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  1. Shot a 74 on friday and based on my ballstriking it should have been lower. It was my best overall ballstriking performance of my life, 13/18 GIR, andagainst scratch golfers I gained .91 strokes off the tee, .88 strokes on approach shots, and gained 1.88 strokes on short game, which is everything inside 100 yds that isnt on the green. The biggest strength was my wedges, by far the best I've ever hit from like 60-110 yds. I had 6 birdie looks inside of 10 feet and I made one, which was a 2 foot tap in birdie. add that in with a 3 putt bogey on a par 5 and compared to scratch I lost just over 3 full strokes putting Kinda a bittersweet round, felt great to hit it that well, just sucked I couldnt get anything to drop. It still was solid enough to drop the handicap a couple tenths down to a new low of 3.1
  2. Committed to be considered: @cipher @iacas @DeadMan @GolfLug @DaveP043 @TN94z @Slim_Pivot @Hardspoon @mvmac @klineka (only for a 9-12 spot)
  3. Highly interested for now, if I do switch to committed to be considered I would only want to be considered for the 9-12 group if that happens, not trying to step on toes of the people who committed before me.
  4. Realized I haven't posted an update here in a while, although not too much has changed with my swing, I'm still in "play mode" and am not really focused on making any swing changes at the moment, just trying to ingrain the full body turn and getting my back completely turned to the target with the driver, it has helped my consistency of strike a lot. Handicap has stayed right about the same, no super low scores but nothing super high either. I have been shooting more E, -1, -2 scores over 9 holes in my rounds, just need to put that together on back to back 9s so I can finally break par for 18 holes. I did swap out my P790 3 iron for an old 3 hybrid and that has filled the distance gap I had at 215-225 perfectly. Here are my stats over the past 9 rounds since I made my last update. I need to tighten up the short game a bit especially out of the rough, I've been leaving a ton of chip and pitch shots short, giving myself 20-30 foot putts for par which I obviously don't make many of those. The stats reflect this too, as my proximity to the hole from 25-50 yds is 2 feet further than it is from 50-75 yds.
  5. If this does expand to 12, I would be highly interested. I will run it by the wife tonight but she typically doesnt mind me doing 1-2 golf trips a year. If not no big deal, I'll live vicariously through you guys just like I did during the Newport Cup
  6. Have you filmed your swing? Good chances are your significantly shorter backswing is longer than you think it is (which isn't a problem, just know that feel isn't real) One of my main practice drills with my irons is making shorter, compact swings, feeling like I stop where Tony Finau does in the backswing, when I go back and look at it on video, it is often close to what some people have as their full length swings. If you are making consistent and repeatable contact that is great especially at your handicap level, when you say slightly shorter length, how far are you talking? If you are only hitting your 7 iron 100 yds then that might be a problem depending on what tees you play from, but if a regular 7 iron goes 155 and your shorter compact 7 iron goes 145 then I would be fine with that for now and work on other areas of your game then once you have a solid foundation on those you can come back to irons and work on adding a bit more swing length/speed.
  7. Sent. Hoping you hear some good news.
  8. Got to play a private course, Pinnacle Golf Club on Saturday and shot an 83. Driver and putting were really solid, approach was average, short game was poor. The rough was easily twice as long as I'm used to and I struggled to adjust to that. Two guys I played with were a 1 and a +1 handicaps so it was awesome to watch them and see how they managed their games. I held my own off the tee with them, out drove both of them numerous times, the biggest difference I noticed was inside like 50 yds. I had multiple double chips and they never made worse than bogey all day where I had multiple doubles. They also tore up the par 5s, the +1 handicap played them at -4 for the day, he was on 3 of them in two shots for two putt birdies and got up and down for birdie from like 70 yds on the other one. In comparison I played the par 5s at +3. Playing with the +1 again next Monday at a different course so it will be interesting to see how he handles a course that he doesnt play 100+ times per season. Here was the view coming into hole 18, a par 5. I was pin high in the left rough in 2 shots after hitting a 260 yd 3 wood off the deck, hit a flop shot to about 10 feet for my best birdie look of the day just didnt get the putt to drop.
  9. No worries at all man, I appreciate the willingness to consider other ideas, that doesn't always happen here. Like I said, if that system works for you, great, just wanted to make you aware that other options exist as well.
  10. This simply isn't true. There are a lot of flaws with this logic. You identified that the golfer is 1 stroke behind a bogey golf pace, but there isn't enough info there using your +- system to determine what the strengths and weaknesses were for that golfer over those 5 holes. Hole 1. You give no + or - shots, when in reality, the fact that the bogey golfer two putted from 25 feet means he putted better than the average bogey golfer on that hole, hell he almost putted as good as a PGA tour player on that hole (average putts to hole out from 25 feet on the PGA tour is right around 1.93) Hole 2. The fact that the bogey golfer drove it in the fairway is likely gaining him some fraction of a stroke against the average bogey golfer who hits less than 50% of their fairways. A long iron to 100 yds out is also likely gaining a fraction of a stroke too since that shot likely went 160-200 yds and in play. You then gave him the + for hitting the green with his short iron, but you ignored the two pretty substantial plusses that preceded the 100 yd shot that resulted in the GIR. Hole 3. Again, you gave him a - rating for that hole, even though they were + on putting for that hole and most likely that mid iron that was hit 5 yds off the green was probably a slight + too compared to average bogey golfers. Hole 4. Same thing. If he chipped it to 6 feet this time then two putted that would be a + on the chip. Hole 5. Again with the putting. That 3 footer should be a + for the bogey golfer, even a 3 footer for a PGA tour player is gaining them fractions of a stroke so it should definitely be a + for the bogey golfer. I guess what I don't understand is how you are able to determine a golfer's strength and weakness in different areas without assigning a + or - to every single shot? Like reading over those 5 holes, you didn't assign any + or - to the putting or chipping but you specifically stated that pitching/chipping and putting are two of the areas you break out. It's not hard if you use strokes gained and compare similar handicap levels. Many? Which most people would consider to be more than half? Not a chance. There is no way that most 20 handicappers reach over half of their par 5s in two. Sample size of 1, but I'm a 3 handicap and I don't even reach half of my par 5s in two, and thats even with me playing from 300-500 yd shorter tees than I realistically should be for my length. Heck I don't even reach a quarter of my par 5s in two and pretty much all of my par 5s are 475-550 yds and I have above average distance even for a 3 handicap. This is exactly what I was talking about earlier. Every shot needs to have it's own rating (which is exactly what strokes gained does) and your system doesnt go detailed enough since your results would obviously be skewed if you gave both of those shots a + but then the player still bogeyed the hole. Again, this has already been measured/quantified for all levels of golfers using strokes gained data. But you can't really. Not using the example holes you provided at least. If I were to come to you with that exact recap of my round and asked you which area of my game I needed to work on more, chipping/pitching or putting, how could you possibly quantify which area needed more work? Or if I asked you how did my driving compare to other bogey golfers over those 5 holes? That's not something, based on the recap you gave, that you would be able to answer. If this system works for you great, but IMO you're making it much harder on yourself and much less accurate than if you were to use an existing stats tracking program.
  11. For regular rounds (which is like 90%+ of my rounds) I arrive 30 minutes before tee time. Check in at the clubhouse then spend the remaining time chipping and putting, mainly focused on how the ball reacts when it lands on the green and speed control of putts. Most of the casual courses I play don't have ranges. Tournament rounds I arrive 60 minutes before tee time, check in and get range balls. I like to take my time and not be rushed for a tournament round. I'll hit roughly 20-30 balls, no specific order, just hitting a few of each "grouping" of clubs like wedges, short/mid/long irons, then fairway wood and driver. If its a narrow course or I know I will be hitting less than driver off the tee, I'll hit a couple extra 3 woods. Then I chip and putt, same as casual rounds getting a feel for firmness of greens and speed.
  12. It's not punishing him, using his current handicap would keep it fair for all players especially since he technically doesnt qualify for that flight anymore.
  13. The fact that an average golfer can't relate to them is a silly reason to root against someone IMO. Keeping that logic consistent you should be rooting against every player on tour then. But when you look at strokes gained off the tee, which combines distance and accuracy, he was second only to Rory. Again, that logic doesn't make sense to me. I'm quite a bit taller and bigger than both of them and I still can't relate to them because they hit it further, straighter, and more consistent than I ever will.
  14. What kind of info are you looking for? That's a very broad question
  15. Assuming you are talking about the '97 Masters, I don't even agree with your opinion on that let alone the Tiger v Jack Debate. In the 2000 U.S. Open Tiger was leading after 54 holes by 10 strokes and ended up winning by 15 strokes, which is the largest margin of victory in a major ever. He played the final round bogey free, and was the only player to break par for the week and became the first player in 106 years of the U.S. Open to finish at double-digits under par. In the 1997 Masters, he had a 9 shot lead after 54 holes, won by 12, had 2 bogeys in the final round, and 10+ people finished under par. So what about Tiger's win at The Masters makes it more decisive than his win at the 2000 U.S. Open?
  16. Just because one player had an out of his mind putting week and got a top 10 in a major doesn't support your claim about there being "plenty of room". It simply doesnt hold true when looking at larger samples of data. There isn't "plenty of room" for shorter hitters. Last season the top 10 players in driving distance combined to win more than the bottom 40 players in driving distance combined.
  17. The only reason Zach Johnson finished anywhere decent this week was because he putted his ass off (Which has quite a bit to do with luck and isn't sustainable on a week to week basis). He gained 9.6 strokes putting over the 4 rounds, which is almost half as many total strokes as he gained in 54 measured rounds last year (19.9 total strokes gained putting) He lost over a stroke total off the tee to the field, and lost over 6 strokes to Bryson off the tee. Johnson also only gained .5 strokes approach to the field over 4 rounds compared to Bryson who gained 7.5 over the 4 rounds. Think about that for a second, Zach Johnson had what was most likely one of the best putting tournaments of his life, was better than the field average in approaching the green, and STILL lost by 12 shots... Some weeks on some courses, sure. But not as a whole across all golfers on all courses over the entire season. The data simply just doesn't support your claim. This was posted on the Superspeedgolf instagram page back in June
  18. There's a big difference between having more in the tank and actually using that extra on the course during a tournament. Bryson has done it and shown that he can still hit it accurate enough to win, nobody else really has. At least not on a regular basis. I know he is still young, but I would be shocked if Wolff gets to the point where he adds 10+ mph to his top end ball speed in a tournament. That would just match him with Bryson too, who has already stated that he is going to explore using up to a 48" driver, which has the potential to give Bryson even more ball speed and I think it's only a matter of time before we see Bryson break the 200mph mark.
  19. Is the current instructor you referenced Mitch or are you working with someone else now? Great progress!
  20. High seventies for me. The majority of my scores this year have fallen in the 75-80 range, and I have been playing "good" golf for me most of this year. A great day for me this year has been 72-74, still havent broken par yet over 18 holes, but I have been playing super consistent golf for the most part so I'm not too upset
  21. Tiger, Morikawa, and JT are paired together the first 2 rounds. JT was 1st and Morikawa was 2nd in strokes gained approach for 2019-2020 and Tiger is widely considered the best iron player ever, looking forward to watching all 3 of them together
  22. I can relate to this, one of the things my instructor worked with me on (and is still a work in progress) is stopping my arms when my turn was done. I had a bad habit of completing the shoulder turn, but the hands and arms would continue to go up and back well after my turn was completed. When I feel like my swing length looks like Finau's, my strike is much more solid and consistent, especially with the irons.
  23. Yep I've played there quite a few times, actually just was out there 2 weeks ago, it's one of my favorite layouts in the central ohio area, I love that stretch from holes 5-9. I tried a new course yesterday, Deer Ridge. I really liked it, shot a 76, which I will gladly take considering how poorly I hit some iron shots. I can tell I am getting better though because it was an off day with my approach shots and I still managed to hit 12/18 GIR. Tee shots were very good, multiple out in the 280-290 range and one that went 325 albeit with at least a 30-40 yard elevation drop from tee box to fairway. Putting was solid too, was really close to being a great putting day, had 4 birdie putts that end up on the lip or lipped out. I am really liking the aimpoint system and my reads are getting really good now, the only ones I struggle to get right are when its a fairly steep uphill putt, I'm have a hard time reading if there is any break.
  24. Myrtle Beach National - Kings North course is a great option too. Arnold Palmer design, has an island par 3, and a par 5 with an island fairway option too
  25. That seems silly IMO that dozens of people wouldn't play it at just over 7,000 yds but they'll play 6,700. If you can handle 6,700 you can handle 7,000. That's like an extra 19 yds per hole if the course was playing at exactly 6,700 and then 7,050. The only thing I could think of would be if the 7,000 yd tees brought multiple forced carries into play which they couldn't carry from 7,000 but could from 6,700. Back on topic, I've never been a part of a club or played in a club championship, but I think any member should be allowed to play, maybe with the exception of professionals, meaning you still have to have amateur status to play, especially because IIRC retired pros can get reinstated as amateurs again so that would cover guys that played on mini tours years ago but now are retired from professional golf.
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