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  1. I'm stealing this from GCA: Are today's PGA Tour players whiny, spoiled babies? I'm not one for beating a dead horse, but as articles like this one continue to trickle out, my only impression is that the modern professional has become so obsessed with a different game than the one played by the masses that anything besides a standard PGA Tour setup is immediately labeled as "unfair." They might as well hold the US Open on Trackman. Otherwise, how will the "best" player be assured of winning?! What I saw on Saturday at Shinnecock was a golf course that was playing very, very hard in windy conditions. What I didn't see was what the media seems to have adopted without real discussion, namely, that good shots were not being rewarded. Did the USGA need to set it up THAT hard to protect par? Probably not and, as other have pointed out, that probably didn't show off the course at its architectural best. However, several of the shots replayed ad nauseum as evidence of an "unfair" setup simply were poor course management. For example, take the frequently replayed clips of #15. Stenson's play was absymal - he hit it in the rough, chased it from the wrong angle into the downslope of a bunker, short-sided, downwind and then everyone cries it's unfair he couldn't hold the green? In the same group, Rose hits the fairway, hits the green from the proper angle, drains a 15' birdie putt. Same could be said for #18 - hitting the ball above the hole was an absolutely no-no. It wasn't as if the players didn't know that. Those are execution errors: poor course management leading to extremely difficult recovery shots. The average player seems to accept that one poor shot can lead to a position from which an excellent recovery is nearly impossible. Pros seem to view every shot as if it requires them to be able to hit it stiff. If not - UNFAIR! Augusta National seems to be immune from this type of whining out of fear of offending the club, but imagine if a US Open featured a hole like 15 where players were spinning wedges back into the water (as Sergio did 5x) or where it was easy to chip into a pond. The same could be said for shots at 11, 12 or unstoppable chips on 16. The difference? At Augusta, the "patrons gasp" but, as anyone who listened to the broadcast can attest, at the US Open bad shots can evoke laughter. For what it's worth, the fans certainly weren't turned off by the course setup as the TV ratings were the second-best third round of the U.S. Open since 2013 (3.7, 5.4M). Deep down, this generation of pros thinks they're so good that they aren't willing to submit to a difficult test. The snowflakes hate being laughed at... Back to me now… I'm not saying (nor is the OP, I don't think) that PGA Tour players don't work hard. But I think he makes a valid point above. Also, note how often the PGA Tour will play lift, clean, and place instead of playing the ball down. Yes, they're there for entertainment, not to grind out a 74… but sometimes dealing with the conditions is entertaining, too. P.S. I haven't voted yet.
  2. For the discussion of Tiger's 15th major victory! </sarcasm>
  3. Had a discussion with some golfing friends yesterday about course set ups for tournaments. Long story short. If all tournaments in the PGA were set up like this year's USO was, (maybe a little less tough) would the top 10/20 OWGRs have the same names listed with the way today's tournaments are set up? In other words, would today's top players still be the top players if they had to play on much tougher courses all the time. A lot of big name players were beat up pretty bad in this year's USO. Why were they not able to adapt to the tougher conditions?
  4. My shoulder isn't 100% and it's going to rain, but f*** it I'm going golfing tomorrow.

    1. nevets88

      nevets88

      Go for it!

  5. Utah_Golf

    2017 U.S. Open Discussion Topic

    Thoughts on this article http://suindependent.com/us-open-erin-hills/ and the open in general?
  6. Predict the Winner of the 2016 U.S. Open with The Sand Trap and Sun Mountain! WHO do you think will WIN the U.S. Open in 2016 at Oakmont and what SCORE will they shoot? PLEASE READ the rules thoroughly. Each contest people are disqualified for simple mistakes. To enter, post your answer right here in this thread along with the bold text "I am Staying Ahead of the Game with Sun Mountain!" Note that you are NOT predicting who will finish 1st, 2nd, and 3rd; you are picking three players to win and the score(s) they will shoot. The first choice carries tremendous weight (see the rules below for more), while the second and third choices exist simply in case we don't have a winner selected by anyone's first selection. The Prizes First Place One first-place winner will win a Sun Mountain Reflex golf push cart and a Sync golf bag (the color of which is up to you!): https://shop.sunmountain.com/best-product-reflex.html https://shop.sunmountain.com/sync-bag-18750-detail.html Reflex golf push carts from Sun Mountain fold and open easier, have a smaller folded footprint and weigh less than other golf carts. With a new, innovative folding process, Reflex is arguably the easiest cart on the market to fold and unfold. And, the Sync golf bag has a bottom molded specifically to sync with Sun Mountain carts. Second Place The second-place winner will win one of either a Three 5 golf carry bag or C-130 golf cart bag https://shop.sunmountain.com/best-product-c130.html https://shop.sunmountain.com/2015-superlite-3-5-17919-detail.html The Rules - All qualifying entries must be received no later than Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at Midnight eastern time zone (New York City). - Winners will be notified within 24 hours of the completion of The 2016 U.S. Open and will have 48 hours to claim their prize. - You must have a shipping address within the 50 United States of America or Canada. - You must be a registered member of The Sand Trap in good standing. - You must be aged eighteen (18) or older as of the date of entry. - Your answer must include the visible and bold text "I am Staying Ahead of the Game with Sun Mountain!", the FULL NAME (first and last, for the purposes of proper and unique identification) and the score in relation to par (+2, -4, E, etc.) of the player you are predicting to win the 2016 U.S. Open, as well as your 2nd and 3rd choices (same rules apply - full name, score in relation to par). - The Winner will be selected as the first person in the contest to correctly pick both the winner and the score. The runner up will be the second person to correctly pick the winner and score or be the first person to pick closest to the winner/score. - One entry per person and per household. Any additional entries or modifications invalidate all entries. - If we suspect fraud of any kind - suspicious multiple entries, for example - we reserve the right to award the prize to the next valid entry in the order established above. Details regarding the green, underlined rule: - It's very simple. The winner is the first person (who satisfies the other rules) to choose the correct winner and score with their first choice. If nobody picks the correct score, the winner is the first person to have the closest score for the correct winner. If nobody chooses the correct winner with their first choice, we repeat the process for everyone's second choice, and then the third. - In other words, if someone chooses Joe Smith for their first choice - at any score - and you choose him for your second choice, you've wasted your second choice. - Think of your picks like draft picks. Your second and third choices should be someone you don't think will be chosen in the first "round." Winners will have 48 hours to claim their prize after being notified.. Again, please read the details about how to go about entering the contest and picking players. Don't pick top ten players for your 2nd and 3rd picks. Example for this contest would look like this: I am Staying Ahead of the Game with Sun Mountain! 1) Old Tom Morris -3 2) Francis Ouimet +2 3) Gene Sarazen -5
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