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  1. I like this game. Essentially: You start with six balls. You start from three feet. You putt from three feet until you make a putt. If you make the putt, you take that ball and all remaining balls back three feet. If you miss, that ball or "life" is lost. Your "score" is the farthest distance at which you make a putt. So for example: Make from 3'. Six balls remain. Make from 6'. Six balls remain. Miss, miss, make from 9'. Four balls remain. Two lives lost. Miss, make from 12'. Three balls remain, one life lost
  2. Distance control is an "athletic" thing for most golfers. Unless you're Bryson DeChambeau, who knows that a 12" backstroke makes the ball go 15.739 feet (or whatever), players tend to putt best when they tap into their athleticism. That's why studies will point out how golfers putting from 25+ feet with their eyes looking at the hole often have better distance control (even though they slightly mishit some putts) than golfers looking down at the ball. Combine both: do what Tiger Woods learned to do from his dad. When taking his last look at the hole, he'd take a mental "snapshot" - a
  3. I was tempted to post "I doubt it," but I have this blog to use, so I'll use it for a quick discussion of this. I've taught a few thousand people to putt. I've never seen someone with their finger down the shaft who I would consider a "good" putter. More often - far, far more often - those with their finger down the shaft have distance control issues. The pressure they apply with that finger leads to added loft and wrist flipping, while many good putting strokes have de-lofted putters (4° turned down to 1°) and lead wrists that are slightly more in flexion than they were at setup. I
  4. I've always been frustrated by how badly I putt on these surfaces. I'm sure these guys who win these tournaments are good at what they do, but it sure seems to take a different set of skills than putting on a golf course. Off the top of my head, some of the differences that throw me off in mini-golf: uneven carpets, less uniform than golf greens (for example, mini-golfers wouldn't have a need for Aimpoint, is my guess!) the stupid little volcano effect that seems to be around many holes- throwing your ball off line if it is going too slow as it nears the hole the need
  5. Golf Swing Analyzer - Golf Swing Sensor | Blast Motion Blast Motion Golf: The industry's best golf swing analyzer app and golf swing sensor. Capture your golf swing and stroke. Instantly see swing metrics & swing analysis on your phone so that you can make... At the time of this writing, these are on sale for 50% off. They have a subscription available, too, but you don't need that for anything I'm going to talk about today: using the Blast Motion for putting practice/improvement. What's It Do? Look, I'll keep this simple: the Blast is a little sensor t
  6. So at the event at Kapalua, announcers pointed out what they called an effect of grain on a putt by Ryan Moore (gif below) where the trajectory of a left-to-right putt seems to change in a slight double-break. Objections were raised that studies of grain effects indicated they were minimal...up to 2 inches on a 20' putt. Not sure if that was for mostly level or appreciable slope. This jibes with what I recall about grain from one of the original empirical looks at grain in Vector Putting (since superseded / updated by AimPoint)...that it was relatively a small contribution vs. slope.
  7. Here are two graphics showing perhaps a five-foot putt. In the green graphic, the player is playing to a spot about 1" outside the hole and playing about 3.5" of break with a speed that rolls the ball about a 1 foot past the hole. In the red graphic, the player is playing to a spot about half a ball inside the right edge of the cup (about 1" of break) with a speed that rolls the ball about 4 feet past the hole. In both cases, you're aiming at a SPOT, a precise, no-size point. The triangles are about the same width as the effective capture speed of the hole given the speed, so yo
  8. Here are three graphs of putting strokes. The s axis is "speed" and the "t" axis is time. We'll take a look at each of these in a moment, but consider first how putting can behave like a pendulum. In virtually all good putting strokes, the ball is hit with a slight positive angle of attack (AoA) - about 2-3° or so. This positive AoA helps minimize backspin, produce no spin, or even to produce a tiny bit of forward spin if the dynamic loft is 1-2°. But the point is: the ball is struck while the putter head is ascending, or after low point . If you were to swing a pendulum
  9. Hi, recently I've played two rounds on normal greens (as good as they get where I live) and two on slow greens (just topdressed and aereated). On the two rounds on "good" greens, I putted terribly. 35 putts and 3-putts each of the rounds. Both length and direction were off. On the "bad" greens, I had 29-30 putts and no 3-putts. Now, is this just me or a "law of nature"?
  10. Hi! I just bought the Pelz Tutor for putting practice. Aside from what it's "meant to do", my big revelation was that I was not standing with my eyes over the ball. There are two lines on right and left side of the ball position (looking from behind). and I wasn't seeing the right one completely. I was standing too far from the ball, if one is supposed to stand with the eyes over the ball. Then, I started thinking. Do all good putters stand right over the ball? How about forum members? Would be interesting to get some opinions!
  11. Amazing video shows the difference between good and bad putts Ever wondered what a bad putt looks like in slow-motion? As you can see here thanks to this slow-motion video, it's... I’ve often seen skidding putts due to playing in the early morning dew. Many of them came from my old putter This is actually something I learned from the instructor who did my Edel fitting. He had a felt mat I putt from that would show whether the ball rolled or skidded. He actually recorded my old putter hitting the ball like this and I delivered so much loft to the ball that it actually s
  12. You may recall hearing Dave Pelz tell you that the optimal distance a putt has to roll past the hole is 17 inches. How big might you guess the hole is at 17 inches? 4 inches wide? 3 ½? What if I told you that the hole, at 17 inches, was only about 2¼ inches wide? What? Am I crazy? No - it's just math. Consider a well cut hole, and what's required for the putt to go in. For a putt to be holed, it has to have enough time for the ball - 1.68 inches in diameter - to fall half that distance, or 0.84 inches, or more. Gravity is a constant force (9.8 m/s 2 ) and 0.84 inches is a
  13. Hi Guys, I'm fairly new to this website. I wanted to join to begin a forum on Indoor Putting Greens. I know most of us reside in the cold states where we can only sit and dream about golf. I grew tired of this routine of playing golf and finding my game by the time it was too late and the leaves began to fall and soon enough the snow-birds were snow-birding again.... lol. Anyways, I'm an avid golfer, a golf junkie, a golf pyscho, a serial golfer... whatever it is I'm just obsessed with the game. I love it, like all of us do on this site. I've got 3 kids, so this project was a MUST DO. I m
  14. I left an easy putt on the green this past Sunday, and it bothered me enough that I am still thinking about it the next day. It was under two feet, the result of a long putt on the previous stroke, with a bit of a break in it. I was the last to putt and the other guys were already walking off the green. I did not want to hold the party up, and it was so short that I skipped the entire part of investigating, analyzing, and then executing the plan. Ya know...golf. So I hit it straight and it lipped out due to the break. Thing is, I do that often. And I am not the only one. I mostly golf wit
  15. I spent the better part of two days conducting this test last summer. I tested a few situations: In chart form: And for those who like the visuals… I used a PerfectPutter and positioned it far enough away that the ball wasn't bouncing at all but close enough that the ball wouldn't deviate too far from the intended line.1 I used Snell MTB Black balls. The flagsticks were standard Par-Aide fiberglass flagsticks. It wasn't windy, but there was often a little breeze.2 I tested on the flattest section of the greens I could find. The actual holes we
  16. A little help? I have heard a statistic over the years but never found a source: 85% of all missed putts are short. When I look at PGA stats, I see they track the number of putts, but not whether they were short (or broke below the hole) or long past the hole. Is anyone familiar with a study that has been done on this? Thanks
  17. Everyone has a different strategy and methods for all types of putts. I'm curious as to strategy on short, downhill breaking putts. Ben Crenshaw advised playing these type of putts, more off the toe, instead of the sweet spot. I have always used this method and it has worked pretty well. He said that a person tends to decelerate the club head on these types of putts and that he played the putt in this manner. Just wanted to see what everyone else thought about this subject.
  18. The chart, in larger form: I think two things: Though there's a definite trend, those are some pretty small numbers. What Dave said is important, I think: A 40+ year old on the PGA Tour has made his money, has a family, is content, etc. They're less motivated, they don't practice as often, and so on. P.S. I putt better now than ever.
  19. I prefer to see my players exhibit two pendulum-like things in their putting strokes: A backswing length and follow-through length that are about the same. A fairly standard rhythm or tempo, defined as either when you take the putter away to when you strike the ball, or the end points of your backswing and follow-through. Both of those traits are characteristics of a pendulum. The period is the same, and the swing lengths are the same (in a vacuum 😄). Find Your Tempo Everyone has a slightly different natural tempo. Some players prefer to have a slower putting stro
  20. https://ixiasports.com/products/true-pendulum-motion I wanted to take a long overdue moment to talk a little bit about one of the better putting training aids on the market today. Putting is, as you know, one of the areas of the game that have the least effect on your score, and yet… is so, so, so frustrating to a lot of people. Though the average person loses fewer strokes to putting than they might think, those with a glaring weakness can really pile up the lost strokes, becoming increasingly frustrated with each and every one. Now, long-time forum members know that putting is thre
  21. I know Putts/Round isn't a great stat, but how much better is Putts/GIR? On its own, it doesn't seem like it really amounts to much. If your first putt length tends to be higher, you're going to have a higher P/GIR than if it was shorter. You can't really tell by looking at it whether you need to work on your putting or you're just hitting the green too far away from the pin. I started thinking about this today and worked it out over my last 10 rounds, my P/GIR is 2.18 vs P/R of 1.92. I'm not sure that tells me much about anything. So what would be the point of tracking it, or w
  22. I've been thinking lately about the short game and putting, specifically proximity to the hole from around the green. I don't actually know how close I should be getting to the hole at my skill level. Game Golf tells me I'm 97% < 5 yards within 25 yards (I wish they would break this down more), but let's say I average 12' from the hole. A PGA Tour pro makes ~30% of those putts. A Tour-level putter I most certainly am not; I might make < 10% of my 12' putts. I'm not scrambling at the rate I should be and I don't know if the problem is with my short game or my putting. If I don't hit
  23. What are the general thoughts about Brooks Koepka's putting grip with the extended right pointer finger? After playing around with this over the past few days it is a change I'm actually really interested in making permanently. I often feel extreme disconnect between my hands and the club while putting and this is something that really unites the two for me.
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