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Herkimer

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  1. Some golf history  The 1933 U.S. Open was the 37th U.S. Open, held June 8–10 at North Shore Country Club in Glenview, Illinois, a suburb northwest of Chicago. Amateur Johnny Goodman outlasted Ralph Guldahl by a single stroke to win his only major championship.

    But Johnny Goodman was a golfer.  

    But I have to agree that's it's next to impossible that a sports figure from another sport could win a regular PGA Tour event. 


  2. That, my friends, is cruel and inhumane punishment.  The guy he gave the finger to most likely deserved a punch in the mouth.  The aggrieved party here is getting the punishment.  It should be the other way around.  I really hope he finds another tour on which to play.

    Wouldn't it be something if a friend of his was asking him, "What time do you want to meet for lunch," and the golfer was simply saying "1:00?"


  3. 26 minutes ago, benharris said:

    I love seeing the pros dismantle a golf course that I know I'd never have a chance on.

    Serious question here, what is with this obsession over seeing the pros struggle to break par? really? I mean if I wanted to watch golfers stink it up I'd just go out and watch some of my members play. The biggest reason I have for watching pro golf is seeing them play a game I can't play. I can shoot 71, 72, and 73's but I sure as shit ain't gonna go out and shoot 63's and 64's.

    What gives y'all?

    I like seeing a lot of birdies, too.  Just recently, on the PGA Tour, a player (whose name I forgot) got 9 birdies in a row.  Can you imagine?  For me that's more exciting than watching players struggle to make par.  By the way, that player only tied the record, which had been set my Mark Calcavecchia many years ago.


  4. 2 hours ago, rehmwa said:

    Automatically excluding himself in spite of a fair review, would be just as biased as automatically including himself in spite of a fair review.

    A lack of bias does NOT equal self sacrifice.  that's a pretty common fallacy.  and giving priority to appearances over fact and reality is just plain bad logic and bad leadership.

    I would reconsider your definition of objectivity.  It absolutely fair and objective as long as he assesses himself with the same criteria as the rest.  I think you mean that you personally have a bias that others in that situation are not capable of objectively comparing themselves to others? (your followup post are pretty clear on that).

    It's his duty to consider every American top player.  He's on that list.

    No matter how fair a judge might be, in certain instances, he would have to recuse himself.  If any Captain did not automatically qualify to be a player in any Cup, for the sake of total impartiality, he shouldn't be his own judge.  


  5. Tiger was cut at the PGA Championship and cut at The Open.  He withdrew from the Northern Trust and was 37th at the BMW.  He also didn't qualify for Atlanta.  He played great for 4 days 6 months ago.  He's had multiple operations and has had back issues since April.  Captains are really busy and I'll bet they don't get much rest.  I want my players to be rested, especially if they have back issues and are in their forties.  

    If he weren't the captain, I might reevaluate.


  6. 5 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

    Well Tiger does have a good PC record, better than his RC. I don’t put near the interest in the PC as I do the RC. I didn’t care for Tiger playing in the last RC. 

    For a man of his extraordinary gifts, his RC record is really bad.  But even though his PC record is much better, to me it really doesn't mean that much at this stage of his game.  In these matches, anybody can win and anybody can lose.  Tiger certainly has proven that.  But he's Captain and he should concentrate on that.  Every Captain has told us how much work goes into it and how much time is necessary for them to do the duties that they are tasked.  No one wants to admit that they're older and can't do what they once could do.  Of course Tiger thinks he's better than everyone else even now and should be playing. I hope that he doesn't even give himself a chance to embarrass himself by playing in this Cup.  

    10 minutes ago, HJJ003 said:

    Agreed. Least favorite of international competitions. Though I’m still a sucker and will watch it. 

    You're not a sucker. You're a golf lover.  This is going to be a great cup and the matches are going to be very exciting. They always are.  

    What I'm going to say now will seem contradictory to what I said above. But if Tiger is more interested in excitement, rather than winning the cup, then he should play.  Who wouldn't want to see if he still has it?  [Not me.]


  7. 1 hour ago, Vinsk said:

    So what? You have an opinion as to who might be better choices to play than Tiger. Sounds like a decent discussion. No reason to duck it. Hell for alternate shot I’d like to have Cameron Champ in there. 

    It just so happens that Champ is one of my 4 picks, especially after today.  I'd pick Varner, Snedeker and Howell over Tiger.  


  8. 4 hours ago, iacas said:

    He’s still one of the top players. What four guys that didn’t qualify would you pick above him?

    Plus it’s an exhibition.

    Do you really think that golfers all over the world who are watching consider it just an exhibition?  Do you think that any Captain wants his players to consider it just an exhibition?  Remember the Ryder Cup's "War on the Shore?"  They didn't call it the "Exhibition on the Shore."  These Cups are serious matches that are held every two years and I want the United States to win.  

    There are definitely four other guys who I would pick over Tiger. 

    I also happen to think it's unfair for any Captain to pick himself.  It's hardly fair and objective.

     


  9. It's a narcissistic move.  He played great for 4 days in April, but what has he done lately?  Exhibition or not, I want the United States to win.  I don't want a guy who's busy being captain having to also worry about playing well and getting points for the United States.  And why should he risk being a goat and not the G.O.A.T.?  It's time to give others a chance.


  10. 40 minutes ago, DennisMiller said:

    What I felt when I went to Plantation Preserve was as if I was being treated like a menber of some exclusive country club. The place has that look and the staff treats you like something special.

    Down here in SW Dade, (West Kendall), Calusa CC closed a few years ago. It's owned by a member of the Bacardi family, who is trying to build a retirement community on it.

    Keys Gate CC closed a number of years ago. I have no idea what plans are for that site.

    And now the local politics are saying they want to close Melreese GC to build a soccer stadium on that site.

    I also know the Miccusukkee Tribe is unhappy about having bought Kendale Lake CC some years ago. They are trying to sell it because they claim they can't make money there.

    Killian Greens has a new owner who has worked hard to improve the dog track conditions that were there while I worked there part time. The covenant with homeowners on the course is apparently supposed to last about 30 more years. I originally heard 11 years. It's the only privately owned course around here that I know is actually being worked on to make it nicer for the clientele.

    I have only played there once and I don't remember much about the course. The reason for that might be because an error with the sprinkler timers cause some to come on just as we were putting on something like 15. I recall having to play a few more holes to finish.

    You're right about Plantation Preserve.  It's the only course that I like to play more than once when I'm down there.  I'll be playing there again in a few weeks.  Can't wait.

    I was trying to think of Melreese.  I had heard back in May that it was going to close and I thought, "Oh, no, not another one."   When a store closes, another store takes it place.  But when a golf course closes, it's gone forever.  Just horrible for golf lovers. 


  11. On 8/31/2019 at 5:46 PM, DennisMiller said:

    I'd be thrilled to pay what all you guys mentioned.

    Miami is expensive for golf. I play a lot at what many would call a dog track. New ownership put a lot of money into Killian Greens to improve it, but it's about the cheapest place in town at $28 for 9 holes with a cart and $39 for 18. Weekends are about 20% more.

    Most city or county owned courses run $50-$100 for 9 or 18 holes. Some, like Key Biscayne, still try to live on their reputation as a one time senior tour course. It's the one place I'd tell you is interesting and beautiful enough to be worth over $100.

    Other places like Inverrary, Plantation Preserve, (my personal favorite) and Jacaranda aren't expensive at all compared to paying for the semi private or resort courses. Inverrary and Jacarando each have 36 holes and I feel it's worth the 40 minute drive from my house in South Miami to their locations nearer Ft Lauderdale.

    Doral thinks it's Pebble Beach... The Red and Gold courses cost $250 per round. The Silver course is only $195. I personally never liked the Blue course. It's boring, has no personality and it only claim to be a professional tournament site is, it's long enough. The only memorable hole is the 18th, which I happened to birdie the first time I played it. (My claim to fame)

    At $450 for 18 holes, the Blue course is only worth bragging rights that you played it.

    What's depressing is, somehow golf courses are being built up in the Palm Beach County area, but they are closing in the Miami-Dade area. Two closes near my house closed in the past 5 years and another one is apparently being closed due to politics. They want to build a stadium on the property.

    Plantation Preserve is my favorite course in that area as well.  I tell everyone about it.  Absolutely superb fairways and greens....like a country club.  Interesting and varied holes, too.  Inverrary and Jacaranda don't come close to Plantation Preserve.  PGA Qualifying was held there and some of the pros said they couldn't believe that it was a public course.

    I don't know if you know that lots of courses have closed, though, in Palm Beach County.  This will, of course, drive prices up.  But if it takes prices to go up in order to prevent courses from closing, then I'm all for it.

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