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  1. Mine isn't. I decide whether I want to use the leading edge and drive the shot or use the bounce and make it float a little higher and little softer. Once I do that, then yes ... all the shots of that type are the same, only the swing is longer or faster.
  2. Do you ever open the face to create more loft?
  3. Is your 10 yard pitch the same as your 50 yard pitch?
  4. I think we’re saying the same thing. He said if you’re < 30 yards from the hole, these are your options depending on the green you’re approaching and what lie you have (4 options to hit it ... one “chip” and 3 versions of a pitch depending on how much height you need to stop the ball .. e.g., carry a bunker. But the swing is the same for every pitch.) James Sieckmann teaches the same thing. Four flights. James Ridyard teaches five. All the same shot with the same club, the only difference being the setup and whether or not you engage the bounce. The other two options were approach shots 50+ yards out. Same shot. Depending on whether you want the ball to fly softer and stop or ... you have plenty of green to work with and don’t mind if the ball hops and rolls forward after it lands. In my mind, it’s two shots. And that how he described it ... using the leading edge or the trailing edge depending on what you have to do. Clear as mud?
  5. I think we agree on that. And I can get on the green and two putt for my bogey no problem. He wants me to still have a shot at par when I miss the green. That’s the point.
  6. Is it really that complicated? It’s two shots. A leading edge shot for low trajectory chips and a trailing edge pitch shot ... where the only variables are ball position and loft. He told me that you don’t miss horizontally with wedges. It’s a distance thing ... so based on the lie and based on the green, decide which shot. Leading edge shots for when you have green to work with and trailing edge when you don’t. Seems pretty simple ...
  7. How about a Biarritz green when you’re five yard short of the green? I don’t see how you bump and run that, but if you can ... you’re a helluva lot better player than me. My local track is an RTJ course. If you can’t pitch it to the flat spots on the green ... you are D-E-A-D. Thats two I can think of ...
  8. I’ll answer it as best I can. The basic shots are low shots and high shots, so you’re on track. If I understood him correctly, you have to plan your shot based on a) the lie and b) where and how it will land. For example, a low spinny pitch is still just a pitch. It’s application is different that’s all. The “2” shots are just 50 yd half wedges. One if when the pin is further back, one is when you have to carry a slope and stop the ball. It’s not that complicated. Basically, two shots where you adjust set up based on how you need to flight the ball. Do I need all these shots? Based on my stats, he wants me to improve my scrambling %. That’s the weakest area of my game. I’ve been working with him for 4 years. He wants me to dramatically up my scrambling percentage.
  9. Ok. Had a lesson to work on my short game. My instructor wants me to focus on 4+2 shots, in addition to putting. The 4 shots are for inside 40 yds. They are: No hinge and release. Basic chip shot using the leading edge. To be used for fairway lies, not more than 10 yds off the green and no more than 35 yards to the hole. Hit it low and let it run to the hole. Bounce and check. Low spinner for pins located in the back of the green or on a tier with danger behind. To be used for 40 -60 yards because of the speed required to spin the ball. Cut pinch. High shot using clubhead release to generate speed. For carry over bunkers or other obstacles. Flop. High trajectory shot for shortside situations. The other 2: Leading edge trap. A driving partial wedge shot to drive onto the green and release and run to the hole. Trail edge floater. A higher, softer shot that uses trajectory to stop the ball. He suggested I have a game philosophy for choosing which club. For example, if <35 yds out and within 10 yds of the green, the no hinge release should be hit about 80% of ten time. If you are on a tight lie with a back pin and the green slopes slightly up in back, hit the spinner. Otherwise, pitch. When approaching, if the pin is in the back, use the trap and release. To carry a slope or stop in front, use a high lob. Any thoughts on this? He added a bunch about the lie (grass, grain, lie, etc), but these are the basics.
  10. A comment from earlier this year by Hank Haney .. “I can show you player after player statistically,” Haney said. “At one time on Tour, he (Spieth) was second in strokes gained tee-to-green. To get back to that number, it would take him at least three years, if it’s even possible.” Currently, Jordan Spieth is 155th in strokes gained tee to green. Haney suggested that an “incredible” three-year progression might be 100th in strokes gained tee to green at the end of this year, 30th or 40th next year and 10th the following. But Haney said it is just going to take some time. “You don’t go from 155th like to top 10,” Hank Haney concluded. “It doesn’t happen. It’s never happened ever.” Will he come back? It feels to me he is reverting to the mean.
  11. Here's an interesting question. I'm a golf resort recently and spoke to a highly ranked female amateur, plays D1 golf at a top school, and who was preparing for a tournament. I asked her about 65/25/10 and if she practiced that way. She said she knew all about it and no, she didn't. In fact, her woman's team does the opposite. She said it's based on the slower swing speed that women generate and that the strategy of her team, and pretty much everyone she plays, puts the ball in play and in the fairway. So the game (in her opinion) comes down to short game. Her coaches employ a 70% short game practice and 30% full swing. She admitted, it is completely different for the men's team. They practice 70% full swing and only a little on the short game. She said they can really bomb it and it's a different game for them. I'm not claiming one way or the other is accurate, but does this make sense? What do you think of her point?
  12. I have no idea if Jordan will come back or not. I’m guessing not if you just look at statistics and turnover on Tour. A good friend of mine played the Tour and has several students on the Tour today. He says all the time, “They won’t listen. It’s hard to stay focused and do the work.” Who knows? We’re all just guessing.
  13. Your handicap reflects what you actually score, on course. I’m currently an 18. On a range, I can carry a drive 260, hit 15 greens in a row from 175 and drop 20 putts in a row from 30 ft to < 3 ft. On a course, I chilly dip. 3 putt. And hook. But every 10 rounds or so, I’ll shoot the lights out. In tournaments, my peers complain when it all comes together. (Really complain!) But I only get to play 12-15 rounds a year. A handicap is my adjusted score ... it’s what I actually post. If I played 30 or 50 rounds a year, the statistics would be different. But we don’t adjust for the statistical population of samples. Still ... it’s a pretty good system...
  14. I completely redid my practice routine based on 65/25/10 ratios. I tend to practice 100 minutes daily using this framework and it's really helped provide structure to my practice. My short game has improved dramatically. Question? Is it better to practice all areas of the game (putting, short game, full swing) each day ... or ... break it up into alternating days? For example, Monday/Thursday: Short Game, Tue/Fri: Putting; Wednesday/Saturday: Full swing. (I'm also thinking of playing 9 holes a day on a par 3 course attached to the range.) Any thoughts?
  15. I've really been working on my short game lately and feeling very good about it. If I can get it near the green, I feel pretty confidant about my ability to scramble. I started by creating a list of all the typical short game shots and I think I had about 14 in total. But I was trying to reconcile all the different thoughts put out by Runyan, Rodgers, Harrington, Sieckmann and Ridyard to create a better approach to organizing how I approach this. Harrington for example, doesn't practice the belly wedge, the use of a hybrid in collection areas or the chip+run. He says the belly wedge is used too infrequently to put much time into it, the hybrid is course-specific and (this was a surprise), the chip+run isn't used on today's fast greens. It's reserved now for mostly flat greens with Stimp<9. So he doesn't practice that much anymore either. (Paul Runyan's assistant said the same thing ... although I love his book ... his assistant said the game has changed and many of Paul's techniques aren't as valid as they used to be so be careful about using too much of it.) Ridyard said not to bother with practicing the "spinny wedge" as a separate pitch because ... if the mid-trajectory pitch is set up correctly, it IS the spinny wedge. So his emphasis was on learning 5 trajectories and each trajectory has different combinations of height and spin. (But if we drop the chip+run, we have basically just 2 ... the mid and flop.) Where does that leave me? I practice the following ... Fringe chip-putts (this is Runyan with the heel up) Short pitches from the rough onto the green (< 5 yards) A mid-trajectory pitch from about 20 yards (from fairway) Flop shot over a bunker 1/2 wedge from 30-40 yards from fairway (and another from rough) 3/4 wedge from 50-60 yards Short sand shot (15 yards), Medium sand shot (22 yards), Long sand shot (29 yards) Shots onto the green from various lies (uphill, downhill, side slopes, etc.) Does that sound reasonable? Or am I overcomplicating this? It works with practice because I start closest to the pin and work my way to the 3/4 wedges before moving onto the full swing which is where I spend most of my time. Interested in any thoughts ... Also, both Ridyard and Harrington said to forget the clock when adjusting distance on pitches. Use speed instead. I've started doing this and it actually works better. Thoughts?
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