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And here it is boys.. I get the threat!! I am sure this won't be up to long. So long

Like your friend, you need to reread, he never asked what the proper RULING WAS, he just asked WHAT WE ALL DO.. You do certain things one way, I do them another, Breaking rules, OK!!! FINE, GET OVER IT NOW..

First off, who are you to say what can and can't be posted? I'll leave this forum if this is how its going to be, I never once said it WAS LEGAL, I said, quote, THIS IS NOT LEGAL!!! And once again not everyone wants to be so anal with following EVERY SINGLE RULE, that doesn't mean they cannot play golf, or even brag about their score. What I posted again is not going to increase his chance of making his putt. Edit** By the way, I don't drink and play about 3x a week, and follow the rules of golf, atleast for the most part. Playing by myself, being lazy, not pulling the pin, well that right there is a rule I am breaking. OMG!!! He's not a real golfer!!!!

I got an invite to an elite course down here and from what I was told was caddies walk your bags around.. I never in my life played a round of golf with a caddie. I was thinking 20 bucks, but then realized, its going to be atleast a 3 1/2 hour game, so now I am stuck at 60.00 or 100.00 bucks.. Or is 100.00 still to low? I am guessing they don't really get paid from the Course, so they probably only get 2 rounds a day, so maybe now that I think about it, 150.00 should be a min. huh?

I must be honest with you here, what started off with a little friendly argument actually turned into a little bit of an "insult I win" Attitude Please, enough with the "Its not golf" because people don't want to sit and follow every single rule.. Half the "GOLFERS!!!!" don't even know HALF OF THE DARN RULES!!!! Enough!! I applaud that you like to follow everything in your little book, as believe it or not I do too.. Except little things, like playing a scramble by myself and leaving the flag in, just because I am to lazy, not to help me putt better. Understand, there are other people in this world that don't need nor want to follow every rule golf has decided to come up with, and that doesn't mean they're not golfers..

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Well.. Please go back and re-read this thread, I never said "I CHEAT" I actually even said I don't like it when others do.. But there are some things you just have to let slide.. Not everyone wants to be on the tour. For god sake, they're are more people who like to play "casually" than have to worry about every little rule. They make more devices these days that are illegal then ever before I say let the people that wants use them, use them. Anti-slice tee's, Weird clubs,sand paper clubs, laser devices, the list goes on. I am just saying as I did at first, if this guy wants to do what I suggest, let him, don't sit there and tell him he is a bad person or not really "playing golf" Ok, I gotta run, I'm going to cheat on the course now..

LOL I am glad you took 10 or so minutes to reply to everything I wrote.. Thumbs up to you big guy.. You're right, 90% of us people on the golf course, we're not really playing golf, we're just hitting a metal piece of equipment at a plastic white looking ball.. I would bet that on any given day anyone who goes to put their ball back on their marker and it rolls down, that they go ahead and pick it back up and PUT IT BACK BY THE MARKER.. If you say that by me doing that, is so horrible that "I'm not playing golf" than so be it, I gave the guy ONCE AGAIN!!!!!! A tip so the ball doesn't roll away, I told him it WAS ILLEGAL, if he decides to to do it, then that's his choice. Seriously, I am getting a headache now. you win!!

I had my baby for a while, it was an E46 M3, I loved this car, but since the new one is coming I decided to get rid of it while I still could. And I was super anal at keeping it clean If anyone wants tips I am a master detailer :) lol Then we go to my pride and joy :) I have an 88 fox body race car mustang, almost 700 HP But I drive an 03 Golf TDI Diesel, 50mpg for my daily driver

I have a "decent" one right now, Its got allot of pockets and its a medium size bag. I do like it, but what I hate about it, is where the clubs go in, I love the separated holes but its only on the top, there are no tubes that go all the way to the bottom so they always tangle up. One of the guys in my group has a club locking bag, when you press the club down it kinda locks in. He says after about a year the bottom of the grips get worn out, but you should replace your grips once a year anyway, so I don't think that would be a problem. That being said I am open to all idea's. Any new hot bags out right now? Like the burner of bags? I never walk a course and if I do, I put my bag on a pull cart, so I don't want or need any type of walking bag. Thanks guys!!

Again, I said in my first post it was illegal, you say in the long run its going to hurt you, how so? Are we going to be in the PGA? And who's to say I am not into golf as much as the next guy? Shoot, I play atleast 3x a week, I hold a club in my hand pretty much every single day. I love the sport and hope one day I can shoot low 70's every time. It wasn't poor advice because if he chooses to use it and it works for him and makes him feel good about it, then it was good advice. He if chooses to do it, I already told him it was not legal. But again, we are talking about putting his ball back down after marking it and it rolled away. Here is a serious question I have for you. What about if it rolls closer to the hole? And who's to say when the guy puts his ball back down he didn't secretly put a little forward spin on it.

Look, maybe I am a "noob" but I carry around my little rule book just like you guys probably do, I understand the rules, I also play with 2 other guys in my group that are scratch golfers, I DO NOT PLAY GIMMIE'S, but people do, you know there is a local rule called winter rules, obviously there are no winter rules down here in FL, but I couldn't count the amount of times our courses down here are pretty much flooded, you go right into the middle of the fairway and you're sitting in the biggest mud pile, by what the rule book says unless its locally said "winter rules in effect" you have to play it where it lies, does this mean I should be "that jerk" and tell my group they cannot move it??? Even though we play for money there are still some things you have to let slide, rules or not. As for the original poster, he asked what he could do about a ball sliding back down the green and that's not from his bad hit or really something that has to do with the mechanics of golf, its just a rule, a rule that people in tournaments and the PGA players need to follow. I am all for following the rules, I never pick my ball out of my mud pile ( no it was not plugged ) But not everyone on this site wants to be a PGA player, if the original poster has a 2 foot putt to make his birdie, he puts his ball down the "wrong" way and it now goes and rolls to 7 feet from the hole, I don't blame him for going back and putting his ball back to the original spot. Some rules in golf are crazy, and making what could be a great round turn into a horrible round because you didn't feel like pulling the pin on every hole in my opinion is a rule that us non pro's don't need to be so anal about it. To be honest with you Iacas I like the way you play, in terms of following the rules, but I have played with many many people and most are not so anal about grabbing their book and following every bold print. I played with a 2 some last week who were going head to head with each other, they were extremely competitive, so much they wanted us to join their little bet, they were giving themselves 2 foot gimmie's, not calling out of bounds when it really was ( though it was close ) Hitting out of bounds and dropping up there instead of rehitting off the tee. Who am I to tell them they are doing it wrong? Listen, I don't think any of us need to argue about this, yes what I said is illegal, but again there are allot of rules in golf and not everyone wants to follow every single rule, again some things are stupid to break and others are ok.

Anyone use them before?? It seems like a nice concept, it says I need to wait until 6pm tonight ( 5:30 now ) to see tomorrows tee times.. The pricing seems much cheaper than if I went to directly to the course. Comments?? reviews?? Thanks guys.

Actually I had a good amount of lessons, but never with my driver, For some reason I told him my driving was fine, which it was.. My pro changed my grip around a little and then got me to drop my right arm down at address. Enough so he could stick a club through my arms, this is what helped me allot.. But the final tip was to extend my arms out when to go to hit the ball, during impact, which is what is giving me some pretty good distance.

Dude.. You seriously HAVE TO BE KIDDING RIGHT NOW!!! No one is sitting here saying to do this in a tournament, I highly doubt he is on the PGA TOUR, like most of us here we play with friends. I actually play very competitive, the group I play with always plays for money to keep us all on our toes and also so no one "CHEATS" How many people play "Gimmies" Its got to be the number 1 broken rule. What I told him is not going to in anyway make his putt from that distance any better. When playing with friends if that happened to someone in my group, we would allow him to put it back on the marker, you make as if I told him to tee his second and third shot up, out in the fairway. I shot one of the best games today, I played with one friend and we were the only one on the course, we took the flag out maybe 4 times, the rest of the time we left it in, none of my putts made it because of the flag being in and stopping the ball, but obviously the ball hit the pole every time.. Should I of counted the penalty?? Yea, if I was playing a tournament and even then, golf is a game of honor, I highly doubt ANYONE would count that as a penalty, I never played a tournament that had officials on every hole. That being said, he asked a question, I answered it, is it illegal, yes, if he chooses not to do it because of a GOLF RULE then so be it, I follow almost every rule in golf.