greenadam21

Hey guys i really need some help... I'm struggling with something recently that I have never really had trouble with before. I made some swing changes that upped my ball speed with my driver from 154 to 161 plus on trackman. This swing i am producing an average of 3.8 degrees upward attack...neutral face angle to a very slight draw with in an in to out .5 to 1 degree club path. Dynamic loft is 14.5 degrees Driver spec is 8.5 degree static loft driver with a 2.5 degree open face at address I am using a 75 gram Martrix black tie shaft that is fairly low torque ...3.2 or 3.3 i think. Stiff shaft and a Razr fit extreme head set at 8.5 degrees and 1 degree open. I strike the ball just above center and very slightly toward the toe almost every time ... I am fitting at an Edwin watts here on a track man and using their callaway hex chrome balls for the fitting. Checked my numbers on both of thier units and found identical results. and my buddy was hitting with me with the same driver and his numbers were very similar but with much lower spin. So the trackman units are probably fine. I went from 2400 -2500 spin and poor contact to this new setup and everything seems to be in line....except now my spin rates on every clubi have is spinning up driver is now averaging 3600 rpm if my dynamic loft is 14.5 and AOA is 3 then my spin loft is 11.5 which should be perfect. So one question i have is that since my spin loft is fine making adjustments to the shaft wont help...correct?...Alll i can do is hit more up at the ball switch driver heads and balls ...right? I don't know and am pretty frustrated right now. Gained all the speed but no distance in the end. I would really appreciate some knowledgeable advice on what might be happening in this swing. thanks Adam exhibit A.

I've been Playing Golf for: 5yrs My current handicap index or average score is: My typical ball flight is: recent switch to draw The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: fat Hey guys been working on the swing a lot over the past few months. believe it or not i could score ok with the old swing on the right but it was inconsistent at best...always been saved by approach and short game. my miss was a cut or slice...now its the other way a round and I much prefer it. New swing allows me to hit consistent draw shots with better distance and control. I just want to make sure i'm not grooving in another issue somewhere. The new swing is on the left...the forward press is deceiving because i'm hitting in deep grass so i set the club up a few inches behind the balls sized disc i am swinging at. Anyway I think it looks better but i had a guy say i had too much spine tilt...I'm not sure he knows what he is talking about so i thought id get some more opinions on the matter. thanks for the time Adam

Hey everyone I'm having some trouble with my right toe(I"m a right handed golfer) and am having a good amount of pain after a long range session and or a round of golf. I've been told that the pointed toes of my golf shoes in conjuction with repetitive pressure on the right toe are causing the issue. I have had some noticeable swelling at the base toe joint and I have been told that if ignored that i could end up with bunions ect. My shoes need to be wider and with a more Box toe shape than the traditional pointed toe dress shoe look. I dont have much to choose from locally so i was wondering if you might be able to point me in the right direction. Looking online i see that the street shoe versions that come in wide or EE sizes Oakleys ripcord golf shoes Footjoy casual contour I also would like to hear from anyone who has had the same issue and how you resolved it ...custom insoles, orthotics,,,,,amputations whatever. Thanks for the responses Adam

Well that's good to hear. I just had it cut down and inch and will pick it up this afternoon. Will probably take a few swings on their track man to see what i can see.

Hey everyone been reading a lot lately about driver length and a sort of threshold between gaining distance and controlling the club I would like to have a slightly more inside out path and was thinking considering my height that It might be a good move. My six iron carries 185-190 which isn't the longest but I'm not afraid to loose a little on the driver distance wise if i can gain some control. I've also read a few horror stories where golfers have cut down the shaft and it never felt right again. Being the the Ahina is a slightly stiffer shaft for its "rating" I just want to know if anyone out there has done it and how did i work out for you. thanks Adam

new numbers today...and i rechecked the swing speed on the track man...cant spend a lot of time on thier unit but 5 swings all were in 89-92 mph range

Also i agree these are incredibly smooth shafts and I am also heavy shaft player..Tries lighter like the PX but I cant stand that feel.

All very well put.

Lucous Looking over the trackman data. Which does measure the club i definetly see what you are getting at. 92mph club getting them 127 ball speed my supposed 84 mph club is getting me 123 ball speed My real club head speed is more like 89 or so...again the foresight measures the ball only. And all other numbers match. thanks again for the response. Adam

Lucious thanks for the post. It seems you know quite a bit on the subject..I probably should have given more information. In response i'm currently playing KBS tour x flex with Mizuno mp 59 heads in standard lofts. These are pretty weak lofts by today's standards I am told and considered a "players" iron/mbblade that aren't considered "hot" by any means. I don't blame you for making that assumption I would think the same. Theses numbers come from a foresight system. It takes ball measurements only and "guestimates" clubhead speed. When on a trackman, which does measure those aspects, i have a higher swing speed generally. All the other numbers match up to the trackman very well. I'm currently playing a Ping Anser Diamana Ahina in S flex driver avg swing speed 105-110 My dispersion was kept low by taking these half to 3/4 feeling swings When using my current kbs tours x flex i spin the ball quite a lot. 6400 + or - on a relatively delofted shot...and more if I hit it square to open with high launch and I loose a lot of distance. I've never hit mid irons with such low spin as I saw in the images you see. Took some adjusting to get back to a square face that wasn't delofted to kill the spin. Once i did I was seeing decent angles from 42-44 and higher, which are lower than my current irons and probably averaging around 5000 rpms...I was just hoping someone with similar number or knowledge of ball behavior with those two figures might have some insight as to what i would find when that hits a green. I notice that the trackman stats actually match the lpga avg for five iron HA! Just with 20 yds more carry. Maybe i'm in the wrong forum.

Ha! thanks...but those monitors shrink down the field pretty well so the shots all look pretty good ...there are a couple in there that are a full 10 yds offline + or - I was hitting them straight...just worried if they are every gonna stop rolling.

I've been Playing Golf for: 4 My current handicap index or average score is:-3 My typical ball flight is: low Hey everyone. I'm looking at switching down to a stiff in ctapers. My current numbers are good as far as spin and launch but my dispersion is pretty large. I have x shafts in my kbs tours. But i want to shrink my misses and dispersion. The numbers below are a session today trying stiff Ctapers in a 6 iron with nice smooth "half feeling" swing. I had very nice dispersion notice the small white cirlce on the last pic....and this includes my outliers. My concern is how low the spin is. I'd love to hear what your thoughts are on spin numbers vs decent angle...anyone else experience these numbers...will these shots one hop stop??? Release out ...please let me know best Adam The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: push slice Videos:

Yes ..of course i spin the heck out of a 10.5...I hit a 9.5 with the diamans ahina shaft when i chose this club, which also has the ahina, and it had a 14- 16 degree launch. i guess my first step would be to just to tee up a bit and swing up a bit more. Good to know on the balls. I play the nike one tour a occasionally myself. They test at almost the same spin rate as the prov1 so thats good to know. Your numbers are "similar" to what i was getting before i went down to the 8.5 degree...a lot more carry, less roll out, and it got up there really high with the loft and even more because of the increased backspin and it was heavily affected by the kansas wind which i hate btw. thanks again for your time, Hittem straight! Adam

Thanks for the reply. I guess I've heard mixed information on how high the launch should be but there is some controversy on carry vs roll so what do I expect. For you questions. I have an 8.5 ping ans er turned up to a 9 degree loft. I agree with you on the roll out and I wasn't aware you could adjust that on the system. I bet they have it on fast so everyone thinks they are doing better than they ever will here in Kansas. We have zoysia fairways mostly and they don't give u a ton of roll as you may well know. I suppose i could also open the face a bit,,,as you can see i favored a draw bordering on a hook it this trial today. Have you ever switched balls when using your friend's system,,if so how much difference did it make if any that was appreciable? The guy at golfsmith said these things are very accurate ...has that been your experience going from the LM to the course? thanks Adam

Yes i think i was a bit. I just got back from a range session on the foresight. I think my main issue stemmed from poor takeaway. Started rotating my hips less to get more torque and keep myself on plane and it seemed to work. Kept thing more compact and powerfull....Once i got warmed up anyway ;) Now I just have to get the hang of it i think to bring the dispersion down.