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Handicap Index

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  1. Discuss "Out of Time" by Bill Yates here. I feel like I'm going to have to re-read it. I feel like I missed out on a bunch of what I should have taken away from the book. Off the top of my head: There are five causes of slow play (I'll use that word, even though 4:30 can feel like better pacing and flow than a 4:00 round) Golfers are just one of the five reasons. Par five followed by a par three is bad, especially in the first four holes. Don't let golfers hit when the fairway is clear or earlier than their tee time slot. Maintenance, pro shop employees, etc. are responsible for pacing too. Hole locations and/or hazards and other stuff can affect how quickly people play a hole, and sometimes opposite of what you might think. Signage is important. "Keeping up with the group ahead" is bad (but I'm not sure why - are they supposed to slow down on purpose?) A twosome on a crowded course of foursomes is bad. The Brits don't play faster than Americans. That's all I can remember. I plan to loan my copy to the golf course I frequent most often, and I asked GoodReads to add it to their library.
  2. PGA Tour to create list focusing on slowest players for pace-of play-improvement, according to sources - Golf Digest The system goes into effect after the Masters in 2020.
  3. I've heard this is a good video. I'll watch it after I post the video.
  4. I watched Zach Johnson yesterday taking an ungodly amount of time over an 8 footer. I thought to myself, if anyone in my 4some did that I'd wrap a f***in' club around his neck. So yes, the pros have slowed to a crawl these days. At the same time, I've never seen any professional just step up to the ball and strike it as many amateur players do. Of course there's a happy medium but sometimes when I play with high handicappers, it disappoints me that they're so self conscious that they rush their shots to get out of everyone's way. Hey man, you paid your greens fees or membership fee so you deserve a little time to settle into your shots. Were were all at your level at some point. I'm definitely not a slow player because I play ready golf but I also play my best when I don't rush things.
  5. From here, comes this: If 6.39 is the average, and that average includes "up to 25 seconds," then there may have been a lot of players below that average, which while statistically significant, doesn't seem to be all that bad. I mean, if four players take an extra 15 seconds on a green in total, that's only 4.5 minutes per round. That is a puzzling one and they don't give much data on it. I generally don't enjoy courses with slow greens. So it increases round times but not substantially, nor even as much as they had guessed/hypothesized. The study is overall pretty weak in the sense that we don't know what the average greens are like, or anything - were we talking about massively undulated greens (where you'd want to keep them at slower speeds), or were these relatively flat greens that could take a little speed and still be very playable? This doesn't tell us much, but it's one of the few non-broken images in the "study": I also wonder if their play is from a regular group of players. If the greens normally stimp at 9, then the players may be surprised to show up and find their greens stimping at 10 or 11, and may putt badly and thus take more time throughout the entire round because it's simply not what they're used to. Players get used to how their course plays, and if they keep smashing the ball by the hole in the first few holes, they're gonna freak out and play slower, and not really get a good feel for the speed most of the day.
  6. I voted "Yes." In the U.S., the handicap system "encourages" (i.e. requires) that we play against the course and post every score. Currently, in the UK and most of Europe, they don't post to GHIN (obviously, or an equivalent, which is what I am saying here), and so they play against each other. If they're out of a hole, they pick up, because they don't need to post a score. P.S. The World Handicap topic is here:
  7. Ugh. Then he brags about being put on the clock only a few times. This may explain a bit of why I never really felt like I was a Jason Day fan. P.S. As one commenter on Twitter said… "Wait, that was Jason Day playing fast?"
  8. Ok lately slow play and bad etiquette has been making me angry and depressed at my once great golf club to the point I may not pay to be a member any more. People are so ignorant and arrogant, they never ring bells to let you know its safe to hit on blind shots even though they see us on the tee box. The worst thing is I can never practice by myself or play golf with my friend as a two ball. We/I always get stuck behind a 4 ball of old guys that never let us through. They hack and hack and time waste so much its unbelievable. Once I got so mad I shouted fore to get a group that skipped in front of us out of the way to let us hit and of course we get up and it is the pro playing in the four ball saying it was rude etc etc and he would have let us through, yea right, the time was when we were on the tee box with you!. I am just so sick of this and do not know what to do? Today I was stuck behind a 4 ball of old hacking men, with no one in front of them, for the 4th, 5th, 6,th par 3, 7th and 8th when I eventually walked off because they never let me through. What is there to do about this?
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