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Adam C

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  1. You are probably low on the out the door price you could quickly end up with if you buy from them. Figure $125 for the fitting, that may or may not be credited back to the purchase price based on the fitting company. Driver head will be $450-$550. Shafts will probably be in the $300-$450 range as to what they recommend. Also they will tack on a $30 shaft PUREing charge and another $10 for the grip often.

    I have heard many people walk out with a $900 driver recommendation.

    My advise, go get fit, get the info for what seemed to be working well for you. Don't just look for one perfect shaft, look for shaft traits that seem to work with your swing. Most important element of a shaft is the weight, followed by balance point. After that shaft consistency, then bend profile. At the very bottom is torque.

    Find the right shaft weight and you are most of the way there. Then you can take those specs, along with the head type and related specs and go a few different ways. You can order the club new and find a stock or upgrade option that matches well against your fitting results. Or you can buy the head and shaft separately on eBay or a good golf forum.

    If you really feel the need to spend $900, to have a custom built driver then go ahead, in the end it's your money. Personally I don't think there is a golf club on the planet worth that. 

  2. I will go ahead and answer your question you are asking. The X line is different in 3 ways from the standard Rogue, all of which are designed purely to up the distance. First, the X line is physically longer by 1/4 inch over the Rogue. Figure the standard Rogue is also a bit long (talking static length here) to start with so the X could be considered 1/2 inch over standard. Second, the lofts are around 3 degrees stronger than the Rogue line (and the Rogue line is pretty strong to begin with). Third, the X line is 3 points lighter on the swing weight scale. Now as far as I can recall the shaft options are the same for both, so that means that the X line has a much lighter headweight.

    The first two differences probably won't make any difference as to which you like more, but the SW difference would be the one I would be most concerned with. With your current game as you described it, I would think the light weight shouldn't bother you. The other consideration is if the club does end up feeling light, you can always add some lead tape to the head to increase that feel. You can't however go the other way if it's too heavy in the case of the standard Rogues.

  3. 1 hour ago, Lewis55555 said:

    Thanks for the advice. I think I'll change the ferrule as well. It seams like a bad epoxy job to be honest. 

    Is it worth getting some golf shaft epoxy or just some strong 24 hour set resin epoxy

    I just watched one of you YouTube tutorials about ferrules and doesn't seam too hard. 

    I have everything apart from epoxy and ferrules.

    Any recommendations on epoxy. I'm from the UK so may be different brands here.

    3M brand is a good one for epoxy. The DP420 two part is used by many OEMs. When it comes down to it, most 2 part epoxies will work as long as they have a lap/shear strength of 2500-4000 psi.

  4. 21 minutes ago, Release said:


    It matters not whether it's a .355 or the ,370 advertised ferrule.  The tapered section of a .355 shaft is but about 5/8" down the very end of the tip of the shaft , all shafts measure at .370 just above the ferrule.  

    This is not true. You can not use a .355 ferrule on a .370 tip shaft. I will not fit. These are .370 irons, so you will need the matching size ferrule. You can go the other way and use a .370 ferrule on a .355 shaft, and I often do, but not the other way.

  5. You are going to need .370 tip ferrules, that is the inside diameter. As far as outside diameter, you need to get a caliper and measure the outside diameter of the hosel to see what you need. Ideally you would buy ferrules that have a slightly larger OD than the hosel so you could turn them down, however that can be intimidating to many new club builders. If you don't want to mess with it at all, you can get ferrules that are slightly smaller OD than the hosel and not have to do anything with them. Club builders will shake their heads at this but it works and still looks okay when you're all done.

    Shameless self promotion. If you look up Mobile Clubmaker on Youtube, I have a series of videos on club making including ones specifically on installing and turning down ferrules if you want to do it the professional way. Best of luck.

  6. 26 minutes ago, Bonvivant said:

    Offset is on my mind too. I am not a fan. Are there certain makes that have let's say mid thickness top lines but next to no offset. Great points in the other post. Just something im going to have to get used to

    I am playing a set of Mizuno MP-18 MMCs, and really like them. They have a thin cavity, thin top line, and minimal offset. The SC version would also work. New MP-20s would be similar.

    Also if you don't mind a bit thicker top, something like the Callaway Rogue Pros are smaller headed with very little offset. 

    Again every company makes a small headed cavity back at this point. 

    Might also want to check out some of the component options. Maltby has some heads that would fit the bill if you don't care about what name is stamped on your irons.

  7. Every brand makes a cavity version along with a blade version of their players clubs. These still won't be that forgiving but more so than a true muscle back blade. If you are looking to make them a bit more playable try matching these heads up with a lighter (sub 115g) shaft. But again, Mizuno, Srixon, Titleist, Callaway, TaylorMade, just to name a few brands.

  8. It's really just a gimmick. The reason why most wedges don't have grooves all over the face is because you don't make contact with the face in those areas. If you are, then you have bigger issues than a lack of spin and you should probably be looking at something more forgiving like Cleveland CBX. I know if you open the face and take a full swing you may miss out on the high toe more often, but I don't think I have ever made contact on those parts of the face. This is just TaylorMade and Callaway trying to steal a little more market share from Titleist Vokeys.

  9. I am just going to answer the question's you are asking, and not getting into the fitting discussion. The shaft difference in terms of length between mens and women's is 1 inch. That being said, manufacturers have made the "standard" driver so long that you would easily be able to use the women's length at 5'10" regardless of flex. I am 6ft and use a 44.5 driver (which in this case would be standard women's length). The senior flex shaft will be slightly stiffer, but if you can hit one, you can usually hit the other. Only caveat is if you always miss with a slice or have issues with launch height, a softer shaft can help.

    The stiffer shaft will be heavier in total weight by a few grams. The swing weight will also be heavier with the senior club.

    I would say figure out how hard you swing the club and if your miss is as described above, to determine the flex. However if you do go with the senior club, I would play it at 44.5, not at 45.5 length. A 45.5 driver rarely does you any favors.

  10. Just looked at the specs of the TS1, and it is exceptionally light. 175g head (compared to 197g average), 45g shaft, and 30g grip. So I was mistaken in that it is lighter than the stock options from other companies. You can get to those numbers with other OEMs but it may require an upgrade charge somewhere. That being said, that is super light and I don't know how the swing weight can't be in the mid C range. You definitely would want to hit a club like that before buying. It may work for you but you also might hate it.

  11. 40 minutes ago, Sandtrapp220 said:

    I've been told that the Titleist TS 1 would give  golfers with slower swing speeds better distance.

    I have  a 88 mph Swing speed. Does anyone think it would help, or is it an advertising gimmick.

    Compared to what? TS4 or other Titleist drivers, probably so. TM M6, Callaway Epic Flash, Cobra F9, etc, won't know until you compare but probably less difference. Every company has a driver meant to go high and far, and then a driver meant to go low with low spin for high speed players. If you are in the right category for your swing, the individual brand will probably make less difference. But like iacas said, need to hit them to see.

  12. There is no reason why you have to play the club at any given length. The lengths are in the end all arbitrary numbers decided on by OEMs and based on what an average player would need. However, a big caveat, to this, is that if you are going to play the clubs at these longer lengths, then you would have to make numerous other adjustments to the club in theory to make it play correctly and feel right for you. This would include reweighting the heads to lower the swing weight, changing the lie angles to fit based on your swing with the longer clubs, changing the lofts to achieve the correct gapping you are looking for, possibly changing the shafts to a different flex to achieve the feel you want, that may have been lost from the length and or head weight changes.

    But in theory, the club might just work right out of the gate and require no alterations.

    Heck the clubs I am using right now, have a 1/2 inch step down length from the 4-6 and then move to a 1/4 step down from the 7-P. I did however have to adjust the weight, lie, and lofts for the clubs to balance the set correctly.

    All this is to say, find what works for you.

  13. On 9/8/2019 at 7:34 PM, Buckeyebowman said:

    Good points, but don't discount lie angle too much! As I understand it , the dot color on Ping irons is all about the lie angle. I once read a story where John Daly was being fitted for a new set of clubs at the club company's headquarters. He had worked his way down to the short irons (8,9,PW, GW), and after hitting some balls with them asked the fitter to have them bent 1/2 degree flat! 

    Daly sat back to enjoy a diet Coke and a heater and when the fitter came back, he hit more balls. He was smiling big because the irons were perfect. He said to a reporter, "Most amateurs don't realize how much a little change in lie angle can help their game!"

    And isn't "direction" kind of what golf is all about?

    I wasn't trying to discount lie angle. It is very important. I was just basing my opinions off of the information at hand. OP did not mention anything about changes in direction, only in distance, which is why I would lean towards shaft weight as the determining factor more so than the lie angle simply based on the info at hand.

    The reason JD knew that the lies were off was because he could look up and see the ball not traveling through the correct launch window. Now he knew this because he is a professional golfer who has hit tens of thousands of balls and knows what his launch should look like. However the distance would not change in this example, only direction.


  14. Two options or a combination of the two.

    First option- you hit the heavier shaft better. It fits your swing and allows for better tempo and timing thus better contact. Also Pings are always light on the SW scale. C7 is really light and could easily lead to inconsistency.

    Second option- Lie angle could have some influence but most likely it is small at best and would be more directional than contact influencing. 

    Simple way to check some of this is get some impact stickers, foot spray, masking tape, etc, and see where you are making contact on the face of each. My guess is you will see a much more consistent pattern with the steel shaft ISI, and more all over the face with the G5.

  15. Just get the standard mens chipper, stock everything. Don't know that there really is much difference brand to brand. At 5'10 you are right in the wheel house of what is considered mens standard length. The shafts on all chippers I have ever seen are steel and uniflex so that won't be an issue either. Weight should not be a problem as you swing the club like a putter and never swing in farther back then 18 inches give or take.

    I would recommend the chipper be similar length to your putter. If it's close to that, then you are good.

  16. I have one of the original model CBXs, 58 bent to 59. It was a gift and when I received it, I was planning on getting rid of it, as I like smaller blade style wedges. However I took it out to the range and played around with it on the short game area and kind of fell in love with it. It is my go to "get out of the s--t" club around the greens. In a divot, hard pan, deep grass, I can just swing it and know that it will end up on the green with a chance at saving par. The worse the lie, the better it performs for me.

  17. 48 minutes ago, Mesa4234 said:

    I recently bought a set of Apex cf16 off callaway preowned. I bought them at the suggestion of my instructor and he told me to get them +1/2 inch. When I was playing this week and at the range today, the AW seemed really short so I measured the clubs and they seem to be either standard length or in some cases a half inch shorter than spec. I measured the club basically in the position it would be in at address from the floor to the end of the grip. Is that the correct way to measure?

    I have a lesson next week and my instructor is also a club fitter so I will ask him, but I was just wondering in the meantime. 


    Here, I go over how to properly measure a golf club. It's at the 3:50 mark.


  18. Going lighter in the shaft will not necessarily make the swing weight increase. In fact, in most cases it will drop the swing weight even more compared to the Vokeys. The amount varies by the balance point and weight of the shaft. How much heavier are the wedges? In general you will find a slope in SW progression whereby the wedges are the heaviest.

    You could try some lead tape if it's just a small change you are looking for, although many would argue you are more tricking the swing weight scale than actually changing the weight distribution. Other option would be to bore out some weight ports in the back of the Vokeys or down the hosel further. That's a big pain in the a-- though. Could also just look for some lighter head stock. Titleist will have some that they use for over length club builds.

    Unfortunately it's always easier to add weight then take it back.

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