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  1. Went to a Cleveland/Srixon demo day today and got to hit these. Came away really impressed with the entire lineup. Really gorgeous clubs. The Z785 is their player's iron offering. It's a cavity-back club but with a lot of the mass behind the sweetspot kind of like the Mizuno SC18 or the Titleist AP2. Has a very clean look at address with not too much offset and the modern thin topline (if you've played real butter knives you know what I mean). Felt really good hitting it. It's slightly more forgiving than my MP4s but still demands a pretty good swing. The Z585 is more of a player's game improvement club. Cavity-back with an undercut channel behind the perimeter of the face to allow for more aggressive weight distribution and face flex. I was really impressed with these irons. Looked very similar to the Z785s at address. If I was handed the club blind, I wouldn't be able to pick out which was which. These were really easy to hit and definitely more forgiving than the Z785s. Good shots with both sets were about the same, but the mishits with the Z585s launched higher and carried farther than the Z785s so I lost less distance. Feel was a little more hollow, but that's to be expected from this type of clubhead. Feedback was still good though and I could tell when I toed it. No issues working the flight with these irons, either. High, low, draw, fade. No problem at all. Both sets of irons come with their Tour VT Sole which is a V-sole that gives the irons more bounce. I didn't get to hit them off the turf, unfortunately, but I liked the idea of them and it's safe to assume that it would help me. If I was going to get a set, I'd probably do a combo of the two, going Z585 5-7 and Z785 8-PW. The U85 driving irons also really impressed me. They're a little clunky looking, but only because it looks like a fat iron. It has a much smaller head than a hybrid. I've been struggling with my hybrids lately, but even before that I had a tendency to hook them, so I hit the U85 2i and the new H85 2h side by side to compare. I still hooked the crap out of the hybrid, but the driving iron was much better for me. I also compared the U85 4i with the Z585 4i and the U85 was much easier to launch in the air and more forgiving. I gave the new drivers a look, too, since the rep said they're much improved this year. I told him my driver swing is all out of whack and I hit them like crap so I didn't get a good assessment on them. I also hit the Cleveland CBX and RTX wedges in the 50° and 54°. Didn't like the CBX at all and hit the ball way too high on full swings with it. I didn't think I needed a cavity back wedge and I was right. I wasn't looking to buy new irons but these would be at the top of my list. I liked the way they looked before I tried them and now I really like the way they hit.
  2. billchao

    Cabin Fever and eBay

    I find myself looking at irons on eBay lately. It's a bad habit of mine. A few winters ago, I bought a set of vintage Hogans. They were kind of fun to kick around with for a bit. I played close to half that season with them even though they were way too much (or is it too little?) club for me. I still practice with them, but they're mostly collecting dust - some in the basement, some in the garage, and I have one (now two, actually) in the coat closet. Now I'm looking at Mizunos. Modern, though: MP 4s and MP 64s. Figured they're more playable than the Hogans, not that I'm in the market for new irons. Just kind of want them. I sold a set of Mizunos a number of years ago and I want another. I should actually get a new set of wedges if I'm going to buy new clubs, but another set of blades seems so much more satisfying for some reason. Winter needs to be over so I can go play and stop looking at stuff I don't need.
  3. I was recently fitted for a new set of Ping i500 irons. I was playing an older set of Mizuno JPX 800 pros. After a few hours on the range, it didn’t look like the new irons were going longer. The lofts on the i500 are about 2 degrees less than my mizuno (long to mid iron, pw and gw are the same) My 7-iron is about a 170 yard club, but I seem to be about 5-10 yards shorter with the new irons. During the fitting, I went thru about 4 different shafts before I got something that gave me good numbers in the Trackman. Does anyone have any experience in this area? I know the i500 has been promoted as being longer, so I wasn’t expecting less distance.
  4. From time to time, the topic of modern irons and jacked up lofts comes up and a common criticism is that individual irons hitting farther creates wider gaps at the scoring end of the bag. I thought about this a little bit and I realized, as I'm getting better at the game, I almost never hit a full swing on an approach shorter than 150 yards. I've always liked the partial wedge yardage system and this year I finally mapped mine, but I also find myself using the knockdown or 3/4 swing approach to hitting greens with short irons more and more. As a result, even though my full swing yardage gaps are wider towards that end of the bag than they would be with "traditional" (I use the quotation marks there because I've been using a set of modern blades which are closer to traditional lofts) irons, I'm not actually losing anything in terms of having options for specific yardages. In fact, I have far more options available to me inside 150 than I do outside of it. This made me think a bit about the rest of the bag. I like my blades, but they're about half a club shorter than my GI irons and as long as I don't have issues with holding greens, I want those 5-7 extra yards. That can't hurt my game at all. It makes me want to go back to "jacked up" GI irons for my next set. Yes, irons going farther forces you to carry more wedges, but I like carrying 3 or 4 wedges and I like how it has forced me to learn different shots for different situations. I can understand how some people would be unhappy that their full swing gaps are wider where it counts the most, but I feel that forcing yourself into only full swing options kind of holds you back. Thoughts?
  5. Ok I’m am convinced that getting fit for the correct clubs can help your game but until now I never considered the possibility that playing the wrong clubs can hinder your performance to a point where it really damages your whole game. I recently went and had a driver fitting. Before starting I was given a 7 iron to warm up with. After a dozen hits I had an average swing speed of 98mph with the 7 iron. Now 12 months ago when I got serious about golf I brought a secondhand set of cobra baffled irons with regular flex shafts. They are nice and easy to hit but as the year has gone on my consistency on the course had not improved and I am still only hitting about 30% fairways even though I only use irons. So I realise and have also been told by a couple of pros that these irons are not designed for me but for much lower swing speeds but not until the last week have a started to think that they may be the cause of my inconsistency. Has anybody else who had similar experience to me I would be great to hear from. I am really starting to loose confidence in my game.
  6. So I am 21 years old, and never had a set of my own clubs, I’ve always used clubs that have been passed download. Currently I am using a set of Ping Eyes from 82 and a TaylorMade Ti Bubble driver from 96. What clubs should I look at? I’m not very good, but when I make solid contact I can carry the ball well, so I would like something that’s pretty forgiving. I’ve been thinking 5-Pw, maybe a Gw, 3 wood and 5 wood, and a driver. Please tell me what to look for and what to avoid, I’m dealing with about a $1200 budget. Any advice would be great
  7. Hey all! So, I’m convinced that I’m in need of new (stiffer) shafts in my irons. This is based on a few data points: 1) I have a two way miss that I am having great difficulty correcting. Either a push straight right, or a hard overdraw/hook. I read that some who have too-flexible/light shafts can have this miss pattern. Seems to fit my situation. If I S L O W my swing down, I can straighten it a bit, but it feels unnatural, like I’m putting the brakes on my swing. I’d rather swing full. I feel like I’m walking on a razor with the ‘right’ speed, and I’m thinking it would help to have something else that I can’t overpower so easily, and so I can commit to each shot. Basically, 2 out of 10 shots go straightish. 4 go left, 4 go right. I do not have a problem with contact anymore. I get it ‘up’ plenty easily, and don’t hit it excessively fat or thin very often these days. (Just a little fat/thin, haha). About 8-10 times or more per round I hear myself say ‘yeah I hit it good, it just went way left/right!’ 2) I’m 6’2 with about an 88mph 6i swing speed. Carry it about 175 or so. Distance is not my problem. Even losing just a bit would be OK if I start hitting it a good deal straighter. 3) I’m playing stock Ping AWT R-flex shafts in my G15’s. These shafts weigh 99g. Pretty light compared to almost any Stiff flex shaft out there. The ball launches high, and I do like that. But if something stiffer would drop the flight a bit, but keep me straighter... I’m interested. When I bought the irons new, my swing was (more) crap, and I couldn’t generate too much clubhead speed. The salesman/fitter said I could go with Stiff graphite shafts, but since the R’s were steel, they would play ‘stiff enough’, anyway. Probably/possibly true back then (2012), definitley not the case now. So... I have tried the online fitting sites from True Temper and KBS, and though I can play with the answers to the questions a bit, I get vaguely consistent results. Normally I’m guided toward KBS Tour S, KBS Tour V (Stiff), KBS C-Taper Lite, or Project X 6.0/5.5’s. The problem is, I have no idea what each of these shafts would really do for me. My number one goal is to significantly straighten my ballflight and tighten my dispersion. Secondly, I would like to keep as much distance as possible. Trajectory is of less importance to me, but medium to high sounds good. Of course the best thing to do would be to go get fitted for shafts. I could answer all my questions in an hour or two. Unfortunately, where I live now, (Japan) there are not any places that I know of to go get fit. Plus the language barrier could be an issue. Does anyone have any specific recommendations or experiences on any of the shafts I mentioned, or any others that you know to be similar, or that may help me achieve my goals? Especially interested if your numbers are similar to mine. Most of the shafts I listed are about 110g in weight. Seems like 10g up won’t throw me off too much. Does that sound reasonable? If I can, I will figure out how to get fit here in Japan, but I am also browsing eBay for shaft sets and have come close to pulling the trigger a couple of times. I just want to avoid any extremely costly mistakes, if possible. Thank you for reading my novel, and I appreciate any feedback. I do have a ‘my swing’ thread if seeing me swing my 6i would be helpful.
  8. Interesting. A foam-filled cavity-back from PING? Wonder if PXG will sue them too.
  9. My shoulder isn't 100% and it's going to rain, but f*** it I'm going golfing tomorrow.

    1. nevets88

      nevets88

      Go for it!

  10. I bought a set of these just for the heck of it on eBay about a year ago, and I have no idea what they are. Looking them up online I can't find a picture or anything about them. Anyone what what they are or when they or made?
  11. Hi All, I’m looking to purchase irons, wedges, drivers and looking for recommendations. My selection is very limited because I am a lefty/female with a swing speed that averages around 65. I am presently using Callaway’s Strata set and would like to upgrade. Can any of you assist me with recommendations? Thanks!
  12. David Hasselhoff

    Help choosing irons

    I know I should get fitted, but I have a toddler, live a couple hours from a city, and don’t get much time to myself. So eventually I’d like to do that, but I’m pretty tempted to just order a new set of irons. I went to the range today and tried my friends clubs (strata), and they felt amazing compared to my 90s callaways. I’ve been looking at some taylormade sets online but I’m not too sure what to look for. Anyway, I am in my early thirties, swing too hard, and on a good day am a bogey golfer. Would anyone be willing to point me in the right direction? At this rate I am pretty sure anything I order would feel better than my current clubs. Thanks in advance for any help.
  13. JonnyFlyBy

    Merit golf clubs

    I just received these clubs for a Christmas gift and I can't find any information about them. I know that Merit is no longer in busniss but not much else. The club set is single length, 2 tru pw, sw and 60. Anyone know age, retail cost when new, today's value, any history? Thanks for anything you might have.
  14. Hi all, i have only ever had one set of clubs, given to me by my father. They were given to him as a second hand set 35+ years ago. i was playing a corporate day recently and the resident American golf pro got far too excited by my irons (I am in New Zealand) and I was wondering if anyone could tell me how old they are? I have checked the Google but alas, no help... they are Slazenger Ben Hogan Power Thrust irons (full set). I haven’t been able to find any others with the words Ben Hogan in non-italicised text but Power Thruat in italics. any hints or ideas appreciated. Picture below
  15. My first post and looking for some feedback on choosing a set of irons. I took up golf again a year ago at the age of 60, after a 35 year lay off. I am very slight, swing speed 95mph and my handicap is 17 but that will improve when I fix my short game (40 putts per round). Currently using Ping s58 with regular graphite shafts. I know they are not GI but I find them easy to use, longer and mishits are less painful than any other club I have tried. I have tried Ping eye 2 and eye 2+ with stiff steel shafts but timing seemed a lot more difficult. I like the s58 but there is no sand or lob wedge. I tried a g15 7iron and loved it but then there is no 2 or 3 iron (home town is called the windy city). Questions: Would I give up distance moving from s58 to say G20? Graphite shaft should be less tiring and less jarring on hands that are starting to get a bit arthritic? Graphite shaft might give me give me a little more distance over a steel shaft? Any idea how much on a 27 degree 5 iron? Seems to me I should just stick with my s58? Thanks
  16. I've heard a lot about the Aerotech Steelfiber shafts, and got to hit a few shots with SF here and there. Not all golf shops carry them for fittings. Recently, a golf shop let me hit some used Ping i200 irons with SF 95 in S.flex. The Pings felt nice and smooth with the SFs. The Ping 7i with SF only carried about 135 yds., though, on most solid shots. (I have hit the Ping i200 with AWT 2.0/R and gotten closer to 145 yds.) My current 7i carries about 145 yds. with the NS Pro.With my 7i and Driver data, the SF charts recommend me more for SF.80, but I worry the shaft might feel feathery.So, what are the fine points on the SF line? An SF.95 S.flex, even softstepped, might be a bit much. Is SF.95 R.flex iffy, or maybe R.flex soft-stepped? Any advice on how the ball flies, are the SFs stiffer to flex, anything that might help. @boogielicious, @DocPartyany thoughts?
  17. Eight irons, with KBS Tour C-Taper Lite R-flex shafts (105 gr.); standard length (5 iron =38.75”) and lie angle; Golf Pride Tour Velvet midsize grips. Clubs in excellent condition, used for nine rounds of golf and some practice. Shafts too long for me. Price: $450; free shipping within CONUS.
  18. Hey guys, Ive been thinking about getting some new irons. I’m an 8 handicap. Right now I am playing Taylormade RSI TP irons. Should I stay with players irons or go back to game improvement irons? I like the feed back of players irons. But could I also benefit from game improvement irons? Just asking to see what people have to say.
  19. I have a habit of rotating my fairway woods. Once I throw down the bucks for a driver, it stays put for at least 5 years. My irons (MP-14), over 20 years now. My putter changed from a Ping B-60 (20 years) to an Odyssey Marksman (past 10 years). Still have the B-60. My wedge is Cleveland Tour Action 56 deg that I've had for over 30 years. I've killed a rattlesnake with it. The fairway woods are like old girlfriends, you think about them once in a while, but the memory fades. There is always that one that seem to stick in your mind the longest. Mine was a Ping ISI 3- wood with a regular flex steel shaft. So I searched and searched without my wife knowing, and set a date ( 1 week shipping) to get reacquainted with my old friend:) Diablo move over..... Here's a picture. After all these years, I don't look that good either.
  20. Hi guys and gals! As of recently, I am in the market for a new set of irons and am looking for your help. In the past I have been hitting Callaway's XR irons that provide a lot of forgiveness but am now looking to make the transition to a club with a little less forgiveness and more precision. I am currently an 8 handicap. Any thoughts?
  21. I was fitted for G400 irons, lie, length, shaft, grip. An item that was left open was whether to have the irons set to "strong". Apparently this yields more distance and less loft. I already hit VERY high irons (old Titleist DCI's) and receive a boat load of verbal abuse about nose bleeds and seeding clouds. I play to about a 6. Nevertheless, is there a downside to going "strong" if there really isn't a quest for more height? Any opinions appreciated... Thanks !
  22. Buckeyelakesclub

    Iron Upgrade Advice

    Hey Guys, I'm new to the forums, but have been reading for years. I really appreaciate all of the commentary and opinions on this site! I've been playing golf my whole life, nothing competitive, but I'm a decent weekend hack! (Currently a 6.7 index). I've been playing a set of titlleist 690cb irons since I was fitted new in 2004. They have the rifle 6.5 shafts which are really heavy. When I strike them well, they still go where I want them and they feel like butter, but the miss hits are horrible! For reference, my 8 iron goes 165 and my 5 iron is 200 yards. Is it time to upgrade? I'm not as strong as I once was, and my swing speed is slower as well. Would i benefit from new technology and lighter shafts? I really don't want to sacrifice distance, which I think comes from the rifle shafts, but I'm not sure.. Please help! Steve
  23. Hello, everyone. So, after over a decade I finally decided to buy new irons rather than continue to use the box set I bought from Sports Authority (are they still in business?). The new irons are scheduled to come in in about a week and a half and I had a couple of questions I was hoping people might be able to help me out with. 1) When I get the irons, is there anything I should do with them before I use them to practice or play? 2) Is there anything I can or should do to, for lack of a better phrase, keep them looking pretty and shiny? Thanks for any advice!
  24. Seems like TaylorMade's answer to the PXG irons. From TaylorMade: TaylorMade Golf, the industry leader in iron technology and innovation, announced today the expansion of its globally successful P700-series iron lineup with the addition of the P790 irons, a forged players distance iron engineered with new SpeedFoam Technology for golfers seeking the forged look and feel of a players iron with increased distance, forgiveness and playability. With P790, TaylorMade’s engineers have answered the challenge of creating a forged iron that delivers remarkable distance and playability combined with remarkable feel in a medium-compact head design with a thinner topline and reduced offset preferred by discerning players. This was accomplished by incorporating technologies that improve on feel, sound and consistency while delivering significant distance. The P790 features a soft, 8620 carbon steel body combined with a high-strength forged 4140 carbon steel WrapFace in a hollow body design. The P790’s hollow cavity incorporates SpeedFoam Technology, a new proprietary construction which serves a dual purpose of generating ball speed as well as the management of sound and feel. Injected into the clubhead, SpeedFoam provides the face support and damping properties that make the performance of the P790 unlike any other iron in the TaylorMade family. The incorporation of the WrapFace construction creates a cut-thru Speed Pocket on the sole with extreme flexibility in the lower part of the clubface; it’s this flexibility which creates greater forgiveness and consistency than is typically seen in a distance iron design. The P790 also features an ultra-thin 1.75mm face thickness with re-engineered Inverted Cone Technology optimized for the slightly smaller face area. Whereas the company’s previous ICT which had a larger, heavier profile, the new, smaller Inverted Cone allows for reduced face thickness at the edges of the face, thus increasing flexibility from heel to toe and low on the clubface, resulting in more ball speed across the entire face. For forgiveness and playability, P790 irons feature strategically placed internal metal-injection-molded (MIM) tungsten weighting for precise CG placement and higher moment of inertia (MOI). Pricing and Availability Available at retail on September 15 (U.S. & Canada) & September 29 (globally), P790 irons will be offered in 3-PW, AW equipped with True Temper’s Dynamic Gold 105 steel shafts ($1,299) or UST Mamiya’s Recoil 760/780 ES SmacWrap graphite shafts ($1,499) with Golf Pride Tour Velvet 360 grips. Numerous other custom shaft options are also available.
  25. I have the taylormade rocketballz (RBZ) irons. I have had them for almost 5 years and I'm ready to upgrade so I need some advice. I'm around 12 handicap. Short game is what kills me. My ball striking isn't the best and by this I mean I don't think I'm ready for blades. I'm also not wanting to drop a fortune on a brand new set. So I need some advice for a new set. I don't want anything to bulky. I like the look of a thin iron. Some that I have been eyeing: rsi1 ap1 jpx850 any others to consider please let me know! thanks
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