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  1. I agree. Totally your choice. However, as an adult, it IS your responsibility to ensure you don’t say enough to crush his optimism and make a joke out of him.
  2. I’ve read the entire thread. The tone was fun initially. Then when the advice didn’t seem to be properly acknowledged, and it became clear to most posters that this kid was a poor listener, irrational, delusional, etc., the messages became extremely negative. Bottom line- whatever “advice” most tried to give didn’t reach him, didn’t work. You can blame him for all of his well-noted flaws. OR, as adults, we can try harder to find ways to reach him at his level. It’s easy to join the chorus of grown adults telling a kid he’s an idiot 50 different ways, bashing this kid over all of his flaws with ‘drop-the-mic GIFS.’ Even if all the negativity was 100% called for based on his attitude, you can’t just determine he’s an idiot, that you tried to help, and that he didn’t listen. I’m saying try harder. Successful people always find a way.
  3. Agree. Played it a few times in the 2003 US Amateur. Fairways were rock hard and undulating. Greens were as fast as they could be without the ball rolling when re-marked. Primary rough was thick 8-10”. Apparently the USGA started the idea of hosting the US Open on the same course the following year and using the amateurs as guinnea pigs to see how hard they could set it up without having to embarrass the pros during the open. I think the only player to break par during stroke play was JB Holmes. Similar story the following year at Winged Foot in the US Am. I played the West course during a downpour for almost the entire round. It was nearly impossible, but the afternoon wave faired much better with no rain and receptive greens. Hard to tell how much of the course’s difficulty was due to rain. I think Oakmont is harder in same weather comparison.
  4. What did you gain from him not subscribing? Congrats. Perhaps some kind words may have helped him hang around longer, make some incremental improvements, and potentially see the benefits of your evolvr program. Instead you essentially told a stubborn, hard-headed kid looking for a plan/purpose in life what an idiot he was. I hope you feel good about yourself. Way to take advantage of an opportunity to help the kid develop some life skills. I actually enjoyed reading this forum, despite how ridiculous his professional golf aspirations seem to be.
  5. All laws passed by State Legislatures were drafted by or with assistance from attorneys. The Legislators themselves may not be attorneys, but to have the language codified into statute, it’s 100% a legal document written or overseen and then potentially amended by a lawyer. Just because a judge may consider a new law passed by a legislature to be overly ambiguous does not mean it wasn’t written by a lawyer. Exactly. Well said!
  6. Diece: Use some of these last few threads as motivation. Don’t give up. When I told you that you’d be good at sales with your persistence and extremely positive outlook, I meant it. Those are important skills in sales, and in golf. So what if someone doesn’t want to buy your product or doesn’t think you’re good enough to play golf at a pro level. Prove them wrong. Believe in yourself, and find a mentor who believes in you too. You’ve got time if you work at it. Don’t try to do this all on your own. If you work hard, and have a good attitude, plenty of people around you will want to help you along. Failing a few times is good for you. Just keep learning. James Hahn won the Wells Fargo @ Quail Hollow and the Northern Trust @ Riviera. Before getting status on the PGA Tour, he was working in the shoe dept. at his local Nordstrom. Padraig Harrington was an accountant before turning pro. Anyone who tells you there’s an EXACT path to a Tour Card is wrong. Work hard. Get better. Repeat. If you can win at each level wherever you compete, move on to the next level and keep improving.
  7. Agree on getting fitted / checking specs on your clubs frequently if you’re working on several aspects of your swing, and practicing several hours per day. Your swing speed may increase with better mechanics and strength training, and a stiffer shaft than what you’re getting fitted into today may be necessary. Little details are magnified when fine-tuning everything: lie angle, bounce, shaft length, and launch characteristics of the shaft along with spin rates are all items that may need adjusting as you tweak certain elements of your swing. You most likely won’t need any major overhauls to what you’re fitted for today in the short term, but just be mindful of how new positions in your swing and shaft angles, grip, stance, or ball flight may effect certain specs of your clubs.
  8. I’ve studied the strokes gained statistics for years. They are informative and valuable. Strokes gained vs. the field or other PGA Tour members throughout a season does not measure Diece’s game or the games of other aspiring mini-tour players. It compares performance of players who have already reached golf’s highest level. Using Tiger vs. Rory examples in the context of Diece’s current improvement plan to reach the Mackenzie Tour and telling Diece that putting isn’t important is a complete misuse the Strokes Gained data. Further, when you incorrectly analyze data and conclude that “putting isn’t important,” you’re doing a disservice to the multitude of intelligent quantitative scientists using technology to make informative breakthroughs across the world. So in conclusion...Diece- continue practicing all aspects of your game. Because you earlier said that your short game and putting were “terrible,” I would simply tell you to work on becoming a good putter. It’s really hard to “go low” without making some putts. And unless you already hit it as good as Rory, or Tiger, who also happens to be in the Top-5 greatest putters ever, I still say putting is important.
  9. Putting is not really important? I bet you have some creative stats to prove that, too! Save yourself the time. Putting is important. This is a stupid conversation. I’m done replying to this thread, and i’ll even give you the chance for the last line. Have a nice day.
  10. This thread is about a kid trying to get better and pursue a mini-tour. I was simply pointing out that thousands of aspiring tour pros hit the ball really well. Their trackman data is all relatively similar. The top 50 ball-strikers in the world probably do hit it noticeably better, pure smash factor, etc., but it’s not the hardest component required to gain status on a pro tour. The top 250 in the world are machines from 120 and in. The guys outside that level aren’t quite machines yet, whether it’s their inability to putt consistently throughout a season, losing a shot per round in scrambling, or not hitting wedges the precise distance. On the PGA Tour, everyone has pretty similar exceptionally good skills with the wedge and putter. For this kid, I was pointing out that in addition to needing to have reliable and consistent ball-striking, he’d then need to become machine-like from 120 and in. Basically, he says he sucks at putting. I’m saying putting is really important.
  11. It wasn’t used to compare Tiger vs. Rory, it was used to explain the difference between someone in the top 250 in OWGR vs. someone 750 in OWGR trying to move up into the top tier.
  12. Have you considered going to college in the US? If you’re good enough to play on the Mackenzie Tour, surely some college coaches would want you on their team? And there are all sorts of options depending on your academic prowess, don’t let that deter you. There’s nothing wrong with working on your game at the college level while learning some valuable business skills for life after golf. You’d be alongside teammates who share similar goals, and you can feed off of each other and your coaches to help you along in your journey. I like your attitude- you’re resilient and confident. You’d be really good at sales. As nicely as I can say this, having been an NCAA golfer, with six years on the mini tours and $150k+ in total earnings, your swing- when viewed through the lens of top amateur competition/ pro level- is awful. Worse though, at the pro level, everyone has good enough ball-striking. It’s really about who can score the best from 120 and in, which includes putting. I’m not saying you can’t improve. But you more closely resemble a 9th grader just taking up the game than you do a top amateur on the cusp of turning pro. You say you’re a good athlete, so that’s a start. Perhaps you can improve quickly. Going from shooting 90 to 80 is easy, and then from 80 to 72 not hard, just takes time to fine-tune everything. Breaking 70 consistently to tough pins at tough courses is a 100% different process. I’d guess it’s the point in the game that 99% of aspiring tour pros reach and finally peak with no further improvement. I’m saying it’s a full-time job to get close to that level, which means you need all the resources in place to get there. To maintain it while improving each year and getting some lucky breaks along the way is a crap shoot. Everything must click at the right time, in the right events. There are thousands of aspiring players who’ve won at every level except for the professional major tours. They have no status anywhere, and it’s a tough grind to keep improving to finally get over the hump. I hope you consider college golf. Also, if nothing else this year, be humble, read about humility, and make your number one goal to be finding a good mentor. Most kids your age don’t have everything figured out. That’s ok. It’s even ok to have a few pipe dreams. In the last year you’ve posted that you’re moving to BC, Ottawa, Florida, & California. Your jobs were ditch digger and waiter, but you were about to be a $10k per month photography consultant or internet guru, while living out of a van with no internet. Now you’re considering becoming an author / publisher along with your previous mentions of becoming a painter. But your main dream and job where all your time is supposed to be allocated is to play golf. Oh, and you have no money. You’d be the perfect college student. Tons of ambition in need of personal growth and guidance. And you’d finally get that golf coach you could work with. It’s not too late. Find a mentor, be humble, and look into college golf. You have plenty of time to figure out the world with four years of college, and you might fast track a realistic way to get to the Mackenzie Tour. Good Luck!
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