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Fourputt last won the day on March 8 2017

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  1. Fourputt

    Paying for handicap scam

    I've been around a lot longer than you and I never heard of him before. Guess I was just lucky.
  2. Fourputt

    Should divots be considered ground under repair?

    "Ground under repair" comes under the heading of "abnormal ground". Divot holes (yes that is the proper way to discuss them - the "divot" is the flap of turf that has been removed) are not the least bit abnormal on a golf course, so they don't really qualify. There is nothing in the rules which says that a player is entitled to a pristine lie, whether in the fairway or in the rough. He is entitled to take relief if certain circumstances exist, but that isn't an all encompassing right. Sprinklers may be normal now, but, unlike divots which have been a part of the golf course since its inception, they haven't always been. Also, they are a man made object, and as such fit the definition of "obstruction", and that's covered under a different rule.
  3. Just for your information, if the ball moves up or down, it has changed position and is a breach of 18-2, even if it still lies in the same nest of grass. Vertical movement is still moving under the rules. Only if after moving down, the ball then returns to the same place where it was before the movement, can the player escape the penalty.
  4. Fourputt

    2018 Masters Tournament Discussion Topic

    Not me. I can't get past the stories of his cheating college career. I doubt that he will ever be someone I'd root for.
  5. Unless your ball lies in a hazard, you are allowed to ground your club. If that results in slightly depressing the grass or other vegetation, then you are still allowed to do it as long as the ball doesn't move, and you don't press any harder than just letting the club rest there. In most cases, briefly resting your club on grass does not result in improving your lie, because the grass will usually spring back as soon as you start your backswing.
  6. Although this decision refers to play in a water hazard, it contains a defacto definition of "grounding" as it applies in the overall game. If the player does something to increase that compression in any way, he is in breach, and I feel that PGA Tour players commonly get away with this one. It doesn't matter if that is his normal routine. In the fairway it really doesn't make any difference, but there are often lies in the rough where it can be significant, and I've seen it before where a player pretty clearly "helped" the club rest a bit more heavily than gravity would seem to have done. I believe that Spieth did improve his lie, that he pressed down as he addressed the ball, but I also think that the video is inconclusive.
  7. Fourputt

    Loose impediments, when has a ball moved?

    Seems to me that it would be quite a trick to rotate the ball on its vertical axis, without touching it, while moving a loose impediment and still be 100% certain that it didn't move as defined in the rules. In practical application, the ball will invariably have "moved".
  8. Fourputt

    To all you golfers who drive a pickup truck

    I have a soft tonneau cover to keep them out of sight, and my tailgate locks when I lock the doors. I never have any problems with them moving around. I drive 150 miles each way to golf tournaments in Denver at least once a month during the season, and I haven't had any issues with it. When I'm home the clubs hang on a peg in the garage and only come down for my Tuesday evening league or an occasional 9 hole hole round with a friend.
  9. Fourputt

    Wearing Out Grooves; Seriously?!

    I have a brass bristle brush that hangs on my bag. I use that to keep the grooves clean while playing. Brass is softer than steel by a fair amount, so it can't do any damage to the club face. The dirt and sand that naturally gets pinched during a swing will cause far more wear that any cleaner I've ever seen. Even when striking the ball first, the ball itself will often have some dirt on it to act as an abrasive on the club face. Bunker sand can kill a sand wedge, especially if you practice a lot. A friend of mine used to work at Castle Pines, where The International used to be played on the Tour. He was watching a couple of the pros hitting balls on the range during the practice days before the tournament started. One of them stopped after a swing, looked at the face of his club, then tossed it aside and told his caddie to go get another club (apparently he had a complete bag full of spares). He hit a few shots with the new club, seemed satisfied and they left the range a few minutes later, leaving the discarded club behind. Todd slipped under the rope and picked up the club, a 4 iron, and looked at it. It was worn out right on the sweet spot, visibly concave to point of affecting the ball flight. If a pro, who makes contact almost perfectly every swing, can wear out a club, it's certainly likely that an amateur will do so with his far less than perfect ball striking, as long as he plays enough. Used wrong, or using the wrong one, can make your clubs nonconforming if they leave too sharp an edge on the grooves.
  10. Fourputt

    Wearing Out Grooves; Seriously?!

    The edges aren't sharp even from the factory. The rules require that they have a .010" radius. Anything sharper is nonconforming.
  11. You really think that a national championship isn't life and eath to a college player? Really? That may be the only shot at stardom for a lot of those players. Most players, even on a championship team, won't make it to the NBA. And the pro players are still taking home a paycheck regardless of whether or not they play their best game. As long as they don't tank completely, it really won't make any difference in their careers. Unlike a golfer, they aren't totally dependent on their own play to succeed. A certain amount of complacency is often seen in professional team sports. Granted that if it lasts very long, a shakeup will occur, but I contend that the amateur team player has more on the line when a championship is at stake than most pro players do. That's OT anyway, and pretty much irrlelvant to golf. It's a demonstrable fact that most amateurs do NOT do as much as they can to be their absolute best. Whether it s time, money, or just plain desire, they simply fail to achieve their maximum potential, and that applies to their overall game as well as to most individual rounds.
  12. Fourputt

    Why Don't More Clubs Paint The Holes?

    To be honest, I don't want the hole to be more visible peripherally when I'm putting - it would just be a distraction. I'm aiming at a spot on my line about a foot in front of the ball. I use the hole to pick a line for the putt and to feel the distance, after which I never look at it. I don't need a white rim for that. As far as expense, believe me, the typical public course will do anything that makes sense to shave even $25 per month off the bottom line. If painting the hole costs anything at all, I don't see it happening on any course I play. I really can't recall ever having played a course that does it, and I can't say that it was an issue. My home course tried the plastic rings for a season, but as they broke or disappeared, they didn't replace them. Nobody cared.

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