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iacas posted a topic in Swing Thoughtshttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155565805469227 If you're a friend of mine in the "Golf" group on The Facebook, you can see that post and follow the discussion there. I posted something similar on Twitter earlier in the day: Just 18 words. Very simple. Not considering the various things like COM, spine tilt, where your weight is, how far forward your hands are, the lie angle of the club, how far you've gripped down, the bounce you have, the vertical swing plane, your wedge's grind profile… yada yada. Just a simple point that I think most people will get. And, because it's The Facebook, a few people argued. So I filmed myself. The camera is a bit back, so in both shots the ball position appears to be further forward than it is, but I think this is illustrative: A shallower hit, per the first graph, gives more margin for error, even when hitting a chip shot. It's not even, in this case, about using much bounce/glide. It's simply about controlling the height of the wedge to hit the ball on the same place. On the left, the height of the wedge is varying at a faster rate than on the right. One pleasant fella had this to say (over two comments): To that, two things: PGA Tour pros are far better than most golfers at controlling the height of the clubhead. Most PGA Tour pros DO NOT, in fact, play the ball back in their stance for the majority of their shots. Most play it pretty much in the center. The fine gentleman quoted there continued to post, saying that players hit it fat or thin because they "dip" and that if you're not teaching players to chip with the ball back in their stance, you're not teaching them "correctly," and that's the point at which most people stopped interacting with him. @mvmac posted some photos, as did @kroetschypga, showing that a lot of PGA Tour players don't chip with the ball well back. So, I'm not saying that you shouldn't play the ball back, ever, with a wedge while trying to hit a chip shot. There are times for that. But, if you're chipping from a tight lie, and you're not a PGA Tour pro, playing the ball closer to the center of your stance still has shaft lean, it still has a lower launching ball, and it offers added forgiveness over playing the ball well back in your stance. It's just simple geometry. Use it to help you. Original Twitter and Facebook posts were a result of this conversation: Thanks.