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I typically look at the yardage and par. Anything 6700 to 7200 fits. If it's really, really soft, even 6500 can be a good challenge.

To this point, the world has had a few different handicapping systems. Among the major ones, we had the USGA handicapping systems, with course ratings, slope, the 0.96 multiplier, best 10-of-20 system, etc. We had the CONGU system, which had the SSS (standard scratch score). Australia, AFAIK, was closer to CONGU but has spent the past several years quasi-converting to the USGA type standard. Well, scheduled for 2018, the world will see a unified handicapping system. The system is a blend of the two main handicapping systems, in that: Courses will have a scratch and bogey rating (i.e. course rating and slope). Courses will also track scores daily and adjust the scratch rating similar to how the SSS is done. For the latter, I think the slope remains the same, so even if no scratch players play on the given day, they'll be able to determine the "daily rating" for the course. This means that on days when the pins are tucked (say, a tournament) and the greens are super fast, everyone's higher-than-usual scores may not raise their handicaps as much as they have in the past. It also means that on days when the wind is howling, an 80 might get the same "differential" as a 76 on calm, warm days. I don't know too many of the details, just the broad strokes (no pun intended). The system seems to favor the USGA's current system, but I don't know if the 0.96 multiplier survives, if the 10-out-of-20 survives, etc. I am excited about the change, as I think it's been unusual to have two different systems (or more) in play for a number of years now. As a course rater I think the USGA's rating/slope system has a good amount of merit. It's not perfect of course for everyone, because not everyone plays the game exactly the same way, but it does a great job IMO of pretty fairly rating courses that are potentially fairly different. I'm starting this thread today so that we can point links, share ideas, thoughts, express opinions, etc. as more information about this change begins to come to light and eventually take hold.

I've been meaning to write this for awhile, and since the World Handicap System (WHS) is coming to most of the world this year, now's as good a time as any. This article will assume that you're semi-familiar with the the concepts of course rating and slope, and really seeks to expel some basic myths and misconceptions. Course Ratings Are the Primary Determinant of "Difficulty" As you should know, when a golf course is rated (for "difficulty"), many, many, many numbers are generated for each hole. Most of these numbers are pretty objective: the width of the fairway, the length of the hole, elevation changes, the diameter of the green, the depth and size of green side bunkers, etc. A few are subjective, like "how difficult is it to escape if you hit your ball into those trees"? Two numbers come out of this calculation: a scratch rating and a bogey rating. The scratch rating is defined as the score a scratch golfer should shoot on rounds where he plays to his handicap index (of 0.0). The bogey rating is the same for a "bogey golfer," (who, oddly, isn't an 18.0 index, but closer to a 20.0, as they're about a 20 course handicap on a 113-slope course). So, we have two numbers: the score for a scratch golfer and the score for a bogey golfer. Some basic linear algebra and geometry are used as such: Two points define a line. We plot those two points on a graph, and draw a line connecting them. This line has a "slope" that tells us the "slope rating" of that set of tees. Remember y = mx + b? In this case, y is the course handicap, m is the slope (slope rating/113), x is the handicap index, and b is the course rating. And that's just what we see in a graph: This is a set of tees with a rating of 72.0 (note that I consider all tees to be par 72 for the simplicity's sake in this article) and a slope of 113. y = mx + b CH = 113/113 * (HI) + 0 CH = 1 * HI CH = HI This should make sense: on a 72.0 (par 72) course with a slope of 113, we have a basic line with a slope of 1. These golfers should shoot, on average for the eight rounds that count toward their handicap index, these scores: HI Score To Par 0.0 72 0 3.0 75 +3 15.0 87 +15 +2.0 70 -2 We could keep the same slope and make the course rating 69.0, and the course would instantly be three shots easier for every golfer. And this leads into what seems to be the biggest misconception. Too many people look at one number - the slope - and use that to determine what the "difficulty" of the course is. But that fails, because lines are defined by more than their slope: the y-intercept matters. Imagine a course with a rating of "100.0" and a slope of "102." Nobody in their right minds would say that course is "easier" than a 72.0/144-rated course. Here's a chart of four fictitious golf courses: The graph of the course handicaps (note that rounding creates some "bumps" in the lines when the slope is not the whole number 1 (113/113): Showing the trend lines much more heavily: What these graphs show you is that course "difficulty" is a function of both the "m" and the "b" - the course rating AND the slope. Look at the 74.0/118 course (grey) and the 72.0/136 course (green). Despite a difference of 18 in their slope, for the majority of these golfers, the 74.0/118 course plays "more difficult" due to the higher starting point of 74.0. It's not until you get out to about a 14.0 index that you start to see the expected scores for the 72.0/136 course take over due to the slope. Look at all of the lines, in fact: the yellow line (69.0/140) remains lower for most of the graph than even the two 72.0 courses (blue 113, green 136), and well below the grey course (74.0/118). But this is because the course rating varies by 3 and 5 (69 to 72 and 74), while the slope can only make up fractions of a stroke (140/113 =~ 1.24 course handicap strokes per 1.0 strokes handicap index). So, the course rating is the primary determinant of a course's difficulty. The slope tends to matter in only two situations: The difference in handicap indexes is LARGE. The course ratings are quite close together. The first matters because the slope has more time to keep adding "tenths of a shot" to the course handicap. The second matters because it's easier to overcome a deficit of 0.2 or 0.3 than a deficit of 2.4 or 3.1. But What about + Handicaps? Next look at the 72.0/113 course in blue. This course crosses the 72.0/136 (green) course at 0.0, and for everyone with a handicap on the opposite side from + handicaps, the green course is "more difficult" than the blue course. But on the left side of scratch, the green course is "easier" than the blue course? Why is that? Because the slope is the relative difference in difficulty between a good player and a worse player. The "0.0" seems to throw people off, but the fact that we have + handicaps tells you that's not the absolute lowest anyone can go. Think of it this way: if a 13.0 gets 6 shots from an 8.0 due to the slope, then a +5.0 should give up six shots to a 0.0 too (there are occasionally rounding things that change this a little, on either side). The slope is the same, and so a change in "x" (the handicap index) should result in the same difference in course handicap (the y axis) because the slope of the line is constant. Another way to think of it: add the course's par to the course handicap. If we called scratch golfers "72.0 golfers" on a 72.0-rated course, then you can see how a "67.0-rated golfer" should give up 5 shots to a "72.0 golfer" on a 72.0/113 course, and six shots to a 72.0/140 course. 67.0 * 140/113 = 83 72.0 * 140/113 = 89 Right? The same math, essentially: -5.0 * 140/113 = -6 0.0 * 140/113 = 0 Make sense? Good. The final thing… Stroke Indexes and "Hole Difficulty" I'll try to keep this one short: the "stroke index" (handicap index) of the hole is NOT the "difficulty" of the hole. It's a measure of where the higher handicapper is most likely to need a stroke against a lower handicapper. Why are (or were, see the note below) par fives often the lower stroke index holes? Because: Better players tend to birdie or par them. Worse players tend to bogey them. The increased distance gives a better player more chances to recover and more of an opportunity to show off their length. Consider the example of a one-foot putt versus a 50-foot putt: both the high and low handicapper are just going to tap in all the time on the one-footer, but the low handicap player is going to win a match of 50-foot putts against the worse player much more often. To good players, par threes — often the high stroke index holes — are the "more difficult" holes relative to par. That's why they're traditionally the higher stroke index holes - the high handicapper isn't as likely to need a stroke against the better player. Note: This stuff used to be calculated by courses literally turning in about 400 scorecards, which would all be entered hole-by-hole, and computed to determine which holes had the largest gaps between "better players" and "worse players." The holes would be ranked, the data massaged so that the first six holes didn't give out the strokes 1 to 5, and away we'd go. The USGA and R&A have learned, however, that the actual location of strokes doesn't really matter all that much, so long as they're not clustered (like the example of stroke index holes 1-5 in the first six holes of the course). So, to make things simpler, they've come up with the idea of "triads" and are assigning stroke indexes via that method. You can read more about that method here: https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/handicapping/roh/Content/rules/Appendix E Stroke Index Allocation.htm. In essence, it maintains the idea of the relative difficulty* while making things much simpler and not requiring all the "massaging" that was done before, and adequately spreads out the low- and high-stroke-index holes so that matches are not decided in the first six holes or before the last six holes are reached. * To quasi-make up some numbers, a par 3 is likely to be 3.3 versus 3.5, for a total of 0.8 above par, while a par five is likely to be 4.9 versus 6.3, for a total of 1.2 above par.

Hi I am currently looking at purchasing a range finder in the UK. I am just deciding if it is really necessary to get one with slope or not? Does slope really affect distance that much? There is a par 3 at my home course that is 167 with a relatively high elevated tee. Ive no idea exactly how high but I would say its probably 80 to 100 feet up. I would normally hit a 6 iron to 170 but here its only 1 club less for me, a 7 iron. There's only a few extreme circumstances like this on my course the others are uphill which I would struggle to guess more but I just take an extra club normally and hope to get it somewhere near the middle of the green just. Is the slope even going to be accurate on the range finder as well because I imagine a lot of it is to do with trajectory, so perhaps it could actually hinder club and shot selection? If I have iron shots that are coming down steeper surely it would barely make a difference on downhill shots but more so uphill shots etc? Has anyone here really benefited or been surprised much from there slope mode vs no slope? Thanks I don't play in competitions at the minute but would like to soon, I also don't play other courses at the minute but would like to do a "tour" at some point.

I play a lot of munis (I feel like I'm posting all over this board now so you guys probably already know that :P) but I had someone say something to me in my group that peaked my interest (this was actually a while ago). He was lying in the fairway in some really bad washed out area with a super tight lie but it wasn't marked (so it's technically not GUR). He said to me "well this sucks, I have to play it here since it's Spring, I would just move it if it were still Winter." I know what this course's conditions are like in the winter (I played a good chunk of the winter on this course). The fairways get in pretty horrible shape. Virtually 80% of the landing areas are crap lies, a lot of wash out, pitiful grass, weeds, etc. I just played them as they lay because that's the rules if it's unmarked (right?). Sucked for scoring though. I do understand that for handicap purposes courses have in-season and out-of-season. Living in NC, we fall under the umbrella where all year is in-season for recording rounds for handicap. It's obvious that the conditions in the winter versus the lush Spring are WAY DIFFERENT. Bottom line (my question), are there ANY considerations to slope/handicap Winter vs Spring if the course is in season all year? What would you do? Would you move your ball to an improved lie? I'm sure the courses are rated during the spring, right? Maybe nicer courses have multiple ratings that can be posted in the clubhouse based on time of year and maintenance condition of the course for that day/week/month?