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I'm interested in getting fit for an Edel putter and am willing to try either the classic or the torque balanced putters. I live in the Palm Beach, FL area and was wondering if anyone had recommendations for a fitter in either Palm Beach or Broward counties. I was also curious if anyone had experience with getting the fitting at the PGA Tour Superstore (they are listed as a fitter on the Edel website) and if there is a vast difference in getting the fitting there versus another fitter. Thanks!
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Earlier today I fit a college player and a reasonably good putter with an Edel putter. His putter was a typical blade - the old PING/Cameron/Everyone-Has-a-Version classic blade putter with some heel/toe weighting. He could aim his putter, from about ten feet (bear in mind that the laser reflects back over the same ten feet, doubling the error), to about four inches outside the right edge of the cup. Not great, but not as bad as we've seen from many. His putter had a single, solitary thin line on the top part of the putter. What was his best fit putter? It was an almost identical Edel putter: the Umpqua head with no lines or dots at all. In fact, when I gave him just a dot - I like to give some players a bit more help to center the ball up beside just the heel/toe weighting - he aimed it about an inch right of the cup. Trying something, I drew a line on the putter. Bam! Back out to a cup right. Take the line away? Center of the cup every time. Sometimes the tiniest of things makes a fairly big difference. Where it pulled his focus and attention, I don't know, but it resulted in some pretty big changes. Just a little dot. P.S. His putter was also pretty badly weighted for him, too, or else I'd have recommended he find some way to make that putter work and save the cost of the Edel putter.
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What's an Edel Putter worth? About 1.6 putts per round
KWGolfNerd posted a topic in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting
My Edel putter story: Short version: Switching to an Edel putter saved me an average of 1.6 putts per round, based on a comparison of 10 years of hole by hole data, all taken from league play at my home course. Best golf money I have ever spent. Long version: For Christmas 2014, my marvellous wife bought me an Edel Putter. My fitting was with Ryan at The Golf Lab in Toronto. Of note: instead of the mirror test, they do the whole thing using a SAM putt lab...which is brilliant. Super accurate, and I got to go home with some fancy charts and graphs showing the difference between my original Ping Craz-E, and the new Edel flatstick. My initial putts showed that I lined up about 1.5 degrees closed, then my swing path goes about 2.5 degrees outward. Face angle relative to path stayed roughly constant at impact, so the net effect was about a 0.9 degree push to the right on every putt. As per Dave Pelz, that means either I miss a lot of putts to the right, or read my break a little more left than reality as a subconscious compensation. Probably a mix of both. Frankly for a 17 handicapper, 1 degree is decent: you can still catch the lip on a 10 foot putt with a 1 degree push (insert high school trigonometry). The bigger thing the stats showed was that my pace was all over the place. Median was 1710 (mm/sec) for the 15 foot putt, but I was very inconsistent: anywhere from 1500 to 1900. and the results showed it: several putts left short, others long. This was after 30 minutes of warm up on their indoor green. Ryan fixed my pace in his first attempt: adding a 300g weight to the head end of the club, and suddenly I was stroking everything at a very consistent pace. The average was 1678, so almost the same as before, but the variance was tiny. Showed up in the putts as well as the stats. Damn near magic. Also really tightened up the impact dots on the club face. Before: After: Before: After: Aim was less magical. We went through about 15 variants over 45 minutes. He was trying to trick my brain into aiming 2.4 degrees closed, which if I used my existing path, would end up perfect. However somewhere around the 2 degrees closed mark, something subconscious would kick in and my path would change. Interesting was: the shape of my path was nearly identical, but at some point the closed setup would trick me into starting that path outside, instead of down the line, undoing the gain. In the end, we got it to around 1.9 degrees closed, with an ultimate effect of 0.5 degrees open at impact. Before: After: Then the hardest part: waiting for my putter to arrive, and then waiting for our Canadian snow to melt. Fast forward 10 months: how did the putter perform? I loved it from day one, but would it make a numerical difference in my scores? Here's the cool part: I play in a Sunday Morning Golf League at the local muni. It's a social league, with handicaps ranging between 5-25, but we take the rules seriously, and of note: we've kept per-hole stats for every player going back for 25 years. That includes strokes and # of putts for every single hole. I bought my Craz-E in 2004, and used it every year since. The entire 2015 season was with the Edel: SeasonAvg Putts / roundLeague Ranking - PuttsAvg 3 putts / roundLeague Ranking - 3 PuttsAvg Gross200432.898 / 112.2210 / 1198.17200532.158 / 111.778 / 11101.31200632.607 / 111.808 / 1196.25200732.297 / 111.719 / 1199.12200832.125 / 121.416 / 1299.18200931.575 / 111.798 / 1193.43201032.507 / 111.175 / 1195.17201131.083 / 100.923 / 1088.38201232.338 / 121.567 / 1290.00201332.146 / 101.938 / 1088.21201432.175 / 121.836 / 1290.61201530.551 / 121.201 / 1287.95 Avg putts per round with the Craz-E over 11 years was 32.17, this season was 30.55...an improvement of 1.62 putts per round. I reduced my 3-putt average from 1.65 to 1.20 disasters per round. And far more importantly: I went from being middle of the pack in our league, to being the number one putter. woo! My league gross dropped from 90.61 in 2014 to 87.95...a one season improvement of 2.6 strokes. It looks like 1.6 of that is directly related to putting, but I believe (but can't prove) the rest comes from putting too. On a regular basis this year, if I found myself short sided or some other ugly situation, I would just gouge the ball out to the fat part of the green and be ultra confident I could two putt from anywhere. In the past I would try to get too fancy from bad spots trying to get it close, and end up double-chipping or worse. Good putting breeds confidence. I love my Edel putter, and I'm seriously considering picking up an Edel wedge set this winter. Appendix: If you look, I also had a good putting year in 2011. That's actually an interesting comparison. That was the year I took an excellent 10-week short game + putting clinic at Whistle Bear golf club, and practised like crazy. Obviously it made a big impact that year, but I stopped practising and lost my sharpness. This year I had a lot of good intentions for regular practise, but it never happened. -
Mostly pictures... I thought it would be interesting to show you where the putter started and how it ended up. It obviously started from the "fitting cart" we all have to work with, and then the later shots show you how the putter looks when it comes from Texas. I aimed everything really well, but if I tended to aim to one side of the cup it was typically left a little. A little more offset (S2 hosel) and lines on the top rather than in the back of the head fixed things for me really well. Before: After: I got the Vari-Weight putter so my putter weights are interchangeable. On slower greens I can put in lighter weights and vice versa. They're a snap to pop in and out. The putter weighs exactly what I need (with the middle weights - 370/60) and feels great. The Pixl insert reduces the variance in ball speed from mis-hit putts so the ball will still roll out the same distance. The sound and feel are great .
