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DeeBee30

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  1. So I've been gaming a set of forged Mizuno MP-52s for the last 10 seasons and had been wondering how much the lof/lie angles may have changed through the years. So...I finally got them checked before my Club Champion fitting this week. I was torn on whether I expected them to have deviated much from the factory specs. On one hand, I average between 40-50 rounds a year and consistently hit over 5,000 range balls during the season (always off grass), and that's not including pre-round warmup balls. During our Chicago winters, I'll hit indoors maybe once a week, so factor in another 1,000 shots off mats. Figure a good 20% of all those shots are with woods/hybrid, and another 20% with wedges, and that still leaves over 3,500/year shots with 4-PW. On the other hand, I have a pretty shallow AoA, so my clubs don't suffer a tremendous amount of impact against the ground or mats. The results: 2 clubs were off by 1 full degree on lie angle (both flatter), and the rest were within 0.5*. For loft angles, 1 club was 1* stronger, 3 were 0.5* stronger, and the rest were spot on to factory specs. In fairness, I didn't have them checked when I first bought them, so I understand that manufacturing tolerances could have caused a little deviation from published specs. That said, I was a bit surprised that the loft & lie specs have held up so well after 35,000+ shots. I guess I can't blame any of my squirrely shots on club spec changes. What kinds of results have players here gotten when getting specs checked? I know there are guys on here who play way more than I do, so everyone's mileage will vary.
  2. Well, I caught a wicked stomach bug yesterday afternoon that had me laid out into the night, and I wasn't sure I'd have the energy to manage enough good swings for the first session of my full bag fitting today at the Willowbrook, IL CC, but I was able to push through it and get the irons done. I worked with Roger Paiz and told him that I'd have lots of questions because I want to understand the process, not just go through it. He was really accommodating and forthcoming with responses to my questions about why he was pulling certain shafts and heads, as well as what his expected outcomes were with each one. Unfortunately, we only covered irons in the 2-hour+ session and didn't get to wedges/putter because of all the (needed) discussion. We'll finish the bag in early Feb. Today, I hit 6 different shafts and 6 different heads. For shafts, the KBS Tour V stiff clearly provided the best results and felt the best. As for heads, it was a near tie between the Mizuno MP-18 SC and the Titleist AP2. The new Callaway Apex Pros provided some pretty good numbers too, but the spin was a bit low and they were a little clicky for my taste. I currently game Mizzy MP-52s with DG S300s, and well-hit shots are just buttery smooth to the ear and hands. So, the MP-18s eeked out the APs in terms of feel - I guess I really am a Mizuno guy now. The KBS/MP-18 combo yielded an increase in carry distance of about 1 club (identical 31* loft as my MP-52) and a much tighter shot dispersion (which is my main focus). This was my first time hitting on Trackman (my main indoor sessions have been on a GC2 w/out HMT), and I have to say the swing path and club head data was very enlightening. Where I *felt* like I was coming a little over the top, Trackman showed it no more than -.4* out-to-in. It'll be interesting to recalibrate that swing feeling with some empirical data. Overall, the CC fitting has been a great experience so far. I'm really looking forward to going through the top of the bag next time. Once anecdote about Trackman: I had to ask the fitter to change the altitude setting from their standard sea level to 800', which is about where we are in Chicago. I've posted elsewhere here that I learned on GC2 that it really makes a difference (about 10%), and I wanted results that were closer to real-world during the fitting. Oddly, the fitter said I was the first guy to ask about this and request any kind of change. I guess they prefer to standardize to sea level in all their locations except Denver, and customers don't question it. Doesn't make sense to me, but it was an easy enough change.
  3. Yep - hit the range with 'em to figure out what shots they're giving you, then go have fun!
  4. Sidehatch, rentals for 1 or 2 rounds is definitely the way to go. I played Wailea and Kapalua late last year and rented from Jimmy’s Golf Club Rentals. Half the price of the on-course rentals, and he has some nice sets if you can book them in advance. I got a Titleist set: 716 AP2s, 917 D3 driver , 818 Hybrid and 917F3 3W. He also delivers and picks up from the course as long as you give a day or so lead time. Best deal on the island, and I didn’t have to drag my clubs through the airport or worry about the expense or potential damage from shipping them.
  5. I’ve got a local indoor golf place with several bays that use Foresight GC2s.The owner (an instructor) told me he sets the altitude/elevation at 1200’ above sea level because it provides results comparable to what we’d normally have mid-summer in Chicago (which sits at about 600’ above sea level).I didn’t think much of it and proceeded to hit there a couple of times and the distances indicated were pretty spot on with my typical yardages. I was feeling good about the accuracy of the GC2 until my last session where I was getting about 10% less distance on every club. I asked the (different) guy who set me up if there was something wrong with that unit, and he said no. The owner overheard us and asked the guy if he changed the elevation setting. Upon checking, the elevation was at the default sea level setting. After it was changed to 1200’, I was back to normal distances. Does it seem right that a launch monitor would need to be set at 1200’ to return the same results that are had in the real world at 600’? Also, it’s been a long time since I’ve played in Florida, but is it accurate to estimate a 10% difference in distance from sea level to 600’ above?I found this on the Titleist website, and it seems to indicate the difference shouldn’t be that much:You can calculate the distance gain you will experience (compared to sea level) by multiplying the elevation (in feet) by .00116. For example, if you're playing in Reno, at 1 mile elevation (5,280 ft.) the increase is about 6% (5,280 x .00116 = 6.1248). If you normally drive the ball 250 yards at sea level, you will likely drive it 265 yards in Reno.Any knowledgeable insight from anyone?
  6. Curious: what’s the per-round average cost at your course, assuming there’s a guest rate. It would be interesting to understand the ratio between membership fees (assuming $500 based on your comment) and typical round cost.
  7. Working on club distances at most ranges is a losing proposition. Range balls don’t provide the same distances as game balls because (1) many ranges use limited flight balls, meaning they don’t travel the same as normal balls or (2) even non-limited range balls don’t fly the same distance as normal balls because of their construction. Use the range to work on your swing mechanics and to get an idea of your general shot directions and shapes. If you really want to start dialing in distances, I’d suggest a playing courses in off-hours so you can hit multiple shots when it’s not crowded.
  8. There are at least two courses in the Southwest/West Chicago area that have two practice holes. They’re set apart from the course and are for practice/warmup only, not play-through as part of a full round. They each have guidelines saying to play one ball, but it’s commonly accepted to play a few shots as long as you’re not holding up anyone. I play each each multiple times a year, along with hitting the ranges and short game areas. They get surprisingly little play, though I go exclusively during the week. I love them.
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