DavidC

I am presently playing a 2007 set of Cleveland CG4 Tour Irons.I reshafted the clubs awhile back removing the Action Lite Tour stiff shafts that came in them and replaced them with True Temper TT Lite XL shafts which I cut to a supposedly senior flex according to the trimming instructions.It took me a while to get used to the clubs but I did fine with them.The problem I now have (which was also present with the previous shafts) is that I am still hitting the irons too low.I knew they were both mid-kick point shafts before reshafting.I did a gain better feel and also some of my distance back.I am now looking at either reshafting with a low kickpoint shaft such as the Dynalite Gold XP or one of the low kickpoint FST shafts.I am also considering just getting a new set of irons.I was previously looking at the Cleveland CG16s or CG16 Tours.However those come with a a mid-kick point shaft as well.I was in a store the other day and noticed a set of Mizuno JXP 800s which come with the Dynalite Gold XP shaft already installed. Has technology in golf equipment advanced that much in the last 5 years that it would be more worthwhile for me to get a new set of irons as opposed to reshafting the present CG4 Tour irons with a low kickpoint shaft to gain a higher trajectory? My driver swingspeed is around 90 to 93.I usually hit my 7 iron 145 to 150 yards (33.5 to 34 degrees loft).

There is one out called the "I Gotcha" ball retriever.It closes down to about 20 inches or so in length and the telescoping length varies depending on which particular one you buy.Kind of expensive but you would soon recoup the cost from balls you find around ponds,lakes,etc.I think they run $25 to $30 or so.

I now play the Cleveland CG4 Tours and have been seriously looking at the CG 16s or CG 16 Tours.My last two sets of irons have been custom fitted so I hesitate to buy off the rack because I need additional length shafts.I was fitted earlier in 2012 for a set of CG Blacks at a Demo Day but I was very hesitant to drop the $800 or so dollars for a set of 7 clubs and then also have to buy additional wedges.I am still looking around and also looking at the Mizuno JPX 800 but I have never hit the Mizunos. Cleveland has been my favorite clubs the last few years but I will not buy until I can hit the clubs I am interested in.Being a lefty it is hard to find demo clubs in stock and available to hit unless you run up on a demo day somewhere. Thanks for your comments on the CG 16s as that is one of the sets I am interested in.

I second Kohls and the Grand Slam shirts.I try to pay attention and get them when they have some sort of deal going at the store.

Does anyone know how much of the iron shaft goes into hosel of the CG4 Tour irons? Is the depth of hosel the same throughout the set? Thanks.

I am adding a little more information that I have found in hopes of getting some advice on a new shaft recommendation.I have found out the shaft presently in my clubs is very similar to the TT Lite XL.It is a mid-flex iron.Presently they feel somewhat stiff to me in the 5 6 and 7 irons and I would like to have higher ball flight in these irons.The first post has lot of additional info. in it if anyone would like more info. before making a recommendation.I am thinking that TT Dynalite Gold or something similar might work.Anyone else got any ideas? My present clubs are +1/2 inch in length and one degree upright in a stiff shaft.

I am a lefty presently playing Cleveland CG4 Tour irons.I bought these new in 2007 from what I can remember.I am presently playing an iron set made up of the following irons.5,6,7,8,9,pw,gap,sand,and lob wedges.The clubs were ordered +1/2 inch long and 1 degree upright lie.I still like the clubs but lately it feels like hitting with a broom handle sometimes.Especially the 5-7 irons.The others dont matter so much and I am able to get high enough ball flight for the most part.The irons have Stiff stock Cleveland Action Lite Tour shafts in them.Does anyone know the particulars on this shaft? I know it is a proprietary shaft made for Cleveland by True Temper but I have no idea how it ranks to other steel iron shafts or the DSFI, swing speed numbers,kickpoint,torque,etc that go with this particlular shaft.I am thinking I need to drop down and get a more flexible shaft.I typically hit the lob wedge (58 degree) about 87 yards.Sand edge (54 degree) 94 yard.Gap wedge (50 degree) about 100 to 105.PW (46 degree) about 110 to 120 yards.9 iron (42 deg) about 125 to 130).8 iron (38 degree) about 135 to 140.7 iron (34 degree) 145 to 150.6 iron (30.5 degree) 150 to 155.5 iron.5 iron (27 degree) around 155 yards to 165 yards.I am referring to carry distances not including roll.The lower number irons (5-7) many times feel harsh in my hands with little feedback of the shaft flexing.I am also hitting the ball lower than I think it should be.I think I need a shaft that will feel a little less harsh in my hands when hitting and also want a little higher ball flight in the 5-7 irons.If I had the numbers that correspond with these particular shafts it would make it much easier to select a new shaft for these irons.I have actually thought about purchasing a new set of the Cleveland CG16 Tour irons with the Traction 85 stock shaft in them.I recently hit some of the Cleveland CG Black Titianium irons with a titianium head and Nippon 850 steel shafts in them.I liked them but they are very expensive to buy.They recommended that I get +1/4 in length as well as 2 degree upright lie for those particular clubs. I will soon be 53 years old and I am 5 ft. 10 in tall and weigh around 177 at this time. Anyone got new shaft recommendations?