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  1. I was hitting a Seve driver Ballesteros 10.5 loft driver and irons with regular flex. Never gave flex much thought until now. Was looking to buy a set of TaylorMade (TM) M1 Irons and 'woods'. To better understand what flex I needed, I went for a 30 min lesson with radar for club head speed and tracker for distance etc. TM recommend assessment using 6 iron and driver. 6 iron head speed was 92 mph and distance 168 yards. TM would rate this as Stiff for distance and Tour Stiff for head speed. The driver head speed wasn't measured but average distance over 100 balls was 258 yards and max was 286 yards. TM would recommend Tour Still for max distance but Stiff for average distance. As I am coming back from a 5-7 year hiatus, the instructor said the head speed and distance would only get better. I took ownership of the M1 .9.5 loft yesterday afternoon. I ordered Stiff in both irons and 'woods' based on instructor recommendation and TM fitting table albeit I was concerned that, should my game improve, I would need Stiffer So here's the question: I was hitting yesterday 258 yards average, and 286 yards max over 100 balls with the old Seve 10.5 loft and reg flex. I expected to blitz that with the new M1 9.5 loft with Stiff flex. I was wrong. I am obtaining only 244 yards average distance over 100 balls and 276 yard. Well short of my Seve. Worth noting that both has similar consistency. Any advice? Is the guide flex chart wrong? Is it the loft insufficient?
  2. Before you make a smug comment. Yes, it bothers me too no end. Tired of the male ego. Most amateur golfers averages 220 yards(yes with roll) if they are lucky. I mean just the other day i was talking about this on reddit and some guy said I'd be lucky to hit 260 with my slow looking swing. Hes trying to act like this distance is a bad thing. I'd be in the top 10 percentile regarding distance against amateurs. Seen so many people talk shit on reddit and once i browse through their history i'm able to obtain their swing video and its laughable. Ya right you carry it 280... give me a effing break. Just stop nobody believes you swing 115 too 120 mph bro. Statistic data backs up my point. Most 0-5 handicap only averages 250 distance. I have never ran across someone IRL who hits 300 and i play single twilight heavily and mix up with people all the time. No, that one perfect drive you muscled out their with all your might bouncing off a cart-path doesn't mean you average 300. I've rarely ran across anyone who hit it further than i do. Usually only time this occurs was when i use to play AJGA tournaments as a junior and these guys shoot under par on the regular. Most people also don't even read the articles provided and brush it off stating it has "old people" mixed into it. If they actually read the article it goes by handicap. That "old guy" who has a 5 handicap can out-drive your 30+ handicap ass anyday and i put my house on it. https://mygolfspy.com/mygolfspy-labs-your-distance-reality-check/ https://blog.trackmangolf.com/performance-of-the-average-male-amateur/
  3. Update (9-19-18): https://www.snapsurveys.com/wh/s.asp?k=153511775654 <---- Visit that URL and complete the survey, please! http://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/advancing-the-game/distance-insights.html Many of you have shared their feedback here (the topic below), but the USGA is courting it at the URL above: Have at it! The USGA and The R&A Launch Golf's Global Distance Insights Project LIBERTY CORNER, N.J. USA AND ST ANDREWS, SCOTLAND (May 15, 2018) - The United States Golf Association (USGA) and The R&A have launched a comprehensive project to analyze distance in golf and gather perspectives from the worldwide golf community. The Distance Insights project will examine distance through a multi-pronged approach that includes global stakeholder engagement, third-party data review and primary research. Focus groups and discussion forums will play an important role in the project, to secure a broad range of perspectives throughout golf. Beginning today, anyone interested in the topic can provide feedback by visiting usga.org/distanceinsights or randa.org/distanceinsights or by emailing either association directly. “The topic of increased distance and its effects on the game have been discussed for well over a century. We believe that now is the time to examine this topic through a very wide and long lens, knowing it is critical to the future of the game,” said Mike Davis, CEO of the USGA. “We look forward to delving deeply into this topic and learning more, led by doing right by golf, first and foremost.” Martin Slumbers, Chief Executive of The R&A, said, “Distance in golf is a complex issue which is widely debated at all levels of the sport. It is important that we collate all of the relevant data and hear the many different perspectives on this issue that exist in the international golf community. We intend to conduct this process openly, comprehensively and promptly and will work with all of the key stakeholders to ensure we have a fully rounded view of distance and its implications.” Stakeholder groups invited to participate in the project include amateur and professional golfers, worldwide professional golf tours, golf course owners and operators, golf equipment manufacturers, golf course architects, golf course superintendents and others. Among the many topics to be explored, the organizations will seek distance-related data on pace of play, golf course construction and maintenance practices, the evolution of equipment, golf course design and player enjoyment and participation. The USGA and The R&A will engage various golf industry stakeholders through 2018, with plans to deliver a report in 2019.
  4. I was recently fitted for a new set of Ping i500 irons. I was playing an older set of Mizuno JPX 800 pros. After a few hours on the range, it didn’t look like the new irons were going longer. The lofts on the i500 are about 2 degrees less than my mizuno (long to mid iron, pw and gw are the same) My 7-iron is about a 170 yard club, but I seem to be about 5-10 yards shorter with the new irons. During the fitting, I went thru about 4 different shafts before I got something that gave me good numbers in the Trackman. Does anyone have any experience in this area? I know the i500 has been promoted as being longer, so I wasn’t expecting less distance.
  5. iacas

    Do You Play the Correct Tees?

    Per this chart, do you play the correct tees? Here are the tee yardages per the chart above (see the bottom of the chart for 9- and 18-hole yardages): In other words, if you carry the ball 200 with your driver and it rolls out to 215 to 220 or so, you should be playing a course that's about 5618 yards. Carry it 225 so it rolls out to nearly 250, and you can move up to 6276. Only those who carry it 250 (total of 270 or so) should play from as far back as 6830.
  6. From time to time, the topic of modern irons and jacked up lofts comes up and a common criticism is that individual irons hitting farther creates wider gaps at the scoring end of the bag. I thought about this a little bit and I realized, as I'm getting better at the game, I almost never hit a full swing on an approach shorter than 150 yards. I've always liked the partial wedge yardage system and this year I finally mapped mine, but I also find myself using the knockdown or 3/4 swing approach to hitting greens with short irons more and more. As a result, even though my full swing yardage gaps are wider towards that end of the bag than they would be with "traditional" (I use the quotation marks there because I've been using a set of modern blades which are closer to traditional lofts) irons, I'm not actually losing anything in terms of having options for specific yardages. In fact, I have far more options available to me inside 150 than I do outside of it. This made me think a bit about the rest of the bag. I like my blades, but they're about half a club shorter than my GI irons and as long as I don't have issues with holding greens, I want those 5-7 extra yards. That can't hurt my game at all. It makes me want to go back to "jacked up" GI irons for my next set. Yes, irons going farther forces you to carry more wedges, but I like carrying 3 or 4 wedges and I like how it has forced me to learn different shots for different situations. I can understand how some people would be unhappy that their full swing gaps are wider where it counts the most, but I feel that forcing yourself into only full swing options kind of holds you back. Thoughts?
  7. Here's Mike Bender, otherwise a good instructor, doling out some misguided information. First, let's see how accurate that is: At 100 yards in the rough, PGA Tour players average 3.02. At 175 in the fairway, they average 3.07. Close enough. At 80, it's 2.96. At 155, it's 2.97. Close enough. At 120, it's 3.08. At 195, it's 3.17. That's not super close - it's a tenth of a stroke, or 1.4 strokes in favor of being in the rough per round. At 140, it's 3.15. At 215, it's 3.3. Not really close. Over a round with 14 driver holes, that's 2.1 strokes. Here's the other problem, and it's one commonly made by people who make comments like "distance sounds great but I don't want to play every drive from the trees." This isn't how it works. The longer hitters are not "hitting from the trees" all that often. In fact, despite what Mike Bender says, they're not hitting from the ROUGH much more often, either. Look at the 2017 driving accuracy stats. First place: 72.73% (by absolute world-beater [sarcasm] Ryan Armour). A player who hits 2 fewer fairways ranks all the way down at almost 125th place (at about 58.44% fairways hit). Those people are Bryson DeChambeau, Justin Rose, and Branden Grace. Being as little as 20 yards ahead on EVERY tee shot OFTEN outweigh the disadvantage of being in the rough one to two extra times per round. (72.73% of 14 is 10.18, 58.44% is 8.18.) It's not like short hitters are gaining strokes with every drive. Truth be told, they're only gaining strokes on about 2 to 2.5 drives per round. On the other 12 or so, they're losing strokes to the longer hitters: they're losing strokes on the 8.18 fairways the longer hitters also hit, and the 3.82 fairways that even the short hitters miss. Mike Bender should know better. One of his students, Zach Johnson, would absolutely take an extra 20-30 yards, even if it came at the cost of a fairway or two per round. After all…
  8. My shoulder isn't 100% and it's going to rain, but f*** it I'm going golfing tomorrow.

    1. nevets88

      nevets88

      Go for it!

  9. JonMA1

    When Do You Lay Up?

    The three things I can think of that determine when I lay up and when I go for a green are 1) distance, 2) lie, and 3) how protected the green is. (There are other factors such as the weather or how I'm playing on a particular day, but I thought it would be better to keep it simple.) I'll start off by saying that I can't remember ever laying up on a par 3. I don't play long courses or from the back tees much, so a par 3 beyond 200 yards is rare. Most of those longer par 3's generally have more room for less than perfect shots. So I'm mostly asking about approach shots from the fairway or rough. Distance This is probably the biggest determining factor for me. My longest club for approach shots is my 5w (I recently gave my 3w away). While GG shows I average 192 yards with that club, 180 yards from off the deck is a decent shot. I rarely try approach shots with this club, but will occasionally. The other factors - the target and the lie - play a bigger role with this club than with my long irons. I've learned not to hit out of the rough with this club unless the ball is sitting up, and anything with much of a slope almost guarantees a wayward shot or poor contact. It's something I have to work on but for now, better to lay up than to hit out of a bad lie to a tight green with this club. As far as irons, I try not to lay up when shorter than 150 yards (6 iron) regardless of how tight the green is - as long as the lie isn't horrible. I will try for the green with my 5 or 4i as long as there's room somewhere for a miss. Lie I'd define a decent lie as being on the fairway or in normal rough and sitting up. The ground doesn't have to be perfectly flat, but downhill lies are tougher for me than uphill ones. As the slope increases, so does the difficulty. Fairway bunkers can be tough. I've hit greens from them, but it's tough for me to pick the ball out of a bunker with any kind of consistency. When hit cleanly, I get close to my standard distances... maybe a bit less. The thick rough is difficult for me. I have to remember to grab more club and I rarely get good contact and a high ball flight. If I have a water hazard in front of a green, I would have to think hard about trying for the green from 150 yards with a ball in this thick stuff. As for trouble shots, I'll try to get close to the green with them, but I don't really consider that going for it. If it happens great, but that result is generally more of a happy accident. Greens While I don't hit well from green side bunkers, they aren't as bad as water, and water isn't as bad as thick woods or brush (as in always a lost ball or unplayable lie). Any green that is free of this on three sides is an easier green. I don't mean easy to hit, just easier to go for - even with a fairway wood. Water or brush tight on two sides is an average hole. I'd likely lay up if left with more that 180 yds, but with an ok lie, I'm probably going for it from 170 (4i). These are the kinds of holes where shot zones really help. As a high capper, I obviously can't hit small greens very often with long irons. But I'd like to think I can shift the center of my shot zone over to miss the trouble areas. If I have two sides of a green that are open, I like my chances of leaving myself a short chip at worse. There are a couple holes I play that have trouble tight on all 4 sides. These are the holes I'll go for with mid irons and think twice about with anything longer. Not to say I never hit long irons into them, but I'd need a good lie, a good angle and a bit of confidence on that day. So with my giant shot zones and wimpy distances, I'll rarely go for the green from 190 (off the deck), but will rarely lay up from 150 and in. How about anyone else? When do you decide to play it safe and why?
  10. I'm having a hard time producing the right launch angle on my driver, last week I worked on a trackman and my carry distance with my driver was on average about 215. My ball speed came in at about 139-141 on average but my launch angle was only at a 9. I haven't shot higher then 82 in the past three months but I feel like if I can get my drivers distance up a tad I can have more shorter irons into greens. I have a stiff shaft that came with my driver (titliest 915 d2). My swing coach says that usually if a players ball speed is under 140 is best to stay with a regular shaft. I'm right on the edge of regular and stiff, will getting a regular shaft make a considerable difference? How can I get my launch angle up to 10-12? Thanks!
  11. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/golfputt-ar/id1289750170?ls=1&mt=8 It's gonna be awhile before I'm on a putting green (maybe this afternoon), but the author wrote and the app can be used free. For $1.99 you can disable ads.
  12. I'm interested in Michelle Wie's swing in 2017. So far she's returning back to her peak level. I like her shortened upswing and controlled downswing. To my surprise, this "stinger-like" swing doesn't cost much distance at all. Check this out, comments are welcome!
  13. I have a Callaway Big Bertha Alpha with a stiff shaft (my irons are super stiff, my woods are stiff) and I can't hit it very far. I can hit my 7 iron 145-155 using a typically relaxed swing (i'm not trying to hit it very hard), I can hit my 3 hybrid 200-210 and a 3 wood as far as 225 yards off the tee, however I can only hit my driver an average of 230ish. My longest drive was 290, 250 yard drives are somewhat uncommon and 200 yard drives are relatively common. I can post a video if needed but as of now I'm curious about anything people have done when they were in a similar situation. I should also point out its 9 degrees and set on -1 loft and on a draw setting, I usually hit it relatively low, but I can shape my shot to go higher/lower if needed.
  14. QUESTION: How far from the ball should your feet be during a the golf swing? Obviously, your entire body needs to be in alignment. Is there a general rule of thumb as to how far away from the ball your feet should be planted? Any and all advice is welcome!
  15. So for the longest time, I've been trying to learn and accomplish a draw with my driver. After taking several lessons and countless hours on the range, I think I can count the number of times I've actually succeeded in hitting a draw on one hand. . However, I have been able to tweak my slice into more of a fade and am now thinking I should just embrace the fade, line up on the right side of the tee box and let it rip. BUT, the one issue that remains is the lack of distance. One main reason I wanted to learn the draw was to get a bit more roll and more distance on my drives. Does anybody have any tips on increasing distance with the fade? Tips on hitting a power fade? OR, do I just need to work on increasing my swing speed for more distance?
  16. leftiewannabe

    When a new swing goes too far

    Hello all, first post. I've been playing golf for about 17 years (I'm only 32) with my own clubs as a leftie and primarily been using cheap clubs. I got really good at my pitching wedge early and felt like it was mastered. Over the last few years I've gone off and on with trying to get better without upgrading irons or anything, bought a used driver or new fairway driver but that was about it. About 2-3 months ago I finally bought a new set of Taylormade burner 2.0 irons to complement my other clubs and started playing almost daily. Since then I've hit balls or played at least 9 holes 6 out of 7 days and focused on trying to find consistency. I've always had a strong but inconsistent grip so I went more neutral, slowed down my swing, and tried to become a golfer that focuses on consistency over distance. About a week ago I got tired of my neutral grip / swing, mainly because I wasn't seeing a decrease in average score and my shots were improving but only about 70% of the time, and the 30% were slicing worse than I've ever seen before in my life. I felt better about knowing that I was swinging more consistently but I felt I wasn't swinging the way I should be. I had a fade but it wasn't repeatable enough to play as a fade. I started hitting about 200 range balls a day last week testing out a stronger grip and I started seeing results that were more consistent with how I've swung before (lower but straighter on mishits) and then a few days ago it just clicked. My hands weren't in sync with each other and I started trying out an interlocking grip. Since then I had one range session that was an abomination (the first one) every one since then has been 100+ balls each (more than once more per day) and I've been hitting the ball so long and so consistent that I'm super timid about the results. 1. I line my body and club up straight at the target and my ball has a consistent fade that lands closer than ever before. 2. I'm swinging slower on the backswing and using an interlocking grip but only until I hit the top, and then just swinging through. 3. When I finish my swing I find that my club feels like it ended up perfectly and even when I mishit I'm hitting it almost exactly where I was aiming where before this could have been 100yds off target due to slice. The problem is that I'm hitting farther than I ever imagined. I am about 6'0 and 205 lbs and I'm hitting like Bubba at the moment based on having someone at the range with a range finder verifying distances. *But those distances are more accurate and consistent than ever* ex. - PW- 150+ 9I - 160-165 7I - 200-210 5I - 225+ Driver - Hitting the top of the net on a 240yd range with about 40yd tall net I was previously swinging much slower but with this new grip and my comfort in the swing I feel like I'm swinging too hard but I'm hitting more consistent than I have in my life, even though I've added at least 25 yards to each club. Should I be worried or should I embrace it? I'm typically a bogey to double-bogey golfer mainly due to tee shots and over-thinking them so I'm wanting to embrace the new found distance and thought process but it's got me worried.
  17. CarlSpackler

    What I Love About Golf

    Several recent threads on the forum got me thinking, what is it that I really love about golf. Why do I spend precious time and money on a sport that I am decent at, but certainly can't call myself good. My (unofficial) handicap is now at 10.7. It is only that low because of some very good rounds that I played late last year, so it is probably a bit lower than it realistically should be. I would love to get down a bit more into the single digit range, but I'm not sure if I can make that happen. Perhaps moving to Florida and not having the 3-4 month winter break will keep me warm this year and prevent those higher springtime scores that raise my handicap. I love shooting good scores, but that is really not what excites me about the game. I love walking the fairways and seeing the birds and other wildlife. Not too long ago, I was playing my home course in Ohio for the last time and noticed this guy swimming around in the water. Then there was this guy hanging out in the grass last year. I've seen bald eagles, hawks, deer, and yes, lots of groundhogs on that course. Thankfully I have yet to encounter alligators or venomous snakes here in Florida. I do love nature, but that isn't what gets me out on the course. Lord knows there are much less expensive ways to view wildlife. I have fond memories of following my Dad and Grandpa around Penn Terra golf course (now closed) as a youngster. I had my own clubs and a cart and would whack my ball along as they played. My dad would have me pick up my ball after a few "worm burners" and drop it by his ball. That would infuriate me to no end. I wanted to hit it past them so bad it hurt. That is what leads me to what I love the most about golf. It's this guy. That's right. It's the big dog. The annihilator. The Dig D. The Boss. I love hitting the driver. Approach shots, pitches, chips, putting are all things that I need to do to finish the hole and post a score, but this guy is what drives me (pun intended) to keep playing. I just want to hit it further and further. It will misbehave every now and then, but it is truly my BFF. If I were to get remarried today, this would be my best man. Perhaps if I learned to love my other clubs as much, I could reach that single digit handicap.
  18. "Angular accuracy" just means this: the measurement, in degrees, between the intended target and where your ball came to rest. If you hit your tee shot 250 yards to a 40-yard wide fairway, just missing the fairway after aiming at the center is an error of about 4.6°. On a 150-yard approach shot to a 25-yard wide green, putting the ball in the fringe is a 4.8° error if you were aiming at the center of the flag.
  19. In one of my swing lesson sessions, I asked my instructor about how to add distance to my drive. As part of the discussion, we talked about physical exercise I have been doing for golf. He then told me to add forearm strengthening exercises - windmills, wrist curls. I have been doing them for a few months now and feel that it is helping me hit a few yards longer. I've heard others claim similar result. Do you agree (or disagree) that forearm strengthening is an effective way to increase distance compare to other strengthening exercises?
  20. Interesting post from Geoff Shackelford. Where do you stand on the distance issue? http://www.geoffshackelford.com/homepage/2015/12/22/2015-wrap-where-are-we-on-the-distance-issue.html
  21. so I have always played any ball I can find etc. and always buy cheap nitro golf balls. this year I'm going to try to just use one ball and see if it matters at all. so I'm looking to buy about 100 top flight xl as there are cheaper price about 55 cents per ball and a name brand. I understand they may not perform as well around the green . but I still loose 2 many balls , to use any ball that's over 1.50$ per ball . my questions is will I loose distance using these or other cheaper name brand golf balls? vs. the more expensive balls . because I can afford more expensive balls, but it might get very painful to play a round and loose multiple 3.00 balls. thanks for any answers . these top flights are on sale now so I will buy a large amount for next season if people like them. they do get good reviews on the site that sells them ....but I rather see what you guys and gals think first thanks...
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