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  1. 2 hours ago, ghalfaire said:

    I don't have a favorite club for short game, but I do prefer to chip and let the ball run as opposed to throwing the ball up in air (pitch) and trying to drop it softly.  So I am probably using and 7-9 irons more than the wedges for short game.  But I try to let the situation dictate what I do and what club i used to do it with.

    This is pretty much my approach. I find I'll chip with anything from LW to 7 iron. I also like to get the ball rolling as much as possible instead of flying and trying to stop it. 

  2. Okay, I'm not sure what qualifies as Hall of Fame material. 

    Normally I just wear a hat that keeps the sun of my scalp and is comfortable. I actually like the "trucker hat" style the best. Two reasons... 1 - I like the venting to keep my big brain from overheating. 2 - They go great with cargo shorts..... 👍🤪👍

    Here's the hat I picked up at the TST Whispering Woods, Chautauqua, NY/Erie, PA gathering. See this thread for information: 

    Chautauqua, NY/Erie, PA Gathering - August 1-2, 2020 - Member Outings & Meetups - The Sand Trap .com

    Anyhoo, it was a great time. I really enjoyed it. I played pretty much the worst of anyone there. And I got this hat. I like it a lot. 


  3. @MattM

    I feel I can add a lot to this discussion. For one, I am perpetually working through swing changes. Some of them are intentional some of them are not. My natural golf ability is super low. Like you, I started playing golf in my mid 20's. I have been a single digit handicapper. I have played to a 36. One time I played a tournament in which I shot a 78 and a 112 on consecutive days.... same course. 

    So, I feel I have something to offer here. I have what I think are 3 really good pieces of advice for you. First things first. You have to decide that it doesn't bother you. Never... I mean NEVER say that somebody's talk, noise, farts, what ever bothered you. If you start pretending you have a great mental game and nothing bothers you, soon enough you will. The old saying goes whether you think something is going to bother you, or whether you think it won't. Either way; You're right. 

    Okay, here are my 3 pieces of advice: 

    1 - First, Allow yourself to make some bad shots. It looks like you are a 12 handicap. That means you are going to hit some bad shots each round. I will also hit some bad shots. I've already hit some really really really terrible shots in my life and I will hit more of them. Just allow yourself to do so. It you hit a horrible chip shot. Assume it's one of the bad shots you will hit. It's not because they guy said something to you. That's just coincidence. It was just a bad shot. I played fairly recently with a bunch of guys from this forum at Whispering Woods. I was/am working through a lot of swing changes. Every single time @iacas was watching me tee off I hit a horrible tee shot. Was it because @iacas was watching? Hell no. It was because I hit about 16 of 18 tee shots horribly. I needed more work on my swing. 

    2 - Talk through what you're going to do. This is very under-rated advice. One day I'll write a book on it and make dozens of dollars. After the guy said "I'm glad that isn't my shot..." or what ever. Talk through your plan OUT LOUD. It has to be out loud. Say "Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to use my 60 degree wedge hit that dimple just left of the logo with a 5% downward angle of attack. The ball is going to spin hard up the club face, climb in the air land next to that leaf right there on the collar bounce once, bite and roll up next to the flag. ... ideally in the hole. Why out loud? Two reasons, one most people can't think about anything else while they are talking about something. So, it puts all the negatives out of your mind. Second, that guy isn't likely to interrupt you during a conversation... even if it's with yourself. It also puts you in the moment. Listen, I'm not a great golfer. ... sometimes I'm not even good. But, I can tell you; This works. If it doesn't see advice number 1 above. 

    3 - Practice talking during your own backswing. Okay this one's a little bit out there. I only know one other guy who does this, but I promise you it works. You can drive a car while talking, right? You can walk, throw a football, kick a soccer ball, maybe even do a cartwheel, all while talking, right? Practice talking while hitting golf balls. The easiest thing to do is describe out loud what you want the shot to look like. Talk about it in every detail. It's kind of an extension of advice 2, above. Just now instead of in the pre-shot, do it DURING the shot. A buddy of mine and I have played entire rounds where we talk to each other while hitting our shots. Do we score better? NO. But we don't score any worse. Do we hit all good shots? NO, we hit about the same number of good shots as we usually do. However, practicing this way only makes it easier to block out the BS around you. 

    Anyway take my advice for what its worth. There are a lot of better golfers on this forum who can also advise you. Some of them already have. Here's one thing I can tell you for certain. When I personally hit a bad shot it has nothing AND I MEAN NOTHING to do with what anyone said to me before I walked up and hit it. That bad shot was because I have a bad swing, no other reason. 

  4. 7 minutes ago, iacas said:

    Bit lame they aren't willing to buy them to test them out. And that's why, say, the SkyTrak review is years late.


    Mevo has 8 data parameters. Mevo+ has 16.

    I'd get a Mevo+ before I'd get a SkyTrak. By far.

    The SkyTrak, let's not forget, requires good light, but not too much light - you can't use it in sunlight sometimes.

    I wonder about the Mevo+ when hitting into a net. 
    If I got either, I'd mostly be using it indoors with my net. I'm wondering if the 2 photos taken from the side deal of SkyTrak, would be better than the doppler tracking from behind of Mevo+? Due to space constraints, my net is only a couple of feet in front of my swing. Would that give enough time for Mevo+ to track my ball?

  5. There is a very nice Indoor Golf Facility not too far from where I live. My game NEEDS a lot of work right now. That's especially true for my full swing. I have the funds to get a limited membership allowing me Trackman or GCQuad time. One would think that's a no brainer. Work on your game all winter at the indoor golf place, right?

    What do you all think? 
    Is that a safe choice during this COVID thing? 
    The county in which my wife works just went to purple. That's the highest rating our state has. It's the first county in the state to do so. My wife works remote and has been doing so since March. But it's got me thinking; Am I being responsible by going and working on my golf game INDOORS an hour or two per week just to get time on the Trackman?

    Or is that not a smart choice?

    I'm curious to hear others opinions. 

  6. 18 minutes ago, billchao said:

    I may wear a white belt, but at least I don’t play a shaft that doesn’t fit my swing just because it’s blue.

    Hey in all fairness. Right now there really isn't a shaft made that would actually "fit" my swing. 

    @boogielicious I laughed out loud when a read the part about Chicago Public Schools. Thanks, brother totally made my day.

    I thought of a few more things the white belt could say about you.

    1 - I'm a female pop star, or female pop star wannabe. 

    2 - I'm in the navy.

    3 - I sell ice cream for a living.

  7. 1 hour ago, NM Golf said:

    Like I've said before, have you ever been outdriven by 50 yards by someone wearing a white belt? We should play then. I look fantastic in my white belts. 

    Were you treated unfairly by a teacher wearing a white belt?

    Unfortunately, I've seen many an asshat get banned from here over the years. Some people just don't know how to play well with others.

    The way my game has been this year, you'd probably outdrive me by 150 yards. 

    If you are young and slender, you can probably get away with a white belt. If you are 50 years old with a dad bod.... well... probably not. 

  8. 11 hours ago, Daveje97 said:

    I’ve lurked around this forum for awhile but decided to take the plunge today. I’m a 45 yr old guy who lives on the north side of the city and plays in the north suburbs. I played in college and have been bouncing around between +1 and 3 for most of my adult life but, to be honest, it was pretty phony. I barely played much, never practiced but all the years of playing and competing meant I was always able to scrounge up a handful of good rounds each summer to keep the number low.  This summer, I really caught the bug and had a run for about six weeks where I felt like I was in college again. I have not felt this enthused about the and had this much desire to improve since about 1995. I love the idea of some of these accountability threads to keep me on track with my improvement plans and goals for the winter. Now I just have to hope the city doesn’t completely shut down so I don’t lose my hitting bay and Trackman.  I guess if (when) that happens, I’ll find out how much cold I’m willing to tolerate in the backyard to get better at this dumb game.


    Welcome, Dave.

    I'm about a half decade your senior. And you're considerably better at this game than I. 

    I grew up in the North Suburbs of Chicago. I didn't start playing until after getting my first job out of college. My first round was at St Andrews in West Chicago, IL.

    Having started my golfing life in Chicagoland and the North Suburbs, I may have fixed a few ball marks on the same greens as you. I left Chicagoland in 1999, so I'm going from memory here. But some of the courses I used to play a fair amount back in the day include. Chapel Hill in McHenry, IL. Boone Creek, in Bull Valley, IL. and then there was Crystal Woods and Craig Woods in Woodstock, IL. ... those two may have been combined into the same course now. Not sure. 

    There was also one... maybe on HWY 47... I remember it was built on top of an old garbage dump... Something Mountain, maybe???? 

    Anyway, welcome to the forum. Enjoy it.

  9. 3 hours ago, golfindude1 said:

    This is unfair to the college student compared to the adult because their only opportunities for obtaining money to play golf are either from part-time jobs (excluding golf courses for this instance), internships, or from their parents whereas the opportunities that the 40-year old gets pay significantly way more money than the college student. The fact that the student has to pay as much as the 40-year old is absurd.

    7 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

    There are many many things in the world that are "unfair" in just this way.  If you don't have enough money, you can't have dinner at the French Laundry, you can't purchase a penthouse in Manhattan, you can't drive a Bentley.  Every one of these is available to the general public, all you have to do is pony up the cash.  


    One more thing.

    Is it also "unfair" that 40-year-olds have to pay a mortgage payment, save money for their kids to go to college and/or their own retirement?

    Is it "unfair" that a 40-year-old will have to provide food, clothing, housing, vehicles, insurance, utilities, etc... for their families?

    Is it "unfair" that if a college student hits a bump in the financial road he/she can move back in with his/her folks, but a 40-year-old needs to maintain a financial cushion and/or savings to keep his/her family off the streets? 

    Is it "unfair" that many 40-year-olds make sacrifices (both financial and other sacrifices) far greater than giving up golf to provide for their families? 

    Is it "unfair" that many 40-year-olds are really hurting financially right now thanks to a world wide pandemic. Is it "unfair" that they lose sleep every night worrying about how they are going to provide for their families? 

    Okay, I realize that I'm a little off the rails here. I'm just suggesting that you consider things deeply before you throw around words like "unfair". I would also argue that the 40-year-old and the college student each have the same "opportunities" to make money. They've just chosen to "invest" their time, talent, and treasures in different ways. (But that's probably a deeper discussion for another day.)

    I really like @DaveP043's comment. 

  10. 2 hours ago, golfindude1 said:

    The data shows a positive correlation between participation in sport percentage and household income. In other words, those a significant percentage of those who play these sports come from high-income households

    Part of the flaw in your argument is the word "household". I know lots of college kids and even more high school kids who play golf. A few of them play almost daily. As a rule their folks pay for their golf. My neighbor, a gentleman with whom I play golf most often, has 4 kids. Their ages range from 13 to 24. They all play golf. They all play often. My neighbor and his wife, of course, pay for it. 

    I know that doesn't help you. I'm probably telling you something you already know. That people who have more money have access to more stuff, including golf. So, as my folks used to say to me all the time "Work hard in school. Get a good job, and you'll have more opportunities." 

    In the meantime you could:
    1 - Look for a cheap muni. The town my college was located in had one. Many college towns do; They are often 9 holes. It may not be Pinehurst, but it's golf. 

    2 - Consider getting a part time job at a golf course. Sometimes those come with either deep discounts or free golf.

    3 - Get a golf scholarship --- Okay, easier said than done. 

    4 - Look for a course that DOES have a special rate certain times of the day. There's one out here that has really reasonable rates for times when most people aren't interested in playing. As a college student, you may have a more flexible schedule than most golfers. 

    5 - Or lastly, you could do what I did... Not start playing golf until I got my first job out of college. 

    Good luck, hang in there. 

  11. 3 hours ago, Missouri Swede said:

    Do you walk or ride?

    I got maybe a season out of each pair (walking, alternating between two pairs).  Fortunately, they changed their styles a little a couple of years ago, so they didn't fit my feet as well anymore.  I've still got two pair left, but I only use them if I'm going to ride a cart or walk my 9-hole par executive course.  (Fortunately, because I went to a cheaper Footjoy.)

    I walk. I also like to alternate between 2 pairs. 

    I'm kind of surprised yours didn't do better. Were they the cage variety? Those things seem like they are bullet proof. 

  12. 21 minutes ago, tehuti said:

    My most comfortable shoes are both spikeless - Ecco and Skechers. But I haven't had them long so I don't know how long they will last. I also have a pair of spiked New Balance that are surprisingly comfortable and seem to be pretty durable.

    My Ecco shoes have lasted a really long time. I think the cage variety is the tops when it comes to spiked golf shoes. 

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