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LeftyWhiff

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  1. I just want to apologize for the way I worded this in the beginning. Using terms like "chickenshit" or "standoff-ish" even in a hypothetical, on the other hand, can be viewed very offensively, and I've offended people. I am truly sorry. The guy in the example in the round I described was not a stranger; he was a friend. He was known to some of us quite well, but hadn't golfed in this group, so some of us were strangers to him. On the issue of what's the expectation/norm with regard to the common scorecard, the message from the responses seems clear: there isn't any and it's perfectly fine not to participate. To expect otherwise or to be judgmental is rude. Treat people with respect, OK, I'm good with that and learned something from this. AGain, I apologize for the offense. I'm the ass here; not the people I golf with. ONe group I play with doesn't ever keep a common scorecard; one does. When I started I played alone and hooked up through the scorer or from folks nice enough to ask me to play with them. Most of the folks who came to the course together to play did seem to keep a common scorecard. I find the practice interesting. Good game; good folks. I learn a lot from all aspects of it.
  2. Good enough, sorry for the confusion. To me it's not so much what happened on the actual round, but what the general expectation is, so: Another way to frame the issue is this: If I personally refused to participate and post my score on a common scorecard when asked to play with a group that did that I had some connection to, would I be violating a norm and come off as "chickenshit" or "standoffish" at some level. Is there a common expectation with regard to this practice? if so what is it? I don't know the answer to either of these questions. The "odd distance" was there didn't seem to me to be as much sharing and discussing during the round, but no one mentioned it, so it could have been my impression. I'm pretty sure with strangers it's never an expectation, and it's never been with any group I've ever played with. Beyond that, I'm ignorant. One group I play with regularly keeps a common scorecard, one doesn't. I've played with a few others that did keep the common scorecard, mostly as a stranger.
  3. Interesting responses. Noone I play with keeps a handicap, so that's not the issue. I don't think anyone treated anyone poorly, and nothing was said or discussed about it then or after. I noticed it and have wondered about it. The issue is etiquette and expectations. My limited experience is that some folks who play regularly together keep a common scorecard, others don't. When I have played as a stranger with other groups, some did and asked me if they wanted me to keep score with them and I declined. I guess there are no expectations or rules of etiquette regarding how much of the experience you share, or are expected to share. Good enough.
  4. I have an etiquette question, but there may not be a standard answer for it.I play in two groups. One keeps a common scorecard and we report our scores to the person in the 4-some keeping score per hole. We also show an interest in one another's game and round. It's a great group to play with. The other group doesn't keep a common scorecard, ever, and some don't claim to keep score at all. The first group is obviously more serious. Anyway, an associate was invited to play in the more serious foursome and refused to report his score to the group's scorekeeper at the first hole. None of the regulars said anything about it, but there was an odd distance in the round not common for this group. What's the etiquette here? If the convention is a common scorecard for the group, should golfers share their score with the group, especially when they are invited to play with them? On one hand, what difference does it make? We weren't betting, certainly not with a relative stranger in the group. If someone wants to put up a fantasy score, let 'em have it. On the other hand, not sharing with folks who invited you to play with them seems rather chicken-shit and stand-offish. Of course, when we play with strangers, noone shares scores per hole or uses a common scorecard. I generally have a good time playing with strangers this way--low stress and you learn a lot about new people and golf stuff. What's the convention, opinion on this?
  5. Interesting topic/discussion thread. Personally, I play much better walking with a push cart. Riding breaks up my rhythm, especially when sharing the cart, and I'm not as tuned to the conditions affecting shots using it. I also find chasing/locating balls, managing cart paths and such a pain, especially riding with a partner, and all that can affect shots as well. All that said, there is one course that I play that is very hilly, and on the last couple of holes there fatigue does affect my score when walking, particularly on a hot day. This year I've walked it most times and I'm in better shape so I notice it less. NO opinion on handicap effects, or adjusting them to walking or riding.
  6. 1. Develop more consistent method/routine for chipping; 2. keep the bag setup as is, and play/practice with 3 hybrids I'm using now for long yardage (forget woods and long irons); 3. work on strategizing/playing the course better during rounds.
  7. My first year playing (when 55yrs. old) I purchased a Thomas Golf 1H (16L) on the internet, looking for a 1 iron. The plan was to use it to replace the driver, which I could not hit straight enough to save me at that time. The club looked great and was ok, but I was new to the game and I got as much distance from Cleveland Mashie 2H, and played with the Mashie 2H (18L) and 4H(23L) for several years thereafter. Didn't really give the Thomas club a chance. I use Callaway 5H and 4H now, not off the tee, but for long clubs off the fairway. I do tend to pull the hybrids and have to adjust for that. Hybrids are probably the best of my options for shots 170 yards and over. I experiment from time to time with woods and long irons, but the hybrids quickly find there way back to my bag.
  8. It's odd but I've had the same experience. You would think bright orange would be great both in the air and on the fairway/rough, but I lose them faster than any other color. Optic yellow seems to work best for me.
  9. Sorry to hear that you are frustrated and are contemplating quitting. Why are we in this? If it is about continuing to improve to the point we reach scratch golf or make the tour, then most of us will fail and plateau out long before we're there. If we don't keep at it regularly, we'll certainly get worse. Sometimes we get worse the more we do,. A lot of people burn out and quit when they reach a plateau, and refocus their time on other things. I've run into several of these. Those who keep at it achieving less than we might have hoped for adjust our expectations and learn to be comfortable with goals that are achievable for us. For me now it's consistent scores in the 90s. I aim to break 90 occasionally, and I probably won't get much better. That's fine. I enjoy the rounds, the banter and socializing in the foursomes that I play in, the relaxation I get from hitting my clubs well at the range, even the rounds I play by myself. It helps that I started golf when I was in my fifties and never had grand expectations to begin with. I had to quit for a few weeks this season due to temporary injury. The break did me good. I put golf in perspective--did other things and didn't miss it as much as I thought I would--and when I came back, I found it more enjoyable and played a bit better. Golf is an odd thing, very demanding, very complex, and very hard on our egos. YOu don't have to quit all at once, just take a prolonged break and focus on other things. Come back and test the waters again when the cobwebs clear. Could be you've made up your mind and are done, and want confirmation that its ok to give it up. Then, it's ok. Golf basically is about hitting a ball and rolling it into a hole. We shouldn't let it torture us.
  10. Driver and I've already purchased its replaced. Current Driver = Cobra AMP cell. I hit this the best of any I've owned, but it is getting old and has a dent in it. I purchased a Cobra F6 to replace it at the beginning of this season, but haven't worked it into the bag yet. The goal is next year. Hope to get a bit more distance with the newer one.
  11. I've tried them all during my first few years of playing golf regularly when I really struggled with Driver. I've used mini-driver, strong 3 wood, regular 3 wood, 1 hybrid, 2 hybrid. Nothing stuck, and it wasn't the loss of distance so much--my first few shots with the mini-driver were quite promising, but the same issues that plagued my driver would eventually work down to the replacement club. None of the replacements worked well off the turf either. A few years ago, I started hitting the driver much better after lots of youtube videos. I quit swinging out of my shoes, made sure my hands and arms were relaxed, slowed my backswing and accelerated through the ball. I now hit fairways and close rough most of the time with the driver, rarely in the trees now. My next club in the bag is a 5W or 3H for turf shots and par 3s, and I'm not particularly accurate or happy with either. Glad I stuck it out with the driver.
  12. thanks for the heads up. I would prefer the old gamers in yellow, but they are discontinued. I started using some of the D2 soft balls I bought earlier in the season a couple of weeks ago, since it's been very wet here and greens are soft and fairways are mushy to swampy with a whole lot of rain. I've been very happy with my results with these balls. They do check up a bit if I hit down on them properly and I'm not rolling them off the green. I'll see what happens when the ground firms up, if it ever does here. You can't beat the price for a new ball. I bought a couple of more boxes and will finish out the season with them.
  13. Long par 3s can wreck your scorecard. As far as laying up, if you can chip reasonably well, I also think it is the way to go. I'm better off short in front of the green with a decent lie for a low chip or short pitch than I am with a topped shot, or a shot in the trees, or a shot pin high 20 yards right or left of the green with a lob shot over a bunker. Lay up with a club you have confidence n gives you a chip and a par putt, a bogey if you miss the putt close. Swinging for the fences with a club I don't use much generally gives me a lot worse.
  14. Wish I had a good driver alternative, but when I'm duffing the driver I don't do much better with the other clubs in my bag that would be logical alternatives---woods or hybrids. Don't quite know why, could be psychological. Slow down, tell myself to relax my arms, slow backswing and initial downswing, then accelerate and finish swinging out usually works.
  15. sometimes I will stand behind someone putting--didn't know this rule until now. Also, I didn't know that the line extended beyond the hole. Great, now I know.
  16. I've hit 2 in my 7 years trying to golf, crow at a range and a Canadian goose on the fairway. Wasn't aiming. Felt bad about it. Hit worm burners with hybrid both times. The crow lied on its side, then spread its wings, then flew away as I was walking toward the clubhouse to report it. The goose wasn't phased, although the ball made a loud thud, and he flew off with his crew as I approached him. Got a nickname out of it--Goose thumper.
  17. back for me. I pulled a muscle Labor Day and it keep me out for 3 weeks. I can swing now without pain, playing less and enjoying it more.
  18. Once I was playing with a buddy and we got stuck behind a slow moving event, by the turn the event was finished but everything was backed up. 10th hole we joined the twosome behind us, since their foursome broke up for whatever reason. It took about 5 1/2-6 hour to finish. What made it especially miserable was the damned twosome we joined. Everybody was backed up and everybody was waitng, but these two constantly were bitching and moaning about the slow foursome in front of us. Most miserable round I've every had. Slow pace + incessant bitching about it from strangers = I wanna be a bowler.
  19. When I hear it, I mostly freeze and cover my head, but I may look up, which is idiotic. I holler when I think there is a chance that I might get close. I'm usually far short. Sometimes I'm late with the warning. Once a twosome was in front of me on the green, I went to my bag and by the time I looked at the hole they were gone. I thought they went to the next hole. I didn't notice that they were to the left of the green talking to a fellow in the maintenance cart and my ball went through them and I found it about 20 yards past, they may have kicked it up. The maintenance fellow said my ball was close and went through them. I apologized and explained. When we caught up to the twosome--two women--they wanted no part of my apology or explanation and I felt terrible because of it. I'm watching more closely now.
  20. Interesting post, which relates to an issue I've had. How accurate are GPS distance measures? The point to point from shot to landing point measure has to be calculated from the reference point on the green that the GPS uses. So if it's 400 from hitting point to green, and you hit 220 yards, but hit left or right of the point on the green and are 210 to the center of the green, won't your measure show as 190? Of course, the relevant number distance to green on 2nd shot is 190. The reason I've started questioning my GPS is that I once got a 160 something reading on a dogleg. I didn't hit my best shot, but it was longer than that. I have gotten a 230+ reading a few times (I used to think I hit my best shots about 240), and then I was pretty much center of the fairway on the shot. These were also quite exceptional shots for me, 200-220 readings are my typical ones, sometimes lower. I also don't want to think I'm hittng the distances the GPS says I am, and have quit looking. All of the above could be wrong, a rationalization from an old man resisting what he is, or is fastly becoming--older and weaker.
  21. I think there is a gap between 3W and 4I. 5W would fill it. I've got that in my bag today, but I go back and forth between hybrids and woods at this gap. I struggle with consistency with either.
  22. Up here (upstate New York) we are seasonal and stop for a few months to as many as 6 months a year. I don't like the long break, but the break in general does me good and I really enjoy the start of the season and my game early on isn't nearly as bad as I would expect. Breaks are good for me, helps to get perspective and when I return I enjoy it more. Good luck. I suspect we all experience the need to break from it from time to time.
  23. I typically use a stock S wedge (54 loft, 14 bounce) from my set when I need to get it out with distance, and a 58 loft "lob wedge" with 12 degree bounce when I just try to clear the lip. I have used PW on greenside bunkers. For me, the key with any of them is to swing behind the ball an inch or so and swing through hard trying not to worry about what will happen if I thin it (which will shoot it to the next tee box).
  24. Typically yes, but I'm p sure that a urethane cover makes more of a difference My own opinion is that the cheaper 3-piece balls will check up a bit better and hold the green better than 2 piece balls, but the cheaper 3-piece balls won't do this as well as the expensive ones and the ones with urethane covers. I've tried cheaper 2 piece balls, like the Top Flight D2, and the Maxfli version, and I seemed to be bouncing and rolling these off the greens more often. I was using Callaway Supersoft early this season (2 piece), and while these balls were very good for me for distance and keeping shots from slicing as much, they would bounce and roll off the greens a bit too much as well. Bridgestone e6 balls seem a bit better (and a bit pricier) and I really liked the old gamers. Thanks for the alternatives suggested above as well. i"ll try some of these when my current stockpile runs down.
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