonna buy a putter without trying it anyway, are you? I read the entire threat.
  10. I could not agree more with this statement. I would think that most recreational Golfers do not need the top performing ball. As of matter of fact, I would think most players would benefit from a lower spin ball. With a fairly new wedge you can put enough spin on most balls (that are not a rock) to keep the ball close enough for a putt.
  11. I play that course often. It is in fair shape considering how many people play it. The greens are pretty fun. It used to have more grassy areas but to save water they now have some dirt where grass is not a must. 3 metal can be a great club in a few holes, including the first hole. I think you'll enjoy it. Hopefully you can get a good deal.
  12. Jason Day is slow player? I like watching him. Watching slow putting in tv in the other hand drives me insane. As of matter of fact I wish they wouldn't spend as much time showing putting.
  13. Easy for you to say with a 1.5 index. I don't want to spend the money either but I'd rather spend it at the range rather than playing a nice course and have pretty terrible score. I would be happy just hitting balls on weekends a day before playing a round. Unfortunately to get better i either hit lots of balls or take lessons no way around it. I stop practicing when I feel I am making no progress. Then I'll go chipping and putting for free.
  14. There was something not feeling right in my swing for quite sometime, kind of like worse than ever. I am not a very good golfer and I don't have a great swing yet, but I can hit the ball, keep it in play and have a chance for par in a few holes. Something was not working in my swing, it was just feeling weird, I was hitting a weak fade with my irons,, and suddenly i started shanking a lot. When I first started to play golf, I shanked all the time. I remember going to the range and hitting over 75 shanks in a row (medium buckett), no matter what I tried. It was depressing, then eventually the shank would away and I would go back to play. I took lessons from a guy who told me I was standing too close to the ball and that I had other issues that could contributing to the poor contact..so I stood further and the contact was weak, and I mean very poor. After a while the shank would away and I would be hitting it solid again. I struggle with this on and off since I started to play golf. Every time I asked an instructor, they would address other issues that could contribute to the fault but never solve the issue. Finally I figured it out. What else is knew, it seems the most I know about the swing and the very little good I have going in my swing is due to my research, perseverance, pain and suffering. So here are the proven reason why I would hit a weak fade and shank! Fade : 1) poor grip. 2) Not making enough of a turn at the top of the swing, would cause me to come over the top. 3) Open stance. Shank: 1) During the downswing I would bring my left knee(Right knee for a righty) forward towards the ball, this would push my body towards the ball just enough to hit it with the hosle. 2) I was disconnected and throwing my arms out at the ball. 3) poor grip would contribute to open club face. 4) And finally and the most important fault... was the lack of supination on my right hand during the downswing Yup. Apparently I used to do it without noticing, when I didn't do it, it would leave the face of the club open at impact, no matter how hard I tried to close it. I looked and looked at my angles at impact and I eventually I realized there were only a few ways to close that face during the swing: 1 ) Either rotate the face by rolling your hands thru the shot, 2) Supinate, more like Bow my right hand . or 3) to Start the upswing/take away of the club with the face slightly close. By the way 1 and 2 are not the same. The rotation of the face close by rolling the hands is a concept a lot of people call release..I don't cal it that. This type of action will close the face but can promote casting and is hard to compress the ball like that. So straight shots with no zip can be the result. I know because I tried it. Starting the take away with a face slightly close is a great way to do it too but it might not be enough for some people like me. Furhter more you could end up opening the club again further down the swing The bowing of my right hand was what I really needed to work on. After doing some research I found the video I embedded. I had seen this piece of info before and I remember Thom Lehman talking about this piece of the release in the Golf channel but I didn't pay too much attention then. I just came back from hitting a bucket and what a difference...Solid, longer and straight shots with the occasional draw. This issue was very expensive to fix, lots and lots of buckets at the range not knowing what would be the issue, a couple of wasted lesson, aggravation and lots of loss of sleep. So here are the points to keep it straight, solid and longer : I can finally move to other areas of my swing.