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  1. That 7-iron swing was beautiful. Love the JRose rehearsal creating distance between your knees. That's proven to be an incredible feel for me - and is a relatively new development. I'll need to grab some video as I'm working on my swing this winter. In your rehearsal, as you're creating that distance your head moves down toward the ground, letting you fire up off the ground. Explosive. The feel obviously is working for you - as that 180 yards must mean something like 91-2 mph of swing speed. During my last lesson, my 7i swing speed moved from a pretty established 90 mph to a consistent 93. And I attribute it largely to working toward that move in your rehearsal. In your 'real' swing, I noted that your head stayed level through impact and your left knee didn't fire ahead of your right to create that distance. Impact, extension, and balance were still terrific. My question is this: do you do that rehearsal just to create the 'feel' of that move without the intent of fully executing it? Quick background: I'm currently a .4 (here in Wisconsin) and post about 60 rounds a year. Index typically ranges +.9 - 1.6 (early season scoring is a beast here in WI and I also typically post 8-10 rounds from Bandon in June where scoring isn't the goal...).
  2. Great topic and discussion. I have to admit, I didn't read all 5 pages. But I love the discourse. I'm absolutely in the camp that the arms are NOT passive in the golf swing. They actively participate from address through finish. I feel like some of the challenge here is that folks seem to contextualize the role of, say, the arms in how it feels to them when they are swinging well. It strikes me that this conversation is really about the role the arms actually play in the swing - but much of the conversation ends up being about the feel cues that players use to accomplish specific things. To be sure, effective instruction is about not only understanding the swing and the opportunities and limitations presented by the student. It's also about communicating to that student in a way the student understands. To describe the arms as along for the ride seems ineffective at best, and dangerous at worst. Look at Tiger's swing today and you see that he is wider on the way back than he was previously. Look at his forearms - you can clearly see the muscles in his left arm. Some might suggest he's an anomaly and 'efforts' more than most. So look at Zach Johnson then. His efficient move delivers the club beautifully at impact. Again, you can clearly see the muscles in both forearms - suggesting a measure of 'tension' through the swing. For me (note these are my feel cues), I do try to avoid a sense of 'tension' in my arms - primarily because tension in my arms often comes packaged with tension in my wrists - which is no bueno. I was fortunate to have taken a 1/2 day lesson with Jim Flick. I'll always remember his 'firm grip, loose wrist' demonstration. So, again for me, I try to avoid a sense of creating tension in my arms. That said, I like to think about extension of my arms. On my best shots, I feel fully extended through impact and then through position 3 in the ZJ image. With my teaching pro, we certainly work ground up, but we've arrived at a place where I need to count on my lower body doing what it needs (creating space between the knees from the transition down, then posting up and firing onto lead leg with belt buckle rotating toward the target), and my upper body needs to 'cover' the ball. That means I can swing my arms as fast as I can. For me, that also means I need to maintain my spine angle and rotate my shoulders on a flatter plane than I previously did.
  3. I'm a 48 year old male and currently carry a .4 index. I started playing at ~18 and caught the bug in a big way. I've long been a student of the swing, but I always relied on my natural athleticism (and youth) to allow me to get my body to perform. I typically run +1 to 1 here in Wisconsin at my home course, and I've re-built my swing twice before this year. But I'm definitely getting older, and I had never lifted weights or committed to a work-out regimen in my life. So, in May, I committed to getting into the best shape of my life by 50. For the past 7 months I've been going to a personal trainer for 1x1 sessions 2-3 times a week, and I have coupled that with re-building my swing. Even in this short period, my results have been extraordinary. I'm posting because I'm interested in how other folks have approached golf-directed fitness - particularly tied back to their age and golf instruction. The pros all do it. But I don't really know any other golfers who are specifically dedicating their fitness to their golf... Here's what I've been doing (in a nutshell): warm-up is fairly static in structure - ~12 minutes of dynamic stretching and range of motion work. We concentrate a LOT on upper thoracic mobility as the differential between shoulder and hip turns is a power driver. We also work extensively on pelvic mobility with emphasis on the flexors, as well as hamstrings and basic glute activation. Several of these are one-legged in character. My favorite is the spiderman stretch with an overhead reach to really open the upper back. From there, we work on lots of lower body big muscle groups. Squats, lunges, dead lifts - and all the variations of those. We also work on a full spread of upper body - presses, rows, pull-ups... Everything is superset against the opposite motion or a complementary motion. So incline bench barbell presses are set against rows of some type. Big lower body lifts are set against upper back mobility. EVERYTHING is done with an eye on form and a neutral spine drives the process. We also do a LOT of core work and develop explosiveness through the range of motion. A number of med ball exercises, broad jumps, box jumps, TRX.. Two weeks ago, I invited my teaching pro to join me at a workout so my trainer and golf pro could directly engage on what we're working on. It was terrific. In addition, I've added some supplements. Creatine to help muscular development. A good one-a-day vitamin as well as additional D3, Zinc/Magnesium, Selenium and Omega 3. Bottom line: while not yet concentrating on cutting fat, I'm down a belt size to 33 and up 12 pounds to 192. I'm using my glutes like I never have before and I finally understand what it means that the golf swing is built from the ground up. My 7-iron swing speed is up to 93 mph from 90 mph. And, while my speed is up, the golf swing feels easier and more natural than it ever has. I find all of this remarkable. While I am a wonkish golf guy and love to study the swing, I'm NOT a data hound. I'm not chasing metrics. So while my swing speed is up, what has been most fascinating to me is that by getting my body more tuned for the swing, the swing is simply easier. I'd love to hear what others are doing. I'd also love to understand how many folks would consider pairing instruction and fitness if given the option.
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