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  1. What's to know? Foley made a bunch of asinine comments that dumped on guys who have been nothing but generous with their time and knowledge.

    To know what questions he was asked and his full answer.

    frobenius, you don't seem to know what went down, or what Sean teaches, or the words he uses, or where his knowledge was two years ago, etc. Nobody's said that "all" Foley teaches is S&T;, but "5%"? That's the insulting bit. Conservatively, he's only off by 60%. Conservatively.

    Well considering that I've read different versions by different people about their relationship without explicit detail, its hard to really know "what went down" and no I don't know where Sean was in his career two years ago, care to fill me in the details of his career and the evolution of his thought on the golf swing? The fact is he was influenced by Mike and Andy and probably subsequently by what influenced them, TGM and probably a lot of sources. The 5% comment was factious, especially when considering Sean O'Hair. I didn't imply Mike and Andy wanted him to thank them publicly, but even before he started teaching Tiger, some people were bashing him for teaching S&T; and not giving credit and the only way it would appease them would be to publicly thank them.


  2. I think it's got to be incredibly frustrating to see two of the nicest guys in the world who simply want to help people - and who do, and who are passionate, and kind, and spent hundreds of hours helping Sean Foley - get dumped on because two people left and another guy has to not only not give credit (not a BIG deal), but then dump on them.

    Its not all about Sean Foley, to call out two players like that was tasteless even if he's friends with them. About Foley, I still don't know the entire context of that article. Its not a full transcript of an interview and I think you could interpret Sean as being sarcastic with that "watered down" quote and people bashing him leave out how Sean talked about his respect for them. Its not just what he stated in that article, its about S&T; aficionados feeling that he needs to publicly thank P&B; for his success, even before that article, people were bashing him for teaching what they perceive as S&T; (even though its fully not and S&T; principles show up in a lot of pro swings). As someone who is learning to use some S&T; principles, this is growing tired.


  3. And your the one who stated the following several montrhs back:

    LOL, do you know what speculation and insinuation means? How did I do so? Do you have any reasoning skills? I was asking for empirical evidence, which at the time there was none and later there was, e.g. that voicemail message.


  4. So frobenius, Hows that baseless speculation and insinuation look now after all the empirical evidence thats came out?

    At the time it was baseless speculation without any empirical evidence. He had admitted to his affairs after it pretty much established with evidence that there was,i.e. when that voicemail message appeared and other forms of evidence. But dude, you said that Tom Watson tanked the British Open playoff and said that the reason that Tiger Woods needed to become more muscular was because his sponsors wanted him to and you have no proof that Tiger ever has done any steriods or HGH. He might have or is, but I have no evidence, we'll see what happens with the Dr. Galea case.


  5. You have to remember Cornbread is the guy who said Tom Watson deliberately tanked it in the Open Championship playoff. He's about baseless speculation and insinuation, empirical evidence has no basis for him.

  6. Saturday was a true example of why Eldrick Woods is so disliked by so many.

    When exactly was he cursing and what did he say? I have the round on DVR.

    Ahh... he's pretty much been gone since the PGA Tour started Drug Testing in 2008... you know, the same week he had his "Knee Problems".

    Yeah, his 2009 season was so lousy. Only won PGA tour Player of the Year by winning tournaments. I love how you put knee problems in quotes, as far as insinuating that he faked his injury. You are incapable at showing any form empirical evidence to back your insinuation. Sounds like to me that you just heavily dislike the guy and will say this stuff even though it makes you look foolish.


  7. As much as I hated seeing Tiger play so well yesterday, it was worth it to watch him crash and burn today. Anyone see the telling post round interviews with Tiger and then Phil? Tiger was given a "gimme question" like "what positives can you take away from today's round?". He answers negatively like a complete a-hole. Phil isn't given a gimme question because they don't need to try to protect his image and Phil talked about his struggles with the putter then talks about how great the tournament at Pebble Beach was. That's why I always want Tiger to lose right there....he's just not very likable. Phil is great and I'm always wanting him to do well. Note that I'm not saying anything negative about Tiger's game. He's unreal and will, sadly, be back on top before long. Anyone catch the pitiful dialogue on Saturday where the announcers were saying that now that Tiger's playing well it's OK to root for him again (like he's a different person because his pants are up, he's not at Denny's and he's hitting a golf ball well)?

    Pretty classless and against the spirit of the game to root against a golfer. I will never root for a golfer to miss or hit poor shots.


  8. Hey guys, Davis Love III shot 30 on the front yesterday - does that mean he´s "back"? It´s intresting to see how Tiger gets hyped up over 9 holes he played.

    You were the guy who said that Woods didn't have a round in him to get into contention. Sure you we've all had 9 hole hotstreaks and going out to the next day to repeat is hard. But we're not playing in the US Open and are the best player in the world. Yes one round doesn't mean "he's back", but it does show us quite a bit.


  9. Anyone else think Notah Begay brings a big bag of nothing to the commentary table on the golf Channel? I remember he came on the scene when all of Tiger's issues were breaking. Did they purposely bring him in for Tiger insider info and now they're just stuck with him? Am I the only one?

    I think most of their pro commentators bring little to the table.


  10. It goes to character although that wasn't what I was specifically referring to. In this world of paparazzi and tell-all-tales, he was able to hide at least 15 affairs, no one suspected him of that.

    I'm pretty sure he said that his knee felt 100% when asked about his knee.


  11. I agree, Ol' Lefty has a very good chance at his 3rd green jacket, and I'll be pulling for him

    I was watching and I don't think he droped an F-bomb, but I'd have to watch a replay to be sure.

    Here are some quotes from golf writers: Charlie Hanger, executive editor, Sports Illustrated: I thought Notah Begay on Golf Channel was funny when asked about the outburst. He gave Tiger credit for subbing one fairly benign four-letter word for another, much dirtier word. A step in the right direction! Give the man some credit. Gary Van Sickle, senior writer, Sports Illustrated: As long as Tiger isn't dropping f-bombs or flinging clubs, he's headed in the right direction. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him build Rome in a day, you know? Give Tiger some time. Swearing is pretty far down his list of immediate concerns.

  12. I think we'll be seeing Phil wear his third green jacket tomorrow. I've read elsewere that people think what Tiger said constituted as a curse word and criticized his "vulgar" speach. Yeah, "suck" and "goddammit", those are just so terrible. I can think of some words he could have used that are indeed vulgar, but those aren't. Are golf fans this prude? Wow.

  13. The fact is, psychologists disagree on whether sex addiction is a true disease, so I think either point of view is valid. However I think it's telling that, unlike alcoholism, substance abuse, and pathological gambling to name a few, "sex addiction" is

    That is fine, even if you disagree with it, people should bother studying the topic before automatically dismissing it is my point. Neurological studies are being conducted to see if the brains from sexual addicts are changing and prominent scholars such as Dr. Patrick Carnes of Pine Grove Rehabilitation and Dr. Martin Kafka from Harvard .The American Psychological Association is currently debating its merits; and consensus changes so just because its not published in one book is not very telling at all really.


  14. I guess you don't have children. This guy is supposed to be a role model, like it or not. And he has failed miserably. It's time to show what a real man does. Man up. And yes, I have publicly admitted transgressions and made amends. Didn't do it on television or in the media.....because I'm not a world class, famous athlete!!

    Maybe those children should learn to respect peoples' private lives and give them a lesson how creepy our culture is.

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