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When I first started playing I was taught what "athletic" posture was in the golf set-up. Straight back, stick the butt out and have the chin up. Similar to what this article and video recommend. Posture Article Quote: Good posture can be attained by bending your knees so they cover up your shoelaces. Then you must also bend from the hips at the same time. Sticking your butt out while keeping your back straight is the proper way to bend correctly from your hips. Adam Scott was said to have the most athletic posture and that having the chin up allowed the shoulders to turn. I'm going to share why I feel that information is wrong and can be harmful to your body. According to this Tilteist Performance Institute(TPI) Article Quote: Lower back pain is one of the most common complaints of all golfers. This is usually due to the high velocity rotary forces that are applied upon the lumbar spine during the golf swing. Some golfers actually put themselves into this position on purpose because they heard it was good to stick their butt out at set up. Unfortunately, if you arch your back to stick your butt out at set up, you are also putting your lower back in jeopardy of being injured. The Lower Crossed Syndrome / “S-Posture”: One of the most clinically relevant patterns of muscle dysfunction is a lower crossed syndrome. Simply stated, the lower crossed syndrome is a grouping of weak muscles combined with overactive or tight muscles, that create a predictable movement pattern in the lower back that can lead to injury. S- Posture would be the pic of me on the left. “S” posture is caused by a player creating too much arch in their lower back. We’ve all been told to stick our butt out at address, yet when over done, it impinges the spine and the body’s ability to rotate. Feeling some posterior pelvic tilt and rounding my shoulders inward. I can view the ball out of my central vision in the right pic. Weight is also balanced, too much into my heels in the left pic. As I said I'm feeling posterior tilt, in reality I am closer to anterior but adding posterior. By tucking my tailbone under me, posterior, I place the hips in the best position to release the flexion of my right hip during the backswing, not to mention how much easier this position is on the lower back. The shoulders feeling rounded, inward and down, allows the chin to be down, which allows for the ball to be seen with central vision. The eyes which are located in the head are what need to be stable or centrally foviated on the object to maintain the balance centers located in the eyes, ears, and muscular system. When we are looking at the golf ball, and our head is down, we are able to see the golf ball out of the middle of our eye sockets and in the center of our vision, called "foveal vision". When an object is in foveal vision, we are able to make more detailed processing of the image (being golf ball and surroundings) during the golf swing. If the eyes are being forced to strain within the eye socket and keep relocating the golf ball because vision is temporarily lost from one eye, this is called "saccadic eye movement" and is slower and less detailed processing of sensory input from the eyes to the brain. If we lose the ability for depth perception, which can cause compensations and make it difficult for our brain to calculate where we are relative to the ball. This could cause the golfer to have to adjust to see the golf ball out of both eyes and make the fastest adjustments during the course of the golf swing. Adam Scott has made some changes the past couple years. So even though there may instruction that advocates what Adam was doing in 2002, it's hard to find examples of this kind of address position from the best players. Especially players from Hogan, Palmer, Nicklaus years. TPI would call a Hogan or a Palmer address a "C" posture. I will say that today's players have the chest "taller" than players in the past but still do the neck tilt piece well. More of a neutral posture between the C and S postures. I like the way the classic guys did it, I think it just looks much better and sets them up to perform a very dynamic motion. A lot of address postures to me look too static. Check out these pics And a few good videos to share From Martin Hall's show Couple posture drills - Place your heels 2-4 inches from a wall or stick - Stand up straight, bend from the hips and add knee flex until..... - ....y our butt touches the wall. - Then soften the upper back and lower the arms Here's a feel/visual/drill for those that struggle with an upper back that is too upright. Balance a cup of water on top of your neck/cervical spine. If you can't do it, then your eyes are looking up too much and/or you're not "slouched" enough.
I've been Playing Golf for: 20 years My current handicap index or average score is: bogey golfer My typical ball flight is: range: straight and long, course: sporadic The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: inexplicable shanks in general I first started chipping balls around a baseball field at the age of 12. Played leisurely through middle school and high school, mostly summers with friends. Never took the game seriously. Never had a lesson, never even watched a lesson, or so much as had another good golfer check me out and give me pointers. Dropped the clubs after high school, attempted to pick them back up again several times as an adult but life always got in the way. At age 32, I'm finally in a place now where I can work on my game and play regularly. I have no idea what comprises my swing or where it came from. I just swing how I feel. I don't know what's good or bad about it. This is the first time I've ever looked at video of myself. I would say that my posture looks pretty terrible. My arms could be straighter. Not sure really. In these videos, I'm using a 3 hybrid. I'm hitting it long enough (200+ yards carry) and straight fairly comfortably. 3 hybrid is my easiest club by a mile, though no issues with any of my clubs on the range except the driver. On the course, though, I shank it constantly and I'm not sure why. It feels like there's no rhyme or reason to my ball striking, which is frustrating because I feel in control while practicing (after a few minutes of warm-up). These videos were also taken the same day I experienced a revelation in my game. I just purchased a Nike Vapor Fly Pro with adjustable loft. I set it on 8.5° just as an experiment. I realize now that I've been hitting the wrong loft my whole life (normally 10.5° which I chose because...I thought the shittier a golfer you were, the higher loft you should have for a driver). I was hitting the best drives of my life at 8.5 today. It's the biggest swing breakthrough I've had as a golfer, though we'll see what happens when I try it on the course. I'm not sure if this is the kind of forum where people flame each other or provide respectful criticism, but either way I'm very happy to read your comments. Finally ready to eat my humble pie and learn something. Videos: [ ]
I know we've been talking lately about how setup is "automatic" (or it's not ), but I must say… I fix a lot of setup positions. I don't save out the images from all of my lessons. In fact, only a small percentage of the time do I feel I've done something I want to CC to myself for various reasons. But of those lessons, well, take a look: I'll often tell students: They'll answer "none" or "hardly any" or something like that, and I'll say "Great, you're right! You just have to remember to do it, and know how to do it." I fix a LOT of setup issues.